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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #270 on: June 23, 2016, 01:23:54 pm »
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how do i do part iii)

i got
Part i) h=[(root3)*a]/2
part ii) ZY=xa/b



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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #271 on: June 23, 2016, 01:49:22 pm »
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I'll let Rui correct me if this isn't quite 4 Unit friendly, but this is actually very simple if we know the formula for a sphere in three dimensions (x,y,z):



At the cross section, the height above the xy plane (the z-value)  is h, so we can substitute:



What we notice here is that this is actually the formula for a circle. We've just found the formula for the outer circle of the cross section, with that term on the right being the square of the radius like normal. So:



Let me know if this makes sense! And Rui might come along and give a better method, I'm not sure if 3-dimensional surface equations are what would be the normal approach  ;D
Haha don't even need a z-axis




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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #272 on: June 23, 2016, 02:14:51 pm »
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Haha don't even need a z-axis

Cheers Rui, that's much easier, too much 3-dimensional calculus has spoiled me  ;)

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #273 on: June 23, 2016, 03:45:57 pm »
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Cheers Rui, that's much easier, too much 3-dimensional calculus has spoiled me  ;)

Yeah, for better or worse you don't do any 3-dimensional work in Extension 2 (probably better, the course is hard enough)
 
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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #274 on: June 24, 2016, 12:32:20 pm »
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does this require comparison of areas

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #275 on: June 24, 2016, 01:25:19 pm »
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does this require comparison of areas
Can't see what areas to compare. I would've just attacked it with an analysis of monotonic behaviour.

(Note that this proof is a bit informal. You may have to verify it's suitability with your teacher)




The other side does not look immediately obvious to me, so I will have a closer review of it later
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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #276 on: June 28, 2016, 01:32:30 am »
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questions for harder ex 1
1. For any real x,y,z,u   prove that  (x^2+y^2)(z^2+u^2)>and equal to (xz+yu)^2
2.for any real numbers x,y,z,a,b,c, prove that (x^2+y^2+z^2)(a^2+b^2+c^2)>and equal to (ax+by+cz)^2

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #277 on: June 28, 2016, 09:18:58 am »
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questions for harder ex 1
1. For any real x,y,z,u   prove that  (x^2+y^2)(z^2+u^2)>and equal to (xz+yu)^2
2.for any real numbers x,y,z,a,b,c, prove that (x^2+y^2+z^2)(a^2+b^2+c^2)>and equal to (ax+by+cz)^2

Hey Katherine! The first one is fairly okay once you see it:



This is a result from Extension 2 I believe, but you can move the RHS over to the left and obtain this using by factorisation if you like:



Either way, the result is proven  ;D

Your second question is very very similar to your first! Expand both sides, cancel like terms, then move everything over to one side and factorise:



Which is definitely true  ;D that last factorisation might be a little tricky to see, let me know if this doesn't make sense  ;D
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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #278 on: June 28, 2016, 09:43:13 am »
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Here is one massive take out from Jamon's answer:

Where possible, you should feel safe to work BACKWARDS. Sometimes trying to work forwards just doesn't produce an obvious result, and you must start from somewhere else.


@Jamon however, because we're working backwards we don't want to use \implies, because that's for working forwards! We can always use \iff wherever appropriate, however preferably use \impliedby (left sided implication)

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #279 on: June 28, 2016, 10:17:26 am »
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Here is one massive take out from Jamon's answer:

Where possible, you should feel safe to work BACKWARDS. Sometimes trying to work forwards just doesn't produce an obvious result, and you must start from somewhere else.

@Jamon however, because we're working backwards we don't want to use \implies, because that's for working forwards! We can always use \iff wherever appropriate, however preferably use \impliedby (left sided implication)

Aha mate, I just needed an arrow  ;)

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #280 on: June 28, 2016, 11:08:01 pm »
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help with this ques thanks

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #281 on: June 29, 2016, 09:37:12 am »
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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #282 on: June 30, 2016, 12:22:02 am »
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1)for a,b>0  show that (a+b)/2 greater than and equal to [(a^2+b^2)/2]^1/2

2) if 0<t<1, show that 1/2<1/(1+t)<1

3) 1/2(x^3+y^3)greater than equal to [(x+y)/2]^3

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #283 on: June 30, 2016, 10:25:44 am »
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1)for a,b>0  show that (a+b)/2 greater than and equal to [(a^2+b^2)/2]^1/2

2) if 0<t<1, show that 1/2<1/(1+t)<1

3) 1/2(x^3+y^3)greater than equal to [(x+y)/2]^3



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One way to set this one out would be:
t < 1 therefore t-1 < 0
0 < t therefore 0 < 2t
Therefore t-1 < 0 < 2t
t+1 < 2 < 2t+2
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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #284 on: July 03, 2016, 02:18:32 am »
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need help with these inequality ques thanks