What is the key to getting 90+ ATAR? Does school effect ATAR?

[Habibti]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to know how difficult it is to get a 90+ ATAR and what s required for it? Is VCE all about time management, memorisation and work ethic? Also does the quality of the school you attend and the the teachers effect your learning? For example, if my teachers teach poorly and I study super hard outside of school, will I still be able to achieve my desired score (My score is notorious for being bad)? How much of it is determined by yourself? Lastly, how important do you guys think tutors are?

Thanks in advance.

[Bri MT]

VCE is about a lot of things (mainly time management and work ethic IMO), but if you are determined to do well, and you prepare and study you should be able to. In regards to your school, it doesn't make things easier but it is still possible to do well. I go to a school which is very underrepresented (most get below 50 and none get above 90) and for the subject I did last year I got a study score of 47 (I was one of two people at the school to get a score above 40). I did have a good teacher, and I did not do any tutoring.     

Hope that helps

[Buddster]

What is the key to getting 90+ ATAR?

In terms of technicality, an aggregate of over 160 usually does it. What does that mean? It means you need your top 4 subjects with an average of 40 scaled, and any bottom 2 subjects to help toe the line. How do you achieve that? Well it depends mainly on your subjects. In general terms, you need a good exam mark and to be one of the top people in your class in terms of SACs. If you're at a bad school, then the SAC component should be easy if you work hard and do independent learning. If your school is good, the exam component should be easier. You generally need an A-A+ on each of your GAs to get a 40. GAs are the 3 sections that go towards your study score, generally a combination of your scaled SACs and exams. Getting a 90+ is completely possible from homeschooling (like our atarnotes hero: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/vce-results-homeschool-hero-20151214-gln7g5.html )

[Joseph41]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to know how difficult it is to get a 90+ ATAR and what s required for it? Is VCE all about time management, memorisation and work ethic? Also does the quality of the school you attend and the the teachers effect your learning? For example, if my teachers teach poorly and I study super hard outside of school, will I still be able to achieve my desired score (My score is notorious for being bad)? How much of it is determined by yourself? Lastly, how important do you guys think tutors are?

Thanks in advance.

Hey, Habibti! Welcome to ATAR Notes - and great question.

It's pretty hard to objectively say how difficult it is to hit 90+. It's almost like asking, "how hard is it to consistently shoot three-pointers in basketball?" There are so many factors at play. Is the ball sufficiently pumped? Is the ring tight or loose? How skilled are you at sports? Have you been practising? How strong are you? Is it windy? And so on and so forth.

Similar thing with VCE.

As you identify, your school will probably play some sort of role in determining scores, but by no means is it the be all and end all. If your teachers are terrible but you still work hard, can you still achieve your dream score? Absolutely! Without question.

Teachers can be important, but much more important is your own work ethic, your dedication, your time management and so on. You are in charge of your VCE - not your school, not your teachers. You.

Stick around on the forums - this is the perfect place to ask your questions, particularly if you're concerned with where your school's at. Again, welcome aboard!

[coolbook]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to know how difficult it is to get a 90+ ATAR and what s required for it? Is VCE all about time management, memorisation and work ethic? Also does the quality of the school you attend and the the teachers effect your learning? For example, if my teachers teach poorly and I study super hard outside of school, will I still be able to achieve my desired score (My score is notorious for being bad)? How much of it is determined by yourself? Lastly, how important do you guys think tutors are?

Thanks in advance.

How difficult it is depends on the amount of effort you put in year 12, and how effectively you study. It's how well you study, not how many hours you study. VCE is mainly about time management, work ethic etc. Memorisation isn't THAT important, but it's still somewhat important. You can still achieve any atar you want regardless of having bad teachers or a school that isn't academically good. Most, if not all of it, is determined by the amount of effort YOU put in year 12. Tutors are somewhat important, like if you find a subject really hard, then a tutor will be helpful, if you find a subject fairly easy, then you don't really need a tutor for that subject. Good luck for year 12