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2009 VATE Lectures
« on: October 11, 2009, 04:47:55 pm »
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For those who attended the VATE English Language lectures, how did you find it?  My day went:

1.  Exam/Essay
2.  Spoken
3.  Written

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2009, 05:36:33 pm »
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Same set up for me
essay felt like such a drainer, but i sorta had high expectations before walking in
spoken was okay but notes weren't all that great
Written the lecturer tells us to use vn to collaborate lol

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2009, 05:40:44 pm »
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i had same order as you guys
wasn't as good as i thought it would be
exam/essay went on forever especially the part where the lady asked us to write the How, What, Why things and everyone just started talking for like 10 mins
written notes were the best but i didn't like how small they are and the slideshow set out
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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2009, 05:53:27 pm »
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for the essay one.,..
aparently you HAVE to use the stimulus material , i cant find this on the VCAA anyone help?

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2009, 05:58:25 pm »
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Yeah, I thought written's notes was the best but I reckon the lecturer for spoken was the best.

Written the lecturer tells us to use vn to collaborate lol

Yeah, I heard that as I walked out and I was like, "Hmmm...  Maybe she might be reading the thread I'm going to make." (which is this one lol)

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for the essay one.,..
aparently you HAVE to use the stimulus material , i cant find this on the VCAA anyone help?

Some of it isn't even on the exams because of "copyright" so you'll have to find someone with the actual copy of the exam.  At least last year's stimuli wasn't.
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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2009, 05:58:48 pm »
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chum the stimulus material is just the stuff u see in the essay section above the question
the quotes from random people and stuff is the stimulus

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2009, 06:06:13 pm »
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Yea you have to use the stimulus this year - you can see the exam covers at: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/exams/examcovers/2009examindex.html

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Section 3 requires a sustained expository response. Answer one question in this section. In your
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and the topics of Unit 4 ‘Texts in their Australian Contexts’. In your response you must refer to the
stimulus material provided. Section 3 is worth 40% of the total marks.

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2009, 06:55:10 pm »
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thanks meepcat (Y).
btw whats VN. i dont go on this often

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2009, 06:55:55 pm »
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thanks meepcat (Y).
btw whats VN. i dont go on this often
abbreviation for VceNotes :P

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2009, 06:56:19 pm »
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lol thought so

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2009, 07:12:08 pm »
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The spoken language lecturer was fantastic - he reignited my waning interest in the area of study.

The essay section was a bit disappointing though - I'd rather have spent more time breaking down essay topics and discussing the facets of each outcome than talking about how to tackle the exam.

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2009, 07:37:13 pm »
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u read my mind

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2009, 07:38:34 pm »
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http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php?topic=17782.msg180936#msg180936

my review...

that lecture was a drainer,

exam
spoken
written

so much sh*t in written that i reckon we won't have to know from the notes/powerpoint. who makes questions without solutions. fml.

the lady in exam part spoke at a constant tone, so irritating and boring as well ==' . felt sleepy after having a coffee prior to walking in.

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2009, 08:54:45 pm »
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I think the lectures could have been a lot better.

For spoken and written, I think they could have looked through past exam papers and pulled out some poorly answered questions. Perhaps they could have then shown us how they would have answered the question to get full marks. A lot of the theory is stuff we can revise on our own time. Lecturers need to recognise this and gear their lecture towards information we are unlikely to find on our own or by presenting stuff that isn't just in our textbooks (Such as interpreting exam questions and then the best strategies to answering them).

The handout for written text was comprehensive and contained some new terms that I have never seen before. The problem I found was that the lecture component didn't really add anything to the notes. A lot of the time I found she was just reading out what were on the handouts, which is again something we can do in our own time.

No suggested responses to the set questions is also a bit of a bummer. It's difficult to tell if your answering questions correctly without an example to check afterwards.

This wasn't so much of a problem in written text. The lecturer kept things a bit more interesting although his notes were no where near as comprehensive.

The essay component was a huge disappointment. This was the section I was most looking forward too and it was so shallow and basic you could basically get the same thing from reading exam reports/exam guides. It would have been much more interesting and valuable if she took a look at some exam questions and listed some of the ways you could address the question - what to bring up in your essay etc. Perhaps she could even mention some specific contemporary issues that are relevant to the essay topic or have elements which could be incorporated into the topic.

Overall I really wasn't that impressed by the lectures. If you haven't studied all year and know very little about the course, then I could see them being useful to you. Otherwise, it would be much better value to just write practice essays/do practice exams.

The spoken language lecturer was fantastic - he reignited my waning interest in the area of study.

The essay section was a bit disappointing though - I'd rather have spent more time breaking down essay topics and discussing the facets of each outcome than talking about how to tackle the exam.

Out of curiosity were you the girl that said hi at the written lecture (Session1) sitting in the 4th - 5th row in the middle section? If so, I was the Eurasian guy from Box Hill High.

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Re: 2009 VATE Lectures
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2009, 09:06:41 pm »
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Twas me, twas me. I was the lone year 11 from my school attending :(

Edit: I still think that the spoken lecturer was interesting. Perhaps it's just me (I've been feeling as though all of the life's been sucked out of the subject), but his fascination with language as a mirror of interaction was contagious.
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