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[99.00]

Hi. Does anybody mind Eplaining to me what this all means?
http://www.bcom.unimelb.edu.au/apply/entry-requirements.html

Whats the difference between "clearly in atar" and "guarenteed atar"

It says that: This is an indicative score only, and changes each year according to the number of places available, the number of applicants and the quality of their applications.
Then it says: If students achieve an ATAR or notional ATAR of 95.00 or above and satisfy the course prerequisites, they will be guaranteed a place in the BCom.


So is an Atar of 95.00 guarenteed to get into Commerce at melbourne next year? Thanks for replies

[Jenny_2108]

Hi. Does anybody mind Eplaining to me what this all means?
http://www.bcom.unimelb.edu.au/apply/entry-requirements.html

Whats the difference between "clearly in atar" and "guarenteed atar"

It says that: This is an indicative score only, and changes each year according to the number of places available, the number of applicants and the quality of their applications.
Then it says: If students achieve an ATAR or notional ATAR of 95.00 or above and satisfy the course prerequisites, they will be guaranteed a place in the BCom.


So is an Atar of 95.00 guarenteed to get into Commerce at melbourne next year? Thanks for replies

"2013 Guarenteed ATAR" means the ATAR you should aim for this year to get into this course but it can change slightly
"2012 Clear-in-rank" means the ATAR requirement of last year

[99.00]

Oh ok. I know that theres no way to know exactly what next year's clearly in is...but what would be the absolute max it could be?
Is there any records of past years' clearly ins were? So i can compare..

[nisha]

It varies. I know I wanted to do Science at Melb, which had a clearly in in the 80's, i think it was around 87-88 for a few years. This year its 90-91.

[99.00]

It varies. I know I wanted to do Science at Melb, which had a clearly in in the 80's, i think it was around 87-88 for a few years. This year its 90-91.

How can I check the clearly ins for past years?

[max payne]

Hi. Does anybody mind Eplaining to me what this all means?
http://www.bcom.unimelb.edu.au/apply/entry-requirements.html

Whats the difference between "clearly in atar" and "guarenteed atar"

It says that: This is an indicative score only, and changes each year according to the number of places available, the number of applicants and the quality of their applications.
Then it says: If students achieve an ATAR or notional ATAR of 95.00 or above and satisfy the course prerequisites, they will be guaranteed a place in the BCom.


So is an Atar of 95.00 guarenteed to get into Commerce at melbourne next year? Thanks for replies

"2013 Guarenteed ATAR" means the ATAR you should aim for this year to get into this course but it can change slightly
"2012 Clear-in-rank" means the ATAR requirement of last year

Im curious too...When you say slightly, can it change by say 1 Atar point? Or do they already have an idea of the clearly in Atar for 2013 when making the minimum Atar for 2013

[Greatness]

Wow they've made a guarantee ATAR for entry... It means that if you complete an Australian Year 12, or the IB in Australia, in 2012 and achieve an ATAR or equivalent of 95.00 then you will be guaranteed a position in B.Comm in 2013.
The clearly in is the cut off, so the lowest ATAR you can get to get an offer for the course. If you're below the clearly in and don't have SEAS then you can pretty much say good bye to entry into that course. IIRC the clearly in for 2010 for B.Comm was 94.15~ give or take 0.3 and it was 95.45 last year.

I don't see how they can have a guaranteed entrance scheme, in the extreme case where say all students who achieve 95.00+ apply for B.Comm do they only accept the maximum number of students they're allowed to or would they have to accept all since it's 'guaranteed'.

[99.00]

Wow they've made a guarantee ATAR for entry... It means that if you complete an Australian Year 12, or the IB in Australia, in 2012 and achieve an ATAR or equivalent of 95.00 then you will be guaranteed a position in B.Comm in 2013.
The clearly in is the cut off, so the lowest ATAR you can get to get an offer for the course. If you're below the clearly in and don't have SEAS then you can pretty much say good bye to entry into that course. IIRC the clearly in for 2010 for B.Comm was 94.15~ give or take 0.3 and it was 95.45 last year.

I don't see how they can have a guaranteed entrance scheme, in the extreme case where say all students who achieve 95.00+ apply for B.Comm do they only accept the maximum number of students they're allowed to or would they have to accept all since it's 'guaranteed'.

This is what confuses me...If it really is a guarenteed Atar, then how can they be sure that the right number of students will apply?
Also is this the first year where they've made a guaranteed Atar?

[Hancock]

It's probably just a typo. They can't set a guarantee on an minimum ATAR score before uni offers because they don't know how many people will apply. If they have space for 1500, and 3000 people apply with ATARs over 95, they can't accept them all.

BTW, your 99.00 should get in to Comm at Melb.

[aaackk]

Isnt the guaranteed entry scores set cos of unlimited CSP funding from the government from 2013? They mentioned this at the commerce department at UoM open day earlier this year, and the lady said "if you put commerce as your first preference and you get 95.00 atar, you will be guaranteed a place". so it's pretty legit.

[aaackk]

If they have space for 1500, and 3000 people apply with ATARs over 95, they can't accept them all.

arent there only about ~2500 people that get above 95 anyway?

[Greatness]

I think so. Last year was only guaranteed entry if you scored over 93.00 or something in the low 90s and you had SEAS.

[Greatness]

Isnt the guaranteed entry scores set cos of unlimited CSP funding from the government from 2013? They mentioned this at the commerce department at UoM open day earlier this year, and the lady said "if you put commerce as your first preference and you get 95.00 atar, you will be guaranteed a place". so it's pretty legit.

Ohh yeah I remember reading about something like that last year, that the government would let the universities select the amount of students they can accept which would mean that they take as many students as they like.
omg.... more jaffys!.. lol

[99.00]

Isnt the guaranteed entry scores set cos of unlimited CSP funding from the government from 2013? They mentioned this at the commerce department at UoM open day earlier this year, and the lady said "if you put commerce as your first preference and you get 95.00 atar, you will be guaranteed a place". so it's pretty legit.

Ohh yeah I remember reading about something like that last year, that the government would let the universities select the amount of students they can accept which would mean that they take as many students as they like.
omg.... more jaffys!.. lol

wow. If this is true I would beover the moon! Please someone who knows about this stuff confirm this.
ps. 99.00 is a goal that I don't think I will even get close to it or am even capable of doing so Your 99 sure looks good though..

[Greatness]

It looks like that is the case from reading that, but give the university a call tomorrow or email to see if it's true.
It would mean that the cut off/clearly in would be 95.00 (unless they include SEAS applicants or accept students in the 93-95 range if there is less demand than expected)