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jfaure

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Standarisation and Varieties
« on: April 22, 2008, 08:36:09 pm »
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i have this question to answer, it is

Write a sustained expository response about the following topic. In your response, you are expected to demonstrate your ability to use relevant descriptive and metalingustic tools. You will need to refer to at least 3 subsystems of language.

"Regardless of the different variations in English, Standard English remains the most prestigious". Discuss

i dont know where to start  :tickedoff: Any help??
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Re: Standarisation and Varieties
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2008, 08:57:49 pm »
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Is standard australian english the most prestigious in all situations? Can other varieties be better to use?

Obviously a lot of the time SAE is and you would want to use it (say why).
There are also a lot of situations where you obviously *wouldn't* want to use it. Do you use full sentences every single time when talking to your mates? This also goes off into stuff like in some groups you'd look like you were being a pretentious snob if you used standard language.

By the end of the year you'll know the basic ideas from which all essays are based and know the general case to argue (eg you *could* say SAE remains the most prestigious but I found at least that I had a certain formulated opinion of everything which wasn't exactly mine). It'll probably take you days to write up an essay now but by the end of the year you will be able to churn them out in 55 minutes like you need to (only to promptly forget all your examples again like I have)
Oh thats the other thing - include examples. Preferably not the same ones that appear in the Heinemann text book (as nearly everyone has that) but you don't have to be all fancy complicated with them, just be slightly different. If they sound stupid and obvious, include them anyway.


I don't know how many essays you've done so far: "In your response, you are expected to demonstrate your ability to use relevant descriptive and metalingustic tools. You will need to refer to at least 3 subsystems of language." essentially translates to 'Use metalanguage. Don't forget there are things outside the discourse' (there is more than simply the words people use). Not all the time it will be appropriate to include all of them, don't go absolutely nuts trying to cover them evenly, but you can see how you could include non standard pronunciation and syntax etc for a few sentences.

I hope a bit of that helps. If you need ideas I can go dig up my book and have a squiz for stuff.

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Re: Standarisation and Varieties
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2008, 09:54:49 pm »
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thanks for that, it helped get some ideas for me. Also, just wondering, how often did you write practice essays when you did this subject because it is driving me insane taking 2 hrs to do an essay.
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cara.mel

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Re: Standarisation and Varieties
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2008, 10:10:42 pm »
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To be honest, it would have taken me longer than 2 hours to write them at this time of year (unless in a SAC, then I miracously could write in the given time frame)
I also maybe did 2 or so practise essays before each SAC (which was 2 more than everyone else) and that was it until october. So on average, once every 3-4 weeks?

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Re: Standarisation and Varieties
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2008, 10:23:16 pm »
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farr enouf ... yer i wanna write 1 lyk once everi 2 weeks, but i got no time lol
jus lookin at da subjects u did, n dere all da same as mine (cept chinese) do u tutor lol .... coz u did lyk 4 of da subjects im doin lol
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Re: Standarisation and Varieties
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2008, 10:08:19 am »
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Nope I don't.
There are people here that could do the maths/physics/chem part.
As for english language, it's like my weakest subject and I have nothing to do with it again now vce is finished and I think I'm moderator by default. :P

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Re: Standarisation and Varieties
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 05:35:39 pm »
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farr enouf ... yer i wanna write 1 lyk once everi 2 weeks, but i got no time lol
jus lookin at da subjects u did, n dere all da same as mine (cept chinese) do u tutor lol .... coz u did lyk 4 of da subjects im doin lol
sorry mate, whilst it does highlight the feature of teenspeak, your speech is akin to:
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,1549.msg21761.html#msg21761

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