Detailed Study/General Convo

[brightsky]

'Twas wondering, when did you guys start writing up the detailed study and general convo, and when did you start memorising? Also, around how many words were the finished products?

Thanks in advance. 

[iffets12345]

LOL...bad memories about detailed study, but I had an alright memory so I memorise as I go along, its more fun anyway. I wanted to start in like march, no kidding, but it was even up until now last year (June) when I finally decided what I actually wanted to do.
I reckon you should have already bits of general convo in a folder because it's simple things that you can keep adding to over the weeks. I finished my detailed study around august-september.

BUT MOST IMPORTANT:

general conversations and Detailed studies NEVER END. keep adding to them! When i say i "finished", it wasn't completed, I kept changing things and trying to add more or make it more sophisticated. same with general conversation as there's a lot you can add onto or conversation strategies to figure out.

I did the panda and I had about 10 questions per subtopic...but I think you might need to have more. The answers must all be around a paragraph unless you're leading it somewhere else.

Other than that, don't take my word for gospel cause I got a 32 lol.

[tram]

LOL, yup totes agreed iffets, detailed study IS A BIATCH, like INSANE. I personally hate the oral exam cso i'm reli reli *shite* at memorising stuff. I prefer thigns like maths where it's more application of thign rather than mamorising slabs of info. Esp cos i'm like lote-illeterate, like i FAIL at all lotes. Nywz, what ic an tell you, is that i started preparing my general convo at abotu term one holdays, by the end of the term one holidays, i had the bulk of my general convo writtern out, then, like iffets, i just like added to it as i went. I started detalied study mid way thu the year and again, just added to it as i went.

i probsstarted memorising general convo mid way thu the year, but like it was not till third term holdays that i really put the accelerator on and did loads of it. I would suggest starting earlier so you can really consolidate it. Tbh, i hated chinese, i alws pushed it to the bottom fo the pile, and i mean it can lowed as a prioroty than my 1/2s, that is until third term holdays.

PLEASE do not not do what i did, start memorising general convo especially superrrrrr earli, cos it really helps with ur essay writing as well.

As for words......don't worry about it, just make sure you can anwser each question with a decent 30 second anwser. and come up witha MINIMUM 10 questions for each delatied study sub topic, and you should get a list of questiosn for the general convo from ur teacher.

Have fun!

[brightsky]

You've done your general conversation already, AzureBlue!? MOGZ!

[liv]

i think you should be finishing off your answers to detailed study questions, and have already written at least basic answers to all the general convo questions. don't worry about the amount of words (i think i ended up with about 4000 words for my detailed study at the end of the june holidays last year, but it changes so much as you practice all you really need to relaly be concerned with is how long/short your answers are.). my finished product for deatiled study was 10 pages, and general convo i think about 7? but one of my classmates had 3 pages for detailed study, he did ok, so it really doesn't matter too much.

and then to practice- my teachers forced me to start practicing when i hadn't even memorized anything yet, and i think that actually helps because you learn to think on your feet. and memorize things quicker because its a crap feeling to not know the answers to easy questions.

[tram]

my teachers forced me to start practicing when i hadn't even memorized anything yet, and i think that actually helps because you learn to think on your feet. and memorize things quicker because its a crap feeling to not know the answers to easy questions.

well that can happen, OR you can just become really demoralised and feel like crap and hate chinese

[liv]

my teachers forced me to start practicing when i hadn't even memorized anything yet, and i think that actually helps because you learn to think on your feet. and memorize things quicker because its a crap feeling to not know the answers to easy questions.

well that can happen, OR you can just become really demoralised and feel like crap and hate chinese

yes. which is what happens. but strangely, through that hate comes a memory of why you hate it and thus you remember things better
thats my theory anyways.
i hated chinese.

[tram]

my teachers forced me to start practicing when i hadn't even memorized anything yet, and i think that actually helps because you learn to think on your feet. and memorize things quicker because its a crap feeling to not know the answers to easy questions.

well that can happen, OR you can just become really demoralised and feel like crap and hate chinese

yes. which is what happens. but strangely, through that hate comes a memory of why you hate it and thus you remember things better
thats my theory anyways.
i hated chinese.

you hated chinese and got 43.....hmmmm if only that worked with me and english

[iffets12345]

liv are u serious! u hated it? I thought u liked it and thats why u got 43. Most of us asian kids got forced to do it you see so I thought u had some passion for chinese culture.

I was really not good at asian languages and was in love with french at the time which exacerbated my contempt for chinese.
But I think the detailed study was the main reason I hated it, ironically enough my teacher liked my preparation for it, but i was too preoccupied thinking about humiliation in front of stern chinese examiners.

[tram]

liv are u serious! u hated it? I thought u liked it and thats why u got 43. Most of us asian kids got forced to do it you see so I thought u had some passion for chinese culture.

lol, prettttyyyyy much

[liv]

liv are u serious! u hated it? I thought u liked it and thats why u got 43. Most of us asian kids got forced to do it you see so I thought u had some passion for chinese culture.

I was really not good at asian languages and was in love with french at the time which exacerbated my contempt for chinese.
But I think the detailed study was the main reason I hated it, ironically enough my teacher liked my preparation for it, but i was too preoccupied thinking about humiliation in front of stern chinese examiners.

ok. so. i did like it. before my parents made me do chinese unit 3&4. and yes, there are some non-asian parents who make their kids do chinese. like mine. chinese was ok except i became really stressed because of it and became really sick all the time. i wanted to do politics, but no, it had to be chinese and spesh. so, i was never passionate about it, really, but my parents were, and so by the end of the year i gave up trying to fight my parents and just studied.

[iffets12345]

That is pro of you. I was never good at it, and I was stressed about it, it made me sick too but not as bad. I just think I felt I wasn't as good as people who went to other better schools, like Xin Jin Shan (not sure if you went there?). Despite having a good teacher in the last year, it was too last minute all the cramming she tried to give us and we only got 4 scores over 30...pretty lame.

[liv]

That is pro of you. I was never good at it, and I was stressed about it, it made me sick too but not as bad. I just think I felt I wasn't as good as people who went to other better schools, like Xin Jin Shan (not sure if you went there?). Despite having a good teacher in the last year, it was too last minute all the cramming she tried to give us and we only got 4 scores over 30...pretty lame.

yes i went there. so i ended up with 3 teachers.

how come you crammed so much?

[iffets12345]

well, in my school, from year 1 to year 6 you learn nothing.... and then its year 7, 8 then straight to VCE>
So this teacher, was very smart, she got a 50 in first language chinese, she knew the course.
And she knew, the stuff we had learnt from young was a total waste and we were not up to par with you guys.
So basically the whole year, or one and a half years (we had her in year 11) was cramming us with info to try and be at least on the same average as you guys...
she tried her hardest, but our foundations were crap..

[iffets12345]

no its a saturday class, they had their system like this- year 1- year 7. Then you have PreVCE and then VCE.
In year 1-7, the stuff we learnt was only vocab, we didn't learn anything complex that was good for VCE, so we were all shit.
like some people didn't know what the word for table was.
my poor vce teacher! it wasn't even her fault.