Biomed People

[luken93]

just to confirm, if anyone knows, do kldys still get in on a 90?
I was told this when I received the award, but due to the high demand i wouldn't be surprised if they dogged it haha
btw, this thread has definitely turned my attention, i went off it for a bit because of the reasons shilayli suggested, but this reassures my passion!
Also, how many spots are open to graduate physio and med and what sort of gamsat results would you need to be getting? I'm presuming physio would be less than med, so if anyone knows roughly the scores needed for each?
Thanks

I'm not 100% sure about the kldys. I was one, but i met the ENTER requirement back in the day when it was 95 lol. You'd have to speak to whoever is in charge of the prgram.
I'm not sure of the exact numbers for physio, maybe have a look on the website. As for Med, on last check there was about 300. It is hard to say what the cutoffs will be as the first round of Med students will enter the MD next year, so we'll get a pretty good idea of cutoffs around September when interviews are offered. Most medical schools would require a 60+ (~75th percentile) GAMSAT and 6+ GPA to be competitive. At some of the more competitive medical schools, such as Sydney, UQ and most likely Melbourne next year, you would want 6.5+ gpa and 65+ GAMSAT (~90th percentile). However there are a lot of people who get in with 55+ GAMSAT and 5.5+ GPA with a strong interview at schools such as University of Notre Dame (in fremantle and sydney), which is one of the less (bus still quite) competitive med schools.

ok thanks for that, i just checked the website and they still have the example of the kid who is a kld and is from an underrepresented school, so he can get in on a 90

also, would monash be classed as "competitive"?
I would rather stay in vic, so if physio is what is has to be i would still be extremely happy with that

[iamdan08]

just to confirm, if anyone knows, do kldys still get in on a 90?
I was told this when I received the award, but due to the high demand i wouldn't be surprised if they dogged it haha
btw, this thread has definitely turned my attention, i went off it for a bit because of the reasons shilayli suggested, but this reassures my passion!
Also, how many spots are open to graduate physio and med and what sort of gamsat results would you need to be getting? I'm presuming physio would be less than med, so if anyone knows roughly the scores needed for each?
Thanks

I'm not 100% sure about the kldys. I was one, but i met the ENTER requirement back in the day when it was 95 lol. You'd have to speak to whoever is in charge of the prgram.
I'm not sure of the exact numbers for physio, maybe have a look on the website. As for Med, on last check there was about 300. It is hard to say what the cutoffs will be as the first round of Med students will enter the MD next year, so we'll get a pretty good idea of cutoffs around September when interviews are offered. Most medical schools would require a 60+ (~75th percentile) GAMSAT and 6+ GPA to be competitive. At some of the more competitive medical schools, such as Sydney, UQ and most likely Melbourne next year, you would want 6.5+ gpa and 65+ GAMSAT (~90th percentile). However there are a lot of people who get in with 55+ GAMSAT and 5.5+ GPA with a strong interview at schools such as University of Notre Dame (in fremantle and sydney), which is one of the less (bus still quite) competitive med schools.

ok thanks for that, i just checked the website and they still have the example of the kid who is a kld and is from an underrepresented school, so he can get in on a 90

also, would monash be classed as "competitive"?
I would rather stay in vic, so if physio is what is has to be i would still be extremely happy with that

Monash hasn't been known to be super competitive. However the grad course is not in clayton, it is in Gippsland. you would probably want 60+ GAMSAT and 6.0+ GPA. Keep in mind the figures i give are only very, very rough estimates, and change year to year. Also if you have a higher GAMSAT you can have a lower GPA and vice versa. What also needs to be taken into account is the fact that with the MD coming in and an extra 300 medical school spots, entry cuttoffs could change quite a bit at all the medical schools. I am very interested to see what happens as a result of the new MD.

[Russ]

I remember looking at the kldys program booklet and seeing a specific note that it didn't apply to biomed, but that was a long time ago so it may well have changed.

The official info on requirements can be found on ACER's website (http://gamsat.acer.edu.au/images/documents/graduate_admission_guide_2011.pdf). It's a long (mostly boring) document but it has a lot of info in it. Everyone I've spoken to seems to agree that there will be a slight drop in the average requirements due to melbourne offering a new program and taking more students.

