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Hard's methods questions (easy)
« on: October 10, 2008, 04:37:13 pm »
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Evaluating the followings limits

If f(x) = x-2/x+2 continuos at x=2? give reasons for answer

For f(x)=x3 [cubed] - 3x find {x:f'(x) = 0}

Can you please show me how you work these out because i'm a bit confused due to not having enough time to commit to methods due to 3&4's.

Any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2008, 04:54:21 pm »
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Evaluating the followings limits

If f(x) = x-2/x+2 continuos at x=2? give reasons for answer

For f(x)=x3 [cubed] - 3x find {x:f'(x) = 0}

Can you please show me how you work these out because i'm a bit confused due to not having enough time to commit to methods due to 3&4's.

Any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance.

Not sure how to do the first one.

The second:


When




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Re: Hard's methods questions (easy)
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2008, 05:05:10 pm »
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Two answers as you take the root of 1. Hence 1 and -1

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Re: Hard's methods questions (easy)
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2008, 05:06:15 pm »
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Can you please show me how you work these out because i'm a bit confused due to not having enough time to commit to methods due to 3&4's.

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2008, 05:07:35 pm »
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Two answers as you take the root of 1. Hence 1 and -1

True, i'm too tired.
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Re: Hard's methods questions (easy)
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2008, 05:18:54 pm »
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for a function to be continuous at a, we have three conditions:
1. exists
2. exists
3.

here, , to verify continuity at



We evaluate by first trying to substitute the 2 in the limit, which exists (no nasty /0 stuff) and is 0, so





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Re: Hard's methods questions (easy)
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2008, 05:21:13 pm »
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mao, you need 4 conditions.

You need the limit as x approaches a from the positive direction AND from the neg. direction

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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2008, 05:23:07 pm »
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My frustration at being beaten by 2 minutes cannot be understated! :P

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Re: Hard's methods questions (easy)
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2008, 05:30:50 pm »
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mao, you need 4 conditions.

You need the limit as x approaches a from the positive direction AND from the neg. direction

actually, not quite.

the condition of a limit existing is that
1. the left hand limit exists
2. the right hand limit exists
3. the left hand limit = right hand limit

the condition of continuity at a point is that
1. the function exists
2. the limit exists at that point [thus encompassing all three conditions of the prior. By not specifying a direction of approach, it is assumed that the prior conditions are satisfied, that is left = right. but it is not within the scope of MM to show this :P]
3. the function = the limit

PS: sorry dcc :P
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Re: Hard's methods questions (easy)
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2008, 01:46:07 am »
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honestly you guys are legends! seriously. oh and to danieltennis, maybe in terms of importance next year but not this year.

oh yes and one more guys.

For f: R-->R where f(x) = x2 - 3x - 10 find:

a) the gradient where it crosses i) the y-axis ii) the x-axis


b)the coordinates of the point where i)the tangent is parallel to the x-axis ii)the tangent is parallel to the line y + 3x+4 = 0

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i'll get straight to methods after 3&4 exams :P
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Re: Hard's methods questions (easy)
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2008, 11:17:18 am »
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it crosses the y axis when x=0:





it crosses the x axis when y=0:

substituting, the two tangents are


b)
when it is parallel to the x axis, it is horizontal, i.e. gradient = 0



hence the coordinate is

when it is parallel to , the tangent has a gradient of -3.

hence the coordinate is
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Re: Hard's methods questions (easy)
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2008, 11:27:31 am »
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For f: R-->R where f(x) = x2 - 3x - 10 find:

a) the gradient where it crosses i) the y-axis ii) the x-axis

b) the coordinates of the point where i)the tangent is parallel to the x-axis ii)the tangent is parallel to the line y + 3x+4 = 0

Hmm, yeah I thought it was weirded strangely until I saw Mao's solution.

"The gradient where it crosses the y-axis" means the gradient where crosses the y-axis, because by "it", they mean - the question should be clearer about that.

Don't need to find the tangents.

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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2008, 01:29:24 pm »
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thanks Mao!

sorry for not wording it correctly.

also can you check if i have done this right:



        

       
         

       
         

       
         

       
         

 
         

hence 
         
Note: this is using the first principle rules and we are expected to work out the derivative

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Re: Hard's methods questions (easy)
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2008, 01:50:54 pm »
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mmmm not quite

Syntax on limits e.g. :
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\lim_{h\to 0}f(x)
Syntax on fractions e.g.
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\frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}




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Re: Hard's methods questions (easy)
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hence           


If you are not sure if you have got it right, look at and work it out using the short way.
Therefore
             
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