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Re: History Extension Question Thread!
« Reply #315 on: April 08, 2018, 10:51:25 pm »
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So my half yearly for extension is tomorrow morning (whoops) but I'm feeling pretty confident. I was just curious on how you guys picked the historians you're using in the essay (that's if your school does the same assessment as mine). My teacher tells me that 2 is a good number with the source, but did any of you do more or less? I'm studying for 3 (Herodotus, von Ranke and Evans) but I also have little bits and pieces from others so hopefully I'll have more than enough for 25 marks. 

On another note, I've almost finished my history project, I've decided to research how mythology can be used as evidence in modern history, focusing on the existence of Atlantis. How are the rest of you guys going?!
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Re: History Extension Question Thread!
« Reply #316 on: April 08, 2018, 11:08:48 pm »
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So my half yearly for extension is tomorrow morning (whoops) but I'm feeling pretty confident. I was just curious on how you guys picked the historians you're using in the essay (that's if your school does the same assessment as mine). My teacher tells me that 2 is a good number with the source, but did any of you do more or less? I'm studying for 3 (Herodotus, von Ranke and Evans) but I also have little bits and pieces from others so hopefully I'll have more than enough for 25 marks. 

On another note, I've almost finished my history project, I've decided to research how mythology can be used as evidence in modern history, focusing on the existence of Atlantis. How are the rest of you guys going?!
So glad to hear you are feeling confident :) When I studied extension, I pretty much just stuck with these main historians; EH Carr, Keith Jenkins (or Hayden White), and John Vincent. This is because I felt they provided quite a good scope in terms of historiographical ideas, and I was able to study them in depth through my major work :) Highly recommend these three if you're interested in expanding your list! I think the selection you've got currently is good, the only thing I might suggest is to include a relativist/postmodernist in there, to balance out the empiricism of Von Ranke and Evans (like EH Carr or Keith Jenkins).

They usually say "at least two" in an exam, so you should be fine, however you can always include more! Nothing stopping you, though more than three probably means you're not exploring them in depth enough in your responses :)

Hope this helps!

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Re: History Extension Question Thread!
« Reply #317 on: April 18, 2018, 06:33:03 pm »
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Extension Jesus, you there?
Hello, Suzie, it's me your faithful follower with so many questions
In terms of my major, I've pretty much used this mini project I completed in prelims on the development of Mao's cult of personality during the cultural revolution to set the bases for my research. I know that I want to do something on Mao Zedong, most definitely, and my teacher wants me to also observe Deng Xiaoping. So far I've only investigated their rise to power, policies, issues during under their watch. For my proposal, I compared the cult of personalities of the two leaders but I have absolutely no idea on how to tie in historiography with this. I may be on the wrong path and going nowhere but if you have any tips on how to tie in historiographies, what to research, if I should neglect a profile or the cult of personality idea altogether then I would really appreciate it! Anything at all even if you tell me nothing at all is relevant to extension history.
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Re: History Extension Question Thread!
« Reply #318 on: April 18, 2018, 06:38:42 pm »
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Extension Jesus, you there?
Hello, Suzie, it's me your faithful follower with so many questions
In terms of my major, I've pretty much used this mini project I completed in prelims on the development of Mao's cult of personality during the cultural revolution to set the bases for my research. I know that I want to do something on Mao Zedong, most definitely, and my teacher wants me to also observe Deng Xiaoping. So far I've only investigated their rise to power, policies, issues during under their watch. For my proposal, I compared the cult of personalities of the two leaders but I have absolutely no idea on how to tie in historiography with this. I may be on the wrong path and going nowhere but if you have any tips on how to tie in historiographies, what to research, if I should neglect a profile or the cult of personality idea altogether then I would really appreciate it! Anything at all even if you tell me nothing at all is relevant to extension history.
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hey Jett, happy to help!

Okay so sounds like you've got a really interesting major work topic, however I do understand your concern :) You do want to make sure that this doesn't just become a history project, and with that in mind you shouldn't just be tying historiography into this essay, but rather it should be the BASIS of your essay. What you need to work out are debates - what do historians disagree on in regard to these two figures, and WHY do they disagree on them? Then, try and see if there are any common threads between various historians in how they portray these individuals. For eg (i'm sure you could find better examples), do social historians present a different view of Mao Zedong in comparison to economic historians? Why would a social historian present him in this way?

An interesting, historiographical topic that you could look at in regard to Mao Zedong is his characterisation as one of the most evil men in history (in comparison to other Communist leaders like Stalin, and even Adolf Hitler!). Now with a history extension project you wouldn't have to disagree or agree with that statement, but rather analyse why some people perceive him as that, while others (because many actually do, whether you find it hard to believe or not) treat him like a hero. If I were to undertake this project, I would probably look at the influence of the text 'The Black Book of Communism', and how that has shaped interpretations of his regime, as that book has kind of become the basis for the way non-communist historians deal with communist history.

Hope this helps!

