the driving age should be raised to the age of 18

[Hielly]

hey,
Anyone have any opinion on this issue?

[clinton_09]

do you mean learners?

[Hielly]

yep learners when they start to learn how to drive.

[Eriny]

The road toll is the highest in Victoria, but we have the highest driving age. I'm not sure if it will really help anything.

Also, it would be a huge inconvenience to not be able to drive on a full license by the time you are an adult.

[hard]

mmm no.

[costargh]

The passenger restrictions are an arse already so no thanks.

Having passengers ducking down in the back seats is annoying (for them at least haha)

[Matt The Rat]

The passenger restrictions are an arse already so no thanks.

Having passengers ducking down in the back seats is annoying (for them at least haha)

And a kick in the pants if/when you get caught and cop the demerit points and fine.

[costargh]

I live dangerously....
nah i've only really had more than one passenger on one or two occasions.

and that was because they were both intoxicated and it was safer for me 2 drive them home.

[iamdan08]

I live dangerously....
nah i've only really had more than one passenger on one or two occasions.

and that was because they were both intoxicated and it was safer for me 2 drive them home.

Apparently in extreme cases such as those, the police waver the passenger restrictions, since it would have been more dangerous for you not to drive them. You could argue that if you didn't drive them, they would have to drive intoxicated or leave them to find their own way home under the influence.

[Glockmeister]

I live dangerously....
nah i've only really had more than one passenger on one or two occasions.

and that was because they were both intoxicated and it was safer for me 2 drive them home.

Apparently in extreme cases such as those, the police waver the passenger restrictions, since it would have been more dangerous for you not to drive them. You could argue that if you didn't drive them, they would have to drive intoxicated or leave them to find their own way home under the influence.

I think the point of that new law was to avoid situations such as that one. In any case, I don't think that is the case where they would choose to waver that law, since an argument could be made that you could have hired a taxi, called their parents etc... instead. There's a set criteria on when the laws are wavered, the one that I can remember is being work-related or having a full licensed driver on board.

[costargh]

Nah actually iamdan08 is 100% right. I've heard of heaps of people getting wavers when their excuses seem reasonable and they seem to be doing the right thing. One of my mates told me it happened to him twice.
The cops seem to be pretty understanding if you have a good enough reason.

[ReVeL]

Definately not. Nuff said.

[kuya17]

I believe that notion to be insane. At current the new driving laws are ridiculous. They are just the end product of the governments quick fix attitudes. The only reason I have to log 120 hours and do an extra year on P's is because the government is too stupid to realize that its not the experience and amount of hours driving that get people killed, but rather their stupidity and "it wont happen to me" attitude. I feel that the current system is completely worthless, because after logging 120 hours, I personally am most likely still going to rip the occasional drift, even though I fully aware of the risks.

A better solution than increasing the amount of time you have to have a square plate on your car, would be make a compulsory day, in which new drivers get to meet victims of stupidity in cars in person, and have to listen to how it affected them or maybe see the end result of a crash caused by stupidity. Another solution could be run people through a extremely graphical video of car crash scenes, similar to some of America's driving offense programs.

[kurrymuncher]

grrrrrr, i hate the logbook. I've had my license for over a year and have only clocked about 8 hours haha. If I was born 1 or 2 months earlier then I wouldnt have to fill in that stupid thing.

[kuya17]

I was stupid, I was like, the log book wont be that bad,  *waits two months to get license* GG. MISTAKE