Statement of Marks/Study Score Thread 2013

[Rod]

Why are you so mad? You can't change anything and you found your marks out like a month ago and a 38 is a great score / shouldn't tell your brother not to do it because you lost marks.

P.S. How do you get a 'statement of marks' people?

You go to the VCAA website, print out a sheet and fill out some details, costs like $20.


You're right I can't change anything, should look to change the future. Also I heard that in chemistry/physics markers 'give you marks', unlike biology where they want to take them off.

[itsdanny]

You go to the VCAA website, print out a sheet and fill out some details, costs like $20.

I'm so fuc**** pissed, I missed out by 1.8% and the marking was horrendous. In four questions, one marker gave me full marks while the other gave me none, I lost 8 marks because of that, EIGHT.

Also I heard that in chemistry/physics markers 'give you marks', unlike biology where they want to take them off.

It doesn't matter what you hear, every year there is bound to be a different examiner that may get your paper and it is up to their discretion on what they give you. Don't forget that if there is a huge discrepancy between the two examiners, a third examiner comes in and this continues on until an amicable resolution is arrived upon. So it is always safe to assume that examiners are there to give you marks; they actually want to help you.

[2NE1]

Biology

GA1: 92 raw (MHS) scaled to 99
GA2: 92 raw (MHS) scaled to 100
GA3: 205/220
SS: 48

would you happen to know the exam mark range for the Biology Exam that got you a 48?

[psyxwar]

FU** I was so close. Looking at the statement of marks, for FOUR questions both markers gave me different marks, one gave me full and the other gave me none. Biology is the most stingy fking subject ever, if I had two markers that marked the same I could have got 98/110. On the other hand, if I had two markers that marked harshly, I would have got like 84/110 and not 91. Far out biology not going to recommend my lil bro in doin git.

Yeah, I lost like 5-6 half marks... pretty dodgy, but there's nothing you can do about it.

would you happen to know the exam mark range for the Biology Exam that got you a 48?

They didn't say, but considering how competitive it is at the top end I'd think you scored around the same as me, give or take one.

[psyxwar]

How do you know if one marker gave you full marks and the other gave you none?
On my statement of marks, I only got what the two assessor gave me combined. Eg. 8/10 meant anything from (4/5; 4/5); (5/5, 3/5) etc.

Yeah that's what we got as well for bio. I think he means losing half marks. eg. question is worth 4, but doublemarked so its out of 8. If you get 7/8 obviously one assessor gave you 3 and the other 4.

[Rod]

Yeah that's what we got as well for bio. I think he means losing half marks. eg. question is worth 4, but doublemarked so its out of 8. If you get 7/8 obviously one assessor gave you 3 and the other 4.

Yeah, for two four mark questions I got 3/4, so obviously one marker has given me 1 mark and the other 2. And then a couple of two mark questions I got 1/2, so one marker gave me the mark while the other didn't.

[Rod]

Oh; sorry I removed my response (cuz I thought after it was quite unnecessary) before you got to respond.

But that still doesn't explain how Rod knew that one assessor gave him 0 marks and the other 8 marks for one question. I mean if, like you say, Bio SOM scores are combined one can only speculate if the marks were 4 and 4; 3 and 5; 2 and 6 etc...

Plus, Rod if are complaining about 'half marks" I got 8 "half marks" taken off for my 3/4 (ie. lost all of my 8 marks over 8 separate questions) showing that for writing/expression type subjects (like Bio, Eng, Commerce subjects) inherent subjectivity exists. But ultimately, I think this inconsistency is "balanced out" in that if the assessor who gave you no marks for that question continued in the following questions to be an tightass in marking your paper (compared to the other 'nicer' assessor)  your marking would be reviewed by a third assessor who will try to get your mark to within three marks of either of the assessors. This means your exam score was actually verified by at least two assessors.

Yeah all good I'm kind of over it now . But I still have one more query in regard to my SS, I was 2 marks away from the 40 SS and I got 38, does that mean the 39ers of bio all got 92? Unlikely... My cohourt couldn't have brought me down because my SACS for each GA got scaled up by 15 marks.

Thanks for all the help guys! Hope you are all having a wonderful holiday, good luck for this year



Tl;dr VCAA humanities/writing subject marking =not infallible but in the end, you get roughly what you are worth (in terms of your skill etc.)

[Rod]

Oh; sorry I removed my response (cuz I thought after it was quite unnecessary) before you got to respond.

But that still doesn't explain how Rod knew that one assessor gave him 0 marks and the other 8 marks for one question. I mean if, like you say, Bio SOM scores are combined one can only speculate if the marks were 4 and 4; 3 and 5; 2 and 6 etc...

Plus, Rod if are complaining about 'half marks" I got 8 "half marks" taken off for my 3/4 (ie. lost all of my 8 marks over 8 separate questions) showing that for writing/expression type subjects (like Bio, Eng, Commerce subjects) inherent subjectivity exists. But ultimately, I think this inconsistency is "balanced out" in that if the assessor who gave you no marks for that question continued in the following questions to be an tightass in marking your paper (compared to the other 'nicer' assessor)  your marking would be reviewed by a third assessor who will try to get your mark to within three marks of either of the assessors. This means your exam score was actually verified by at least two assessors.

Tl;dr VCAA humanities/writing subject marking =not infallible but in the end, you get roughly what you are worth (in terms of your skill etc.)

What do you mean by one marker giving me 8 marks and the other none? I said nothing like that... There were no questions in the exam that were even worth a total of 8 marks

[psyxwar]

What do you mean 40 cutoff? A+ is not a 40. You could get 3 A+s and still get a 38.

[Rod]

What do you mean 40 cutoff? A+ is not a 40. You could get 3 A+s and still get a 38.

Ohh god I'm so confused. Doesn't a 93/110 put you in the top 9% in the state? So woudn't you get 40 if you got 93??

[psyxwar]

Ohh god I'm so confused. Doesn't a 93/110 put you in the top 9% in the state? So woudn't you get 40 if you got 93??

A 40 is top 9% as far as I know (it's definitely not top 10), and besides, it's not the only assessment there is.

[Rod]

A 40 is top 9% as far as I know (it's definitely not top 10), and besides, it's not the only assessment there is.

I'm still confused, sorry, I don't get you.

So yes, I know to get a 40 you need to be within the top 9% in the state. The statement of study score shows that an A+ cut off is 93/110, isn't that also the 40 SS cut off?

Sorry for all these questions....

[psyxwar]

I'm still confused, sorry, I don't get you.

So yes, I know to get a 40 you need to be within the top 9% in the state. The statement of study score shows that an A+ cut off is 93/110, isn't that also the 40 SS cut off?

Sorry for all these questions....

If I recall correctly:

A+ = top 10% of the state
40 = top 9% of the state

But even if they were equal, getting an A+ on the exam doesn't guarantee a 40, since you have 3 graded assessments (with the exam being weighted 60%)

[Rod]

If I recall correctly:

A+ = top 10% of the state
40 = top 9% of the state

But even if they were equal, getting an A+ on the exam doesn't guarantee a 40, since you have 3 graded assessments (with the exam being weighted 60%)

Yep I fully understand now! Thank you psyxwar!

[lzxnl]

You don't even need a A+ for the exam for a score above 40. Makes it a lot easier though.