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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14370 on: January 03, 2017, 08:41:36 pm »
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dom f(x) = [2, infinity)
ran f(x) = (-infinity, a-2] (had to work this one out by graphing the equation)

dom g(x) = (-infinity, 1]
ran g(x) [a, infinity)
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for f(g(x)) to exist ran g \( \subseteq \) dom f => [a, infinity) \( \subseteq \) [2, infinity)
 \( \therefore\) a \(\in \space [ 2, \infty) \)

for g(f(x)) to exist ran f \( \subseteq \) dom g =>  (-infinity, a-2] \( \subseteq \) (-infinity, 1]
\( \therefore\) a-2 \(\in \space ( -\infty, 1] \) => a \(\in \space ( -\infty, 3] \)

Therefore for both g(f(x)) and f(g(x)) to exist a \( \in\) [2,3]

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« Reply #14371 on: January 03, 2017, 09:35:12 pm »
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Hi syndicate, thanks for your explanation. Yes, the way you did it is straightforward and more easier but can you also explain it the way they did it in the solution book please? I know you kinda touched on it a little but I'm still failing to understand the way they did it in the book. Thanks! :)

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« Reply #14372 on: January 04, 2017, 11:39:24 am »
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I had 2 answers when I tried to find f inverse which was -(rootx+1 +1) or positive of that
I just graphed xsquared +2x then to find my ranges and domain

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« Reply #14373 on: January 04, 2017, 11:40:07 am »
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« Reply #14374 on: January 04, 2017, 12:00:37 pm »
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Hi syndicate, thanks for your explanation. Yes, the way you did it is straightforward and more easier but can you also explain it the way they did it in the solution book please? I know you kinda touched on it a little but I'm still failing to understand the way they did it in the book. Thanks! :)

So, the book has basically solved for x using the ratios from the triangles on the top.

Case 1: BC, in this case is the hypotenuse, and AB is the adjacent side from the angle.

AB has a ratio of \( \sqrt{3} \), where as BC has a ratio of 2. So BC: AB  = \( 2: \sqrt{3} \)

Now the book has substituted the actual value of BC and AB into the ratios. BC = 20, and AB = x.
 \( \therefore 20:x  \space = \space 2:\sqrt3 \)
The book didn't show this trick, and converted these ratios into fractions (rational numbers).


y was calculated using this same method.

I had 2 answers when I tried to find f inverse which was -(rootx+1 +1) or positive of that
I just graphed xsquared +2x then to find my ranges and domain


Yes, when you find the inverse of g(x), you do get two answer, however, only one of them is valid.

The question states that the domain of g(x) is \( [-1, \infty) \), which means the range of \( g^{-1} \) is also  \( [-1, \infty) \). Whereas \( y = -1 \space \pm\sqrt{x+1} \) has a range of \( ( - \infty, \infty) \) (it goes from -1 to -infinity and -1 to infinity). Since this function is already restricted, the correct answer is only \( \sqrt{x+1} -1 \), as it has a range of \( [- 1, \infty) \), where as \(- \sqrt{x+1} -1 \) would be considered an extraneous solution, as it has a range of \( (- \infty, -1] \) .
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« Reply #14375 on: January 04, 2017, 12:37:47 pm »
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Thanks so much!

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« Reply #14376 on: January 04, 2017, 02:35:21 pm »
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« Reply #14378 on: January 04, 2017, 02:52:03 pm »
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Do you mind working it on paper so I can understand it better

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« Reply #14379 on: January 04, 2017, 02:54:15 pm »
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Do you mind working it on paper so I can understand it better

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« Reply #14380 on: January 04, 2017, 02:57:03 pm »
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« Reply #14381 on: January 09, 2017, 08:34:24 pm »
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Just like to add a little to the solution. If a + b is indeed zero, any value of x will solve the equation.

That's a pretty nasty equation you're asked to solve :P
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« Reply #14382 on: January 10, 2017, 07:36:52 pm »
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Hey everyone,

I have attached two questions, which I am having a bit of trouble with.

For the first one, I don't understand where the 1/3 out the front comes from. The rest of the rule is fine.

For the second question (where I need to state a sequence of transformations that transforms the graph of the first equation into the graph of the second equation), I don't understand how the answer has been derived. I would appreciate an explanation.

Thanks in advance!  :)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14383 on: January 10, 2017, 08:06:15 pm »
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Hey everyone,

I have attached two questions, which I am having a bit of trouble with.

For the first one, I don't understand where the 1/3 out the front comes from. The rest of the rule is fine.

For the second question (where I need to state a sequence of transformations that transforms the graph of the first equation into the graph of the second equation), I don't understand how the answer has been derived. I would appreciate an explanation.

Thanks in advance!  :)
Remember to do the transformations in the order that is specified.

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« Reply #14384 on: January 10, 2017, 08:48:02 pm »
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Remember to do the transformations in the order that is specified.

Thanks for that. So is that answer equivalent to the bottom one?
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