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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #465 on: August 27, 2016, 10:26:10 pm »
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Hi,

I'm stuck on a few questions from paper 1999
Q2c) why is Re(z)= -1 an empty circle?
Q2e) isn't turning anticlockwise x i, and turning clockwise x -i ?
So answer should be -->AP= -Z(1)i? [But ANS is -->AP =Z(1)i]

(I tried to upload the pics of the question, but it didn't work)

Mod edit: Merged posts. Try to keep everything together :)
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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #466 on: August 27, 2016, 10:35:24 pm »
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Hi,

I'm stuck on a few questions from paper 1999
Q2c) why is Re(z)= -1 an empty circle?
Q2e) isn't turning anticlockwise x i, and turning clockwise x -i ?
So answer should be -->AP= -Z(1)i? [But ANS is -->AP =Z(1)i]

(I tried to upload the pics of the question, but it didn't work)

Mod edit: Merged posts. Try to keep everything together :)
Are we talking about the 1999 HSC exam? Because Q2c) of that does not have Re(z).

If the diagram failed to upload, what paper are you trying to refer to

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #467 on: August 27, 2016, 11:12:11 pm »
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Yep, it's the HSC 1999 paper. So you have to sketch the region on the Argand diagram so the x-axis would be Re(z) and the y-axis would be Im(z) right?

(I'm new to the site, so this is taking me a while...)

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #468 on: August 27, 2016, 11:17:03 pm »
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This is the 1999 paper

Q2c) says to sketch the region bound by |z-i|≤2 and 0≤arg(z+1)≤π/4

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #469 on: August 27, 2016, 11:34:31 pm »
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sorry, that question seems so dumb now...
I get it now; just needed a quick scan of the textbook  :)....
sorry for wasting your time  :(

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #470 on: August 27, 2016, 11:38:40 pm »
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What about Q2e) ?

Also, for Q6bvi) I followed through i to v) but when I got up to vi) what's U, U(o) and V? and also, T(o) is the total time if air resistance is ignored so this should be smaller than T (which if the total time with air resistance-I think) ? >>because an object falling with no air resistance will fall quicker than an object falling against air resistance. [But the ANS is T(o) > T]

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #471 on: August 27, 2016, 11:50:06 pm »
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Hi,

I'm stuck on a few questions from paper 1999
Q2c) why is Re(z)= -1 an empty circle?
Q2e) isn't turning anticlockwise x i, and turning clockwise x -i ?
So answer should be -->AP= -Z(1)i? [But ANS is -->AP =Z(1)i]

(I tried to upload the pics of the question, but it didn't work)

Mod edit: Merged posts. Try to keep everything together :)
Regarding 2e) That is an anticlockwise rotation. Keep in mind the direction of the vector.

PA is a clockwise rotation.

However, AP is an anticlockwise rotation.

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #472 on: August 27, 2016, 11:59:26 pm »
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What about Q2e) ?

Also, for Q6bvi) I followed through i to v) but when I got up to vi) what's U, U(o) and V? and also, T(o) is the total time if air resistance is ignored so this should be smaller than T (which if the total time with air resistance-I think) ? >>because an object falling with no air resistance will fall quicker than an object falling against air resistance. [But the ANS is T(o) > T]

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #473 on: August 28, 2016, 09:04:42 pm »
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Thanks so much for your help Rui! That made the question a lot clearer. I get it now. Previously, I was really confused with all the Ts, Us, and Vs and I was visualising the fall of the object downwards only. So T which is with air resistance is 'pushed' against by the air downwards while it's travelling upwards resulting in a lower maximum height compared to T(o) which is without air resistance, thus allowing it to have a greater max height. So T(o)>T.

Thanks again.  :)

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #474 on: August 28, 2016, 09:28:07 pm »
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Hi, how do u solve this question?
In how many ways can 5 different red roses and 3 different white roses be planted in a straight line next to a fence so that no 2 white roses are together?
I personally did: 8! - 6! x 3! but this equates to 36 000 and the answer is 14 400. Can you please also tell me wat is wrong with my working out. Thanks :)

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #475 on: August 28, 2016, 09:33:24 pm »
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Hi, how do u solve this question?
In how many ways can 5 different red roses and 3 different white roses be planted in a straight line next to a fence so that no 2 white roses are together?
I personally did: 8! - 6! x 3! but this equates to 36 000 and the answer is 14 400. Can you please also tell me wat is wrong with my working out. Thanks :)
Can't exactly follow your logic how 6!3! eliminates the cases when the white roses are planted together in your working.




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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #476 on: August 28, 2016, 11:00:32 pm »
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Can't exactly follow your logic how 6!3! eliminates the cases when the white roses are planted together in your working.





Thanks! Well I did 6! x 3! as the white roses being together as you would consider the 3 roses as a group and therefore there would be 6! ways of arranging them with the 5 roses and 3! ways of themselves being arranged in their own group. My wording is not probably the best but that's how I usually tackle these sorts of questions and I'm not sure why this method doesn't get me to the answer like it usually does. Do u know y that is the case?

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #477 on: August 28, 2016, 11:07:04 pm »
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Thanks! Well I did 6! x 3! as the white roses being together as you would consider the 3 roses as a group and therefore there would be 6! ways of arranging them with the 5 roses and 3! ways of themselves being arranged in their own group. My wording is not probably the best but that's how I usually tackle these sorts of questions and I'm not sure why this method doesn't get me to the answer like it usually does. Do u know y that is the case?

I follow you! That covers cases with all three white roses together, but if you think carefully, it actually doesn't cover two at a time. So, you aren't subtracting enough cases, which is why your answer is higher than it should be ;D

I love the method you use, and often it works really well, just not in this case, you need to be very careful with probability!

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #478 on: August 28, 2016, 11:33:04 pm »
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Hi znaser,

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that with your method, for the white flowers; it's just 6x3! as if you imagine the 3 flowers as a bunch, you can order them with only 6 choices and not 6! choices.

So instead, the answer should be 8!-3!x6= 40284, unless if I have done something horribly wrong :)

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #479 on: August 28, 2016, 11:39:58 pm »
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But this doesn't align with Rui's answer (which I fully understand) so I'm pretty sure my working out is somehow horribly wrong....
(but I don't know why it doesn't work ...)