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Re: History Extension Question Thread!
« Reply #319 on: April 18, 2018, 06:56:45 pm »
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hey Jett, happy to help!

Okay so sounds like you've got a really interesting major work topic, however I do understand your concern :) You do want to make sure that this doesn't just become a history project, and with that in mind you shouldn't just be tying historiography into this essay, but rather it should be the BASIS of your essay. What you need to work out are debates - what do historians disagree on in regard to these two figures, and WHY do they disagree on them? Then, try and see if there are any common threads between various historians in how they portray these individuals. For eg (i'm sure you could find better examples), do social historians present a different view of Mao Zedong in comparison to economic historians? Why would a social historian present him in this way?

An interesting, historiographical topic that you could look at in regard to Mao Zedong is his characterisation as one of the most evil men in history (in comparison to other Communist leaders like Stalin, and even Adolf Hitler!). Now with a history extension project you wouldn't have to disagree or agree with that statement, but rather analyse why some people perceive him as that, while others (because many actually do, whether you find it hard to believe or not) treat him like a hero. If I were to undertake this project, I would probably look at the influence of the text 'The Black Book of Communism', and how that has shaped interpretations of his regime, as that book has kind of become the basis for the way non-communist historians deal with communist history.

Hope this helps!

Susie

THANK YOU!! This has definitely helped. I can apply the same debate to Deng considering he wasnt an all rounder either. Bless you!!!

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Re: History Extension Question Thread!
« Reply #320 on: April 24, 2018, 12:13:08 pm »
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Hey ;D could i have a bit of feedback please on part of one of my major work paragraphs- i'm struggling a bit with it as u can prob tell!!! ;)
I'm really not sure if it makes any sense at all....but thanks for ur help!

Question: If history is supposed to be fact, why are there so many accounts? Explore this through the lens of the Manhattan Project.

The value of truth in documentation is not instinctively recognised unless prompted by a distinct lack of morality. To infer an historian’s documentation is innately moral is too simplistic, given the subjectivity of morality itself. Hence, it is imperative to consider the motivations driving a documentation, to adequately determine its veracity as fact. Ultimately, the concern that historians should make moral judgements apropos to their work, remains as a contentious issue. This is furthered through Andrew Brown’s understanding in his work Keeper of the Nuclear Conscience: The life and Work of Joseph Rotblat, “[M]orality is a lot like gravity. It’s a pervasive force which is essential for human activity, but like gravity is a weak force, and it’s easily overcome.”  This furthers the ideas of the value of truth in documenting work, as Brown comprehends the weaknesses of morality and the ability for individuals to despise these values despite its essentiality to life. Consequently, Brown highlights that in an absence of integrity, the historian’s veracity is challenged and the possibility of fact in history is ultimately questioned. Likewise, philosopher George Grant has pursued an investigation recognising that fact without morality is deficient of meaning, and consequently becomes a product of thought- evidently enabling historians to produce numerous accounts of little worth. Grant’s consideration “Good deprived of its spiritual and moral dimension becomes value, or values, a concept of worth, utility, commodity, judgements from a denatured soul rather than ideas permeated with meaning” , is relative to activities undertaken by scientists, doctors and physicists in their work on the production of an atomic bomb in the Manhattan Project. J Robert Oppenheimer, a theoretical physicist known as ‘the father of the atomic bomb’, claims that “when you see something that is technically sweet, you go ahead and do it”, conveying the absence of considering morals and ethics in a scientific academy. As believed by nuclear disarmament specialist Jennifer Allen Simmons, the analysis of political, religious or moral issues would mar the pursuit of scientific truth by dogma or human passions, allowing workers of the Manhattan Project to overlook humanity to pursue an invention in ignorance of the consequences.   Therefore, it is evident that a sense of immorality can ultimately deter fact from becoming truth, in an historians’ quest to reflect their motives.


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Re: History Extension Question Thread!
« Reply #321 on: May 22, 2018, 12:48:14 pm »
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Hi Suzie (or anyone else)
What would be your tips for studying for section 2 of the HSC exam? The case study I'm doing is Crusades. Would it be similar as to how you would study for the section 1?
Thank you !
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« Reply #322 on: May 22, 2018, 01:16:16 pm »
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Hi Suzie (or anyone else)
What would be your tips for studying for section 2 of the HSC exam? The case study I'm doing is Crusades. Would it be similar as to how you would study for the section 1?
Thank you !
Hey Henry,
I studied pretty similarly for section 2 and section 1. My case study was JFK and I made flashcards/quizlets on aspects such as the historian’s context, methodology, interpretations, quotes, name/year of books. I also tried to do a lot of essay plans and practise essays on past HSC and trial papers.

Hope this helps :D
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Re: History Extension Question Thread!
« Reply #323 on: May 23, 2018, 12:41:02 pm »
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Hey Henry,
I studied pretty similarly for section 2 and section 1. My case study was JFK and I made flashcards/quizlets on aspects such as the historian’s context, methodology, interpretations, quotes, name/year of books. I also tried to do a lot of essay plans and practise essays on past HSC and trial papers.

