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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #150 on: April 22, 2016, 02:20:28 pm »
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- make  x/[(x-1)^3(x-2)]  into partial fractions

 why is it   A/(x-1) + (BX+C)/(x-1)^2 + D/(x-2)       instead of AX+B/(x-1)^2 + C/(x-2)



- Is the cover up method commonly used and when does it not work?

- Will 4x-3/[x^3(x+1)]  decompose into A/x+ B/x^2 + C/x^3 + D/(x+1)   and why isnt B linear and C a quadratic
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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #151 on: April 22, 2016, 07:04:48 pm »
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- make  x/[(x-1)^3(x-2)]  into partial fractions

 why is it   A/(x-1) + (BX+C)/(x-1)^2 + D/(x-2)       instead of AX+B/(x-1)^2 + C/(x-2)



- Is the cover up method commonly used and when does it not work?

- Will 4x-3/[x^3(x+1)]  decompose into A/x+ B/x^2 + C/x^3 + D/(x+1)   and why isnt B linear and C a quadratic

Look at your first question again. It is confusing. All I gathered was this:

Which decomposes into


As for Heaviside Cover-up, that only works for linear combinations. The instant you throw in a quadratic (or something higher) into the denominator, it won't work as a neater process.

Question two is rightfully so as the idea is the implementation of powers allows ways to abide by the unnecessarily complicated method of introducing a numerator with linear terms in it. To make it seem a bit more obvious however:

(I will ignore the term with x3 as the process is similar)
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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #152 on: April 23, 2016, 09:33:40 pm »
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1)how to make 1/(x^2+2x-1)   into impartial fractions 
is it not decomposible since the denominator cant be factorised

2) how to make 1/[x(x^2-1)^2] into impartial fraction

so will it be
A/x + B/(x-1) + C/(x-1)^2 + D/(x+1)  + E/(x+1)^2
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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #153 on: April 23, 2016, 10:03:05 pm »
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1)how to make 1/(x^2+2x-1)   into impartial fractions 
is it not decomposible since the denominator cant be factorised

2) how to make 1/[x(x^2-1)^2] into impartial fraction

so will it be
A/x + B/(x-1) + C/(x-1)^2 + D/(x+1)  + E/(x+1)^2





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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #154 on: April 26, 2016, 12:23:12 am »
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how to integrate  this x^3/ (x^2-x-3)   thanks

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #155 on: April 26, 2016, 05:39:11 pm »
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how to integrate  this x^3/ (x^2-x-3)   thanks






First one is done by a u-substitution (or just by inspection), whereas the second is done using completing the square.

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #156 on: April 26, 2016, 07:55:14 pm »
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First one is done by a u-substitution (or just by inspection), whereas the second is done using completing the square.

That was awesome! When I attempted it I had no idea what to do after long division with that 4x - 3 / x2 - x - 3 thing
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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #157 on: April 27, 2016, 09:25:15 pm »
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That was awesome! When I attempted it I had no idea what to do after long division with that 4x - 3 / x2 - x - 3 thing

Oh to just complete the rule of thumb




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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #158 on: April 28, 2016, 12:03:51 am »
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How to make  x^3/ [(x-1)(x^2+2)^2] into impartial fractions:

ans: (8/9-1/9x)/(x^2+2)  + (2/3x-4/3)/(x^2+2)^2  +1/9/(x-1)

doesnt the numerator becomes a constant when
you make something like  1/(x+2)^2 to  A/(x+2) + B/(x+2)^2

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #159 on: April 28, 2016, 06:31:11 am »
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How to make  x^3/ [(x-1)(x^2+2)^2] into impartial fractions:

ans: (8/9-1/9x)/(x^2+2)  + (2/3x-4/3)/(x^2+2)^2  +1/9/(x-1)

doesnt the numerator becomes a constant when
you make something like  1/(x+2)^2 to  A/(x+2) + B/(x+2)^2





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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #160 on: April 28, 2016, 07:32:17 am »
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How to make  x^3/ [(x-1)(x^2+2)^2] into impartial fractions:

ans: (8/9-1/9x)/(x^2+2)  + (2/3x-4/3)/(x^2+2)^2  +1/9/(x-1)

doesnt the numerator becomes a constant when
you make something like  1/(x+2)^2 to  A/(x+2) + B/(x+2)^2

To clarify on Rui's response:

When you need a partial fraction decomposition of something with a fully factorised quadratic term on the bottom, for example:



Then it gets broken down like so:



For an irreducible quadratic factor, the numerator takes the form (Cx + D) ;D

Also remember this technique only works for proper fractions, where the degree of the denominator is larger than the degree of the numerator.

Hope this helps you a tad!  ;D

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #161 on: April 28, 2016, 10:54:54 am »
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I'll also add, on the topic of Partial Fractions, that over half of my lecture on signal transformations this morning was work on Partial fraction decomposition and the Heaviside method. 2nd year university courses teaching very standard 4U content. Another example of why 4 Unit math is an amazing head start for many Math, Science, and Engineering degrees!!  ;D

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #162 on: April 28, 2016, 08:34:32 pm »
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I'll also add, on the topic of Partial Fractions, that over half of my lecture on signal transformations this morning was work on Partial fraction decomposition and the Heaviside method. 2nd year university courses teaching very standard 4U content. Another example of why 4 Unit math is an amazing head start for many Math, Science, and Engineering degrees!!  ;D

You gotta admit though... without Wolfram or something some really messy partial fractions like that above one are tedious :P

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #163 on: April 28, 2016, 11:30:37 pm »
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To clarify on Rui's response:

When you need a partial fraction decomposition of something with a fully factorised quadratic term on the bottom, for example:



Then it gets broken down like so:



For an irreducible quadratic factor, the numerator takes the form (Cx + D) ;D

Also remember this technique only works for proper fractions, where the degree of the denominator is larger than the degree of the numerator.

Hope this helps you a tad!  ;D

so for eg.    1/(x^3+1)^2
the partial fractions will be   (Ax^2+Bx+C)/(x^3+1) +   (Dx^2+Ex+F)/(x^3+1)^2
since the denominator has irreducible cubic factor , the numerator will be quadratic

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #164 on: April 29, 2016, 07:27:09 am »
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so for eg.    1/(x^3+1)^2
the partial fractions will be   (Ax^2+Bx+C)/(x^3+1) +   (Dx^2+Ex+F)/(x^3+1)^2
since the denominator has irreducible cubic factor , the numerator will be quadratic

Bad idea.






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