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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1395 on: August 26, 2017, 07:59:21 pm »
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Show that cos4θ =8(cosθ )^4-8(cosθ )^2+1.
a) Solve the equation 8x^4-8x^2+1=0 and deduce the exact values of cospi/8 and cos5pi/8.
b) Solve the equation 16x^4-16x^2+1=0 and deduce the exact v alues of cospi/12 and cos5pi/12.

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1396 on: August 27, 2017, 12:29:20 pm »
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Could i get help with part 3. Thanks!

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1397 on: August 27, 2017, 12:45:57 pm »
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Could i get help with part 3. Thanks!
In the future, please provide progress on the previous parts. Here, part i would've been useful.



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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1398 on: August 27, 2017, 12:54:35 pm »
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THANKSSSS Rui. Ill make sure to include the working for previous parts in the post next time!

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1399 on: August 27, 2017, 03:52:50 pm »
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Thanks :D About the post mergings - I was actually considering doing that before I multi-posted (I think I've been told of for that before and know it's something generally not appreciated in this thread) but I ran into a problem where, if I spent time typing all those questions before, by the time I posted them all at once, there may have already been a solution offered to the first, you get what I mean? (Geezus I feel like I'm doing such a terrible job explaining sorry, but it's just that, if I post 1 problem, in the time it takes for me to type another, someone (like you) can read it and give me a solution - effectively saving time) so that's why I multi-posted. What should I do about this problem in the future?

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1400 on: August 27, 2017, 05:28:43 pm »
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Thanks :D About the post mergings - I was actually considering doing that before I multi-posted (I think I've been told of for that before and know it's something generally not appreciated in this thread) but I ran into a problem where, if I spent time typing all those questions before, by the time I posted them all at once, there may have already been a solution offered to the first, you get what I mean? (Geezus I feel like I'm doing such a terrible job explaining sorry, but it's just that, if I post 1 problem, in the time it takes for me to type another, someone (like you) can read it and give me a solution - effectively saving time) so that's why I multi-posted. What should I do about this problem in the future?
Questions like these are very unlikely to fall under the umbrella of "quick" questions; their solutions require over 10 minutes to be typed up properly, making this unlikely. If you have a series of small questions there's nothing wrong with simply asking them all at once, otherwise preferably wait for one (or if it isn't overly excessive, maybe two) to be answered already before posting more.

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1401 on: August 28, 2017, 12:59:32 pm »
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Questions like these are very unlikely to fall under the umbrella of "quick" questions; their solutions require over 10 minutes to be typed up properly, making this unlikely. If you have a series of small questions there's nothing wrong with simply asking them all at once, otherwise preferably wait for one (or if it isn't overly excessive, maybe two) to be answered already before posting more.

Okay, will do ^^

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1402 on: August 28, 2017, 01:46:18 pm »
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Show that cos5θ=15(cosθ)^5-20(cosθ)^3+5cosθ. Hence
a) Solve the equation 16x^5-20x^3+5x-1=0 and deduce the exact values of cos(2pi/5) and cos(4pi/5)
b) Solve the equaion 32x^5-40x^3+10x-1=0 and deduce that
i) cospi/15+cos7pi/15+cos13pi/15+cos19pi/15=-1/2
ii) cospi/15cos7pi/15cos13pi/15cos19pi/15=1/16.

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1403 on: August 28, 2017, 03:22:19 pm »
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Show that cos5θ=15(cosθ)^5-20(cosθ)^3+5cosθ. Hence
a) Solve the equation 16x^5-20x^3+5x-1=0 and deduce the exact values of cos(2pi/5) and cos(4pi/5)
b) Solve the equaion 32x^5-40x^3+10x-1=0 and deduce that
i) cospi/15+cos7pi/15+cos13pi/15+cos19pi/15=-1/2
ii) cospi/15cos7pi/15cos13pi/15cos19pi/15=1/16.

If you have trouble replicating the same procedure you should post up your working instead for guidance/feedback.
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The next question is done via a similar method (with differences being that no exact values make it faster, and the equation to solve is weirder). To be honest, these methods are all in my 4U Notes book; you need to take a look at it.

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1404 on: September 04, 2017, 11:42:39 am »
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If you have trouble replicating the same procedure you should post up your working instead for guidance/feedback.
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The next question is done via a similar method (with differences being that no exact values make it faster, and the equation to solve is weirder). To be honest, these methods are all in my 4U Notes book; you need to take a look at it.

Thanks! Yeah I dunno why, I'm just not very good at those. For part b i) I got one of the roots as cos(-11pi/15), and the only one that doesn't match up to any of the other roots I got was cos19pi/15. I was wondering how you got from cos(-11pi/15) to cos(19pi/15).

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1405 on: September 04, 2017, 12:33:35 pm »
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Thanks! Yeah I dunno why, I'm just not very good at those. For part b i) I got one of the roots as cos(-11pi/15), and the only one that doesn't match up to any of the other roots I got was cos19pi/15. I was wondering how you got from cos(-11pi/15) to cos(19pi/15).


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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1406 on: September 13, 2017, 04:43:03 pm »
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can someone explain this both in words and equations - struggle with dummy variables

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1407 on: September 13, 2017, 05:07:38 pm »
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can someone explain this both in words and equations - struggle with dummy variables



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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1408 on: September 14, 2017, 01:18:49 pm »
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Hi!

I was wondering what are the best textbooks for 4U? I've heard that while cambridge is good for the harder questions, it isn't really realistic for the types of questions in the HSC?  (Any recs for 3U as well? Is Fitzpatrick 'better' than Cambridge?)

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Re: 4U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1409 on: September 14, 2017, 10:24:43 pm »
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Hi!

I was wondering what are the best textbooks for 4U? I've heard that while cambridge is good for the harder questions, it isn't really realistic for the types of questions in the HSC?  (Any recs for 3U as well? Is Fitzpatrick 'better' than Cambridge?)

Thank you
There is no such thing as best textbooks to rely on HSC questions/preparation, especially given that the ultimate focus is always past papers.

For some decently worthwhile mentions, if you're using the small Cambridge book that is only ever so decent. As for question types, they are either too easy or too hard.

On the other hand, things like Terry Lee's textbook are generally recommended for selective schools, due to the difficulty of the questions.

4U Fitzpatrick is decent, provided the newer version is chosen. The old version is quite useless.

What's generally regarded as a standout is the Sydney Grammar textbook, as it is most similar to the 3U Cambridge textbook. This textbook, however, must be purchased from the school. It was never published (presumably due to the new syllabus things), and comes as only a PDF.