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Unit 4 questions thread
« on: July 13, 2012, 11:53:21 am »
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Hi guys, my first question for unit 4:

Would the equilibrium expression still be the same if the equation was reversed?

e.g wA+xB <--> yC

k=[C]y/([A]wX[B ]x)

but if the eqn was reversed i.e yC <--> wA + xB

Would the equilibrium expression still be  k=[C]y/([A]wX[B ]x)?
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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questons thread
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 12:38:40 pm »
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Let's call the new K for equilibrium Kn.
Kn=K^-1

And you multiply [A]^q with ^x not add them

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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questons thread
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 01:27:12 pm »
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Or you can start from scratch, to find the equilibrium constant by
Which shows how the new K is related to the initial K
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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questons thread
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 02:18:31 pm »
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Thanks guys, i forgot that when u reverse the eqn, u simply take the reciprocal of the original equilibrium expression. And yeh the denominator should have been multiply, that was a typo.
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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questions thread
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2012, 10:27:06 pm »
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Lead acid accumulator question

From neap study guide
Q) Write the equation  occurring at the cathode while the cell is recharging.
A) PbSO4(s)+H++2e---->Pb(s)+HSO4-

From checkpoints
Q) Give the equation of the reaction that occurs at the negative electrode when the accumulator is being recharged.
A) PbSO4(s)+2e---->Pb(s)+SO42-

The first question asks for at the cathode and the second question asks for the negative electrode(anode) so why are the equations the same? Which one is correct?

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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questions thread
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2012, 05:04:29 pm »
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In a particular galvanic cell, as current is drawn the cell reaction occurring is
Ag2O(s) + Zn(s) ---> 2Ag(s) + Zn(OH2)(s)

Give the eqn for the reaction occurring at the anode and cathode.

Could someone please show me how to split it into the two separate eqns. I don't know how to do it correctly. :(

I got:
Zn + 2H2O ---> Zn(OH)2 +2H++2e-
Ag2O +2H+ +2e- ---> 2Ag + H2O

but answers have it as:
Zn + 2OH- --->Zn(OH)2 +2e-
Ag2O +H2O +2e- ---> 2Ag +2OH-



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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questions thread
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2012, 08:09:19 pm »
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In galvanic cells, why must the oxidant and reductant not come into contact? What happens if they do contact?
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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questions thread
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2012, 09:49:09 pm »
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Why does your school study so fast? Mine has just finished AOS1

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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questions thread
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2012, 10:09:36 pm »
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Why does your school study so fast? Mine has just finished AOS1
Nah we're not fast, we skipped ch 23,24,25 and will come back to it. They wanted to get the topics which require more conceptual understanding out of the way first.
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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questions thread
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2012, 04:39:26 pm »
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In galvanic cells, why must the oxidant and reductant not come into contact? What happens if they do contact?


They must be kept separate so that they do not react directly - that would use up all your energy source at once, and potentially generate a lot of heat, which all together is a waste (because they are usually used as an energy source for a long time).
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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questions thread
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2012, 05:45:09 pm »
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Probably a simple question but i donno why it is:

Why can't Al be deposited from aqeous solutions of Al3+ ?

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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2012, 09:01:08 pm »
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Al can't be deposited because if you look at your electrochemical series, water (at -0.83V) is a stronger oxidant than Al3+ and will reduce in preference to Al3+. the word 'solution' refers to involving water.
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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questions thread
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2012, 09:09:43 pm »
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Al can't be deposited because if you look at your electrochemical series, water (at -0.83V) is a stronger oxidant than Al3+ and will reduce in preference to Al3+. the word 'solution' refers to involving water.
Oh ok thank you, but how do you know which water eqn to look at? I can see 4 on the electrochemical series that contain water.
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2012, 09:13:47 pm »
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Al can't be deposited because if you look at your electrochemical series, water (at -0.83V) is a stronger oxidant than Al3+ and will reduce in preference to Al3+. the word 'solution' refers to involving water.
Oh ok thank you, but how do you know which water eqn to look at? I can see 4 on the electrochemical series that contain water.

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Re: Soccerboi's unit 4 questions thread
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2012, 09:20:13 pm »
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oxidant you usually look at -0.83V and for reductants you would usually look at +1.23V (as a generalisation). yet to fail on me!
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