[luken93]

Hi Luke,
 
If you are a KLD and come from an underrepresented school you are eligible for entry into Biomedicine with an ATAR of 90, despite the clearly-in rank at that time. We also have a selection guarantee through Access Melbourne, at which point, if you qualify for any of the 9 categories, you may be eligible for entry with a lower ATAR score than the clearly-in rank. You can find more information about the program and the categories at the website below:
 
http://www.futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/ugrad/accessmelb

ok so it still applies, until next year anyway

[Slumdawg]

Hi Luke,
 
If you are a KLD and come from an underrepresented school you are eligible for entry into Biomedicine with an ATAR of 90, despite the clearly-in rank at that time. We also have a selection guarantee through Access Melbourne, at which point, if you qualify for any of the 9 categories, you may be eligible for entry with a lower ATAR score than the clearly-in rank. You can find more information about the program and the categories at the website below:
 
http://www.futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/ugrad/accessmelb

ok so it still applies, until next year anyway

Is that cheating the system Luke? haha. I'd feel so guilty for not trying as hard this year cos I know I'd only need 88 to get in cos we go to a "underrepresented" school. It would play on my conscience way too much. But if it gets you in and you're desperate then go for it. You'll get the enter for biomed without access melb stuff helping you out anyway, considering how much our chem teacher raves about you! He's brought you up 3 times now in class. He sure does love people who work ahead, doesn't he? I thought you were planning on monash med?

[Russ]

I don't consider it cheating the system, neither does anyone I know. The changed requirements are there for a reason (I applied through SEAS, turns out that I didn't actually need it, but I don't feel that I took a place unfairly)

[iamdan08]

You could say that everyone who can afford to go to a private school is getting into Biomed unfairly over those who can't (thus the point of SEAS). And it isn't cheating the system, because that is the system!

[luken93]

adrian, look at it this way, our school's english is stopping us from getting anywhere decent hahahah
and secondly, i was looking at the advantages of bein a kld, but underrepresentation is a bonus!
and finally, i wish he'd be quiet, how much of an inspiration can I be to you year 12's?
I mean, fair enough being an inspiration if you have finished and got a good score, but I'm a long way off that!

[Russ]

You could say that everyone who can afford to go to a private school is getting into Biomed unfairly over those who can't (thus the point of SEAS). And it isn't cheating the system, because that is the system!

SEAS is for other things as well

[luken93]

also, at the end of the year when people want to know what you got for your ATAR, just tell them you got into biomed at unimelb hahahaha

[Slumdawg]

our school's english is stopping us from getting anywhere decent

That is true, our english department is absolutely shocking, but one guy got 45 last year. Anything is still possible, just gotta work harder then other people who have english teachers that actually teach you. Our school isn't that bad but I guess if you want good scores you need to do a lot of your own independent study, our teachers can help you out but they are surely preparing most students to get in the very low 30s for most subjects (excluding bus man and a couple of others).

You could say that everyone who can afford to go to a private school is getting into Biomed unfairly over those who can't (thus the point of SEAS).

Never thought of it that way haha. Good point. I can understand it for underrepresented schools but I don't think my school is bad enough to be classified in that category, and yet it still is.


I think I will try to forget about the whole 88 enter requirement and still aim to get in on the clearly in rank. May as well still try my hardest.

[Slumdawg]

also, at the end of the year when people want to know what you got for your ATAR, just tell them you got into biomed at unimelb hahahaha

Sneaky, but I like the idea. Most people wouldn't even know that our school would get a bonus anyway, perfect plan. I know Haileybury Girls College got a bonus because it was a "new" school, seems like Melbourne is just giving these bonuses away!

[luken93]

That's definately a downfall, but for most of my subjects the teachers would secretly love a 50 rather than everyone getting above 30 (methods, chem, busman), but yeh, im gonna start doing english tutes next term with sever so hopefully i'll be able to improve, and maybe with a bit of luck, become nick mack and get a 45 hahahah
and don't worry, I'm still gonna go for that 98, I simply couldn't just ease off, because I'd fear I'd let off too much, and plus, I wanna beat everyone hahahah

Good luck anyway, I'm sure you will get close, just stick with Selina hahahha

 

[Slumdawg]

and don't worry, I'm still gonna go for that 98, I simply couldn't just ease off
 

That's good. For a while it sounded like you were gonna just cruise through and that would have been a waste. Yer with english, tutes are okay. The teachers go on tangents wayyy too much. I went to the 1984 one before our essay and all they were talking about were wars that were completely irrelevant to any of the essays topics and didn't seem to make much sense. I'd just write essays and go to the tutorials and get them to give you advice otherwise you might be wasting your time. Go to one tutorial and you will see what I mean.