Hope this helps :D

Yes that certainly helped! Thank you !
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Re: History Extension Question Thread!
« Reply #324 on: June 06, 2018, 01:56:17 pm »
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Hi,

Thanks for creating this forum - it's been super helpful! 
I'm just wondering about how to approach section II of the History Extension paper.  My case study is JFK, and although I'm relatively comfortable with the content I have no idea how to structure the essay.  Any recommendations? 

Thanks

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« Reply #325 on: June 06, 2018, 02:13:16 pm »
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Hi,

Thanks for creating this forum - it's been super helpful! 
I'm just wondering about how to approach section II of the History Extension paper.  My case study is JFK, and although I'm relatively comfortable with the content I have no idea how to structure the essay.  Any recommendations? 

Thanks

Hey,
Welcome to AN!!  :)

I did JFK last year! For my essays, I mainly did paragraphs on each of my main historians (one from the Camelot, Revisionist and post-revisionist schools) context and methodology and then linked this to how it affected their interpretation of events. I also tried to have links between the different historians and to the question throughout my essay. However, this can also be written thematically, looking at some of the main themes between all three schools of history and relating them to the question.

Hope this helps!!  ;D
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« Reply #326 on: June 12, 2018, 07:58:44 pm »
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Hey guys,
For the project synopsis, my teacher said that I needed to include more on methodology / why content used in the essay was included. I'm not too sure how to approach this - is it just saying what sources / historians I used?
Thanks!  :)  :)

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« Reply #327 on: June 12, 2018, 10:12:55 pm »
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Hey guys,
For the project synopsis, my teacher said that I needed to include more on methodology / why content used in the essay was included. I'm not too sure how to approach this - is it just saying what sources / historians I used?
Thanks!  :)  :)
Hey Imogen,
Welcome to AN!! :)

I think you might need to say a bit about what sources/historians you used. I didn't write a lot about methodology in my synopsis but maybe a bit about how you came up with your question and researched your essay.

For why content was used in the essay, I needed to include more detail about why I choose both of my historians and focussed on my specific topic (Police Battalion 101). So, some of the things I said was that they had both written books on the topics, and their interpretations had been both praised, criticised and sometimes controversial.

For example this was my synopsis:
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This essay is looking at two conflicting interpretations of why many perpetrators of the Holocaust were involved in the murder of the Jewish people. I am investigating the debate between Christopher Browning and Daniel Goldhagen, two historians with conflicting interpretations on the events due to the great deal of information that I can use as they have both written books on this issue. Their interpretations have both been praised and criticised (in many different historical works) and Goldhagen especially has been very controversial in his views on the Holocaust and the German culture of the perpetrators.  I am examining their context and methodology and how this has affected their interpretations of the events. I am also drawing on their criticisms to find out which historian’s interpretation is more reliable. This historical enquiry will answer the ‘Who are the historians?’, and ‘How has history been constructed and recorded over time?’ questions from the syllabus. I came to this question after first researching how much the German population knew about the Holocaust, and then realising that thousands of Germans were actively involved in the murder of the Jewish people.

Hope this helps!! :D
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« Reply #328 on: June 13, 2018, 06:00:52 pm »
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Hey Imogen,
Welcome to AN!! :)

I think you might need to say a bit about what sources/historians you used. I didn't write a lot about methodology in my synopsis but maybe a bit about how you came up with your question and researched your essay.

For why content was used in the essay, I needed to include more detail about why I choose both of my historians and focussed on my specific topic (Police Battalion 101). So, some of the things I said was that they had both written books on the topics, and their interpretations had been both praised, criticised and sometimes controversial.

For example this was my synopsis:
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This essay is looking at two conflicting interpretations of why many perpetrators of the Holocaust were involved in the murder of the Jewish people. I am investigating the debate between Christopher Browning and Daniel Goldhagen, two historians with conflicting interpretations on the events due to the great deal of information that I can use as they have both written books on this issue. Their interpretations have both been praised and criticised (in many different historical works) and Goldhagen especially has been very controversial in his views on the Holocaust and the German culture of the perpetrators.  I am examining their context and methodology and how this has affected their interpretations of the events. I am also drawing on their criticisms to find out which historian’s interpretation is more reliable. This historical enquiry will answer the ‘Who are the historians?’, and ‘How has history been constructed and recorded over time?’ questions from the syllabus. I came to this question after first researching how much the German population knew about the Holocaust, and then realising that thousands of Germans were actively involved in the murder of the Jewish people.

Hope this helps!! :D

Thanks for the help Katie!!  :D

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« Reply #329 on: June 19, 2018, 01:56:50 pm »
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I know this is really simple (and something I've gone over heaps of times) - but can someone please define the different types of history - e.g. modern, post-modern etc?? My teacher never actually explicitly taught it, so I'm trying to study but v confused!