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Re: Random math questions
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2012, 07:54:57 am »
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thanks FlorianK

any ideas on how to do the nasty integral? one of my mistakes was assuming |sin(x)cos(x)|sin(x)cos(x) is the same as sin(x)^2*cos(x)^2...that's the last thing i integrated before changing variables and getting the above erroneous answer

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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2012, 08:04:52 am »
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nope, because the derivative of arcsin(2x-1) is



That confuses me

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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2012, 08:20:08 am »
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fwah?  i got for that derivative.

edit: which i think is equivalent to what you got
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Re: Random math questions
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2012, 02:53:01 pm »
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thanks FlorianK

any ideas on how to do the nasty integral? one of my mistakes was assuming |sin(x)cos(x)|sin(x)cos(x) is the same as sin(x)^2*cos(x)^2...that's the last thing i integrated before changing variables and getting the above erroneous answer
That took a while, hopefully there are not errors in there...

Anyways, the train of thought, try to work on the to make it into something that we can doa  trig substitution with. Do the trig sub, using the right substitution so that we get something else out that we can work with, here that is . Use the double angle formula for cos to bring it down to something we can integrate, then expand it out and split it up, working on each part. Start subbing back through the variables, and when we encounter the cos inside the sin and such, draw out a triangle to find the equivalent expression. Then keep subbing back through the variables to finish it off.


There will be domain restrictions that arise when you manipulate the triangle aswell, but anyways... after typing all that out... Anyways, hope it helps :)

Also had a feeling that hyperbolic functions may have helped at one stage... but looking back it it maybe not.
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Re: Random math questions
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2012, 09:32:32 pm »
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@dcc: how did you choose 10 and how do you the inequality is true?

triangle inequality gives you

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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2013, 03:08:45 pm »
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Haha mad props b^3, didn't realise you'd written all that up (have images disabled on my phone, but tex usually). You wouldn't happen to know why WolframAlpha gives a completely different answer would you?

triangle inequality gives you

Thanks dcc...haven't thought about that one in a while >.<

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Evaluate the line intgral where C is the right half of the circle

I got 2/5, book gives 1638.4 which doesn't look right...


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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2013, 03:43:00 pm »
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x^2 + y^2 = 16
parametrise it:
x=4cos(t), dx/dt = -4sin(t) for -pi/2 ≤ t ≤ pi/2
and, y=4sin(t), dy/dt = 4cos(t) for -pi/2 ≤ t ≤ pi/2

since, ds = sqrt((dx/dt)^2 + (dy/dt)^2)dt = sqrt(4^2(cos^2(t)+sin^2(t))dt = 4dt
int_c xy^4 ds = int_(-pi/2)^(pi/2) 4(4cos(t))(4sin(t))^4 dt = 1638.4
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Re: Random math questions
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2013, 03:56:27 pm »
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Thanks polar, I was missing the 4 in the parametrisation

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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2013, 03:35:01 pm »
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Found this one on another site

Find the range of k for which the inequality for all x

Not sure how to find k if cos(x) is an element of [-1, 1]

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2013, 06:48:51 pm »
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I did this by analysing the graph of y = cos^2(x)+cos(x)

cos^2(x)+cos(x) has a maximum value of 2, so you can have k = -0.5 (which would give you -0.5 x 2 + 1 = 0). If k is greater than this you'll get a positive number, e.g if k = -0.25 you'll have -0.25 x 2 + 1 = 0.5. So we need to have -0.5 ≤ k. There is also an upper bound on k, though, which we need to find.

cos^2(x)+cos(x) reaches a minimum of -1/4, so you can have k = 4 (this would give you 4 x -0.25 + 1 = 0). If k is greater than 4 you will get a negative number, but if it is less than 4 you'll get a positive number, so it holds for k < 4 as well.

So, the range of values of k is [-0.5, 4]

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Re: Random math questions
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2013, 06:30:15 pm »
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Ah, get it now. Thanks a lot Calvin Climb

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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2013, 03:42:48 am »
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How do you find the limit as x approaches 0 from the left hand side of


This comes from trying to evaluate the improper integral

EDIT: fixed latex
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Re: Random math questions
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2013, 04:57:46 pm »
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Fairly rusty on this so I hope I don't break any rules here but we can apply L’Hopital’s Rule, that is
(although I have a feeling that it may not be the right form for this.... but anyways)

We can rewrite what we have as

Then applying the rule

Now as , , so . That is


Hope I haven't stuffed up, may want to get a more seniour member to check it over.
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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2013, 04:50:48 pm »
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Thanks again b^3!

How would you evaluate by writing the integrand as an integral (so does it becomes a double integral?)? I only know how to do the long way by parts

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Re: Random math questions
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2013, 10:17:29 am »
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How do you evaluate ?

Am I supposed to try and get into the form of a geometric series or something? The second term starts on e^(1/2) so the first term of the answer would be e cause there's no e (then the rest cancel), but not sure how the 1 comes in.

(solution is e-1)