History Extension Question Thread!

[av-angie-er]

Hi Susie! I read somewhere before that you primarily prepared for History Extension essays by doing past papers; would you recommend doing this under timed conditions or writing essay plans to different questions? Thanks

[sudodds]

Hi Susie! I read somewhere before that you primarily prepared for History Extension essays by doing past papers; would you recommend doing this under timed conditions or writing essay plans to different questions? Thanks

Hey! For history extension, I wrote most of my practice essays open book/not under timed conditions. This meant that I'd be able to do a bit of research before and during answering the question, thus increasing my arsenal of arguments I could take into the exam However I definitely believe it would be worthwhile doing some under exam conditions as well, just so you can get used to feel of the exam - how long you have to write, how good you are at recalling arguments on the spot, etc. etc. I think essay plans are a great idea as well - I also recommend practicing analysing sources, as integrating the source is such a key component to a history extension essay.

[jadzia26]

how do you write a final judgement without it sounding repetitive from the analysis in the midst of the essay.  I feel like my project is just sooo rambly even though its pretty concise but my own judgement is absolutely necessary and i dont know how to make it flow :/

What would the purpose of Plutarch's and Aristotle's writing be?
sounds like a silly question but I don't want to simply assume it was to inform, and I can't find anything that properly answers this :/
Thanks

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[sudodds]

how do you write a final judgement without it sounding repetitive from the analysis in the midst of the essay.  I feel like my project is just sooo rambly even though its pretty concise but my own judgement is absolutely necessary and i dont know how to make it flow :/

What would the purpose of Plutarch's and Aristotle's writing be?
sounds like a silly question but I don't want to simply assume it was to inform, and I can't find anything that properly answers this :/
Thanks

hey! It's kinda difficult to say without looking at your essay, however the way that I typically did this would be to use words like "thus" and "therefore". So (analysis), thus it is further evident that (judgement). Or "(judgement) is reinforced by (analysis)". Does that answer your question?

In regards to your second question, unfortunately I didn't study Plutarch or Aristotle that closely - however I'm pretty sure (if I remember correctly from Ancient) Aristotle was Athenian, so if you're looking at his writings on Sparta, there will definitely be an ulterior motive behind his writings, as the two groups hated each other, and the Athenians were consistently emphasising their superiority through their works. Hopefully someone else will be able to verify this + provide a more detailed response

Susie

[bigsweetpotato2000]

That sounds like a logical break point to me!

Gotcha

Thanks Susie!!

[katie,rinos]

In regards to your second question, unfortunately I didn't study Plutarch or Aristotle that closely - however I'm pretty sure (if I remember correctly from Ancient) Aristotle was Athenian, so if you're looking at his writings on Sparta, there will definitely be an ulterior motive behind his writings, as the two groups hated each other, and the Athenians were consistently emphasising their superiority through their works. Hopefully someone else will be able to verify this + provide a more detailed response

Yep, Aristotle was from pro Athenian. He was intrigued by the political arrangements of Sparta and treated the Spartan system with a mixture of deep respect and severe criticism. He analysed the reasons for the decline of Sparta and exaggerated the features of Spartan life he believed were responsible (e.g the role of women).
Also, Plutarch was Greek and he was a priest of Apollo. He was very pro Sparta and carried the Spartan mirage.
Hope this helps!

[jadzia26]

Yep, Aristotle was from pro Athenian. He was intrigued by the political arrangements of Sparta and treated the Spartan system with a mixture of deep respect and severe criticism. He analysed the reasons for the decline of Sparta and exaggerated the features of Spartan life he believed were responsible (e.g the role of women).
Also, Plutarch was Greek and he was a priest of Apollo. He was very pro Sparta and carried the Spartan mirage.
Hope this helps!

Thanks so much!
I'm looking at Draco and Solon in Ancient Greek law so just as a minor point trying to figure out the purpose of their work since it was obviously skewed due to various reasons.

[jadzia26]

hey! It's kinda difficult to say without looking at your essay, however the way that I typically did this would be to use words like "thus" and "therefore". So (analysis), thus it is further evident that (judgement). Or "(judgement) is reinforced by (analysis)". Does that answer your question?

In regards to your second question, unfortunately I didn't study Plutarch or Aristotle that closely - however I'm pretty sure (if I remember correctly from Ancient) Aristotle was Athenian, so if you're looking at his writings on Sparta, there will definitely be an ulterior motive behind his writings, as the two groups hated each other, and the Athenians were consistently emphasising their superiority through their works. Hopefully someone else will be able to verify this + provide a more detailed response

Susie

And thank you that does answer my questions
I've sort of already been doing that so I think refining and clearing messy areas will help.
I just wasn't sure i was on the right track so thanks heaps!

[Blazeee]

Hello

Just wondering how many units history extension is worth?
Turns out my school does enforce at least one business subject...which sucks...but going to push for otherwise, just need to know if history extension is one or two units?
Thanks

[sudodds]

Hello

Just wondering how many units history extension is worth?
Turns out my school does enforce at least one business subject...which sucks...but going to push for otherwise, just need to know if history extension is one or two units?
Thanks

that. is. so. weird. Compulsory business? How strange.

History extension is worth one unit

[Blazeee]

that. is. so. weird. Compulsory business? How strange.

History extension is worth one unit

yes i say! so stupid!!
ok was hoping it was two....will work something out for year 12!

[Maraos]

Hey, I was too late to submit my history extension essay for marking (since it will be locked during the trial period  )
Would it be possible to just upload some parts of my essay for checking/advice, Its due this monday and unfortunately i was bogged down with my design and technology major work all this week so I didn't get time to submit my essay for marking on ATAR notes.

[sudodds]

Hey, I was too late to submit my history extension essay for marking (since it will be locked during the trial period  )
Would it be possible to just upload some parts of my essay for checking/advice, Its due this monday and unfortunately i was bogged down with my design and technology major work all this week so I didn't get time to submit my essay for marking on ATAR notes.

Sure thing Maraos! Just submit them here. However I won't be able to get it today due to the Q&A this afternoon - I should have time tomorrow though

[Maraos]

Sure thing Maraos! Just submit them here. However I won't be able to get it today due to the Q&A this afternoon - I should have time tomorrow though

Thanks so much Susie , and no worries get back to me whenever you can  

[Maraos]

Hey Susie,
sorry this took so long I just wanted to make sure it was pretty much done before i sent it.
I understand that the marking has been closed  unfortunately i was too late, attached is my entire essay if you could just read it and let me know if it sounds semi-good that would be great.
Also in regards to our last conversation about my ext history topic, I had to change my question (once again) because my teacher thought that tackling 'the historiographical implications of popular history' was too big. my new question is essentially the same thing but a little more specific.
Also my teacher essentially forced everyone to write in a chronological fashion (which I know you said i should steer away). So I had to write my essay in that form.
Hopefully the essay isn't too bad because it is due tomorrow   
any advice/feedback would be great 

Thanks!