Further or Specialist

[Collin Li]

You can do all three maths, but only two of them will be allowed in the primary four.

[dusty_girl1144]

just wondering, can you do all three maths (methods,further, spesh) or does vcaa not allow it?

will it count towards your ENTER? or will one of the maths be counted as not applicable or as a compulsory 7th subject? 

from what i know. you CAN do all 3 maths. but no more then 2 can be counted in your top 4 resulting study scores. this mean for example.

you do further, methods and specialist

but in ur top 4 for your ENTER you may only have the combination of 2

eg. english
     specialist
     further
     other sub

you cannot have all 3 in ur top 4, but it is included in urover all ENTER with your 10% addition per sub

[lacoste]

you cannot have all 3 in ur top 4, but it is included in urover all ENTER with your 10% addition per sub
[/quote]

You can do all three maths, but only two of them will be allowed in the primary four.

So the top two are counted as primary four, but the bottom is STILL counted as a 6th or 5rh subject?

does anyone have the link to vcaa? im just concerned just in case they wont allow it due to a sudden change + also the teachers dont seem happy to allow it!!

[dusty_girl1144]

you cannot have all 3 in ur top 4, but it is included in urover all ENTER with your 10% addition per sub

You can do all three maths, but only two of them will be allowed in the primary four.

So the top two are counted as primary four, but the bottom is STILL counted as a 6th or 5rh subject?

does anyone have the link to vcaa? im just concerned just in case they wont allow it due to a sudden change + also the teachers dont seem happy to allow it!!

that is correct. there was a link on another thread that had the vcaa thingy on it. i'll try find it

but dont listern to teachers >.> do whatever you like

but like some have pointed out.
further is pretty competitive. its hard to get a 50 study score as u can hardly drop ANY MARKS!

[Flaming_Arrow]

just wondering, can you do all three maths (methods,further, spesh) or does vcaa not allow it?

will it count towards your ENTER? or will one of the maths be counted as not applicable or as a compulsory 7th subject? 

yes they will allow it but only 2 maths can be in your top 4, ur 3th math will be 5th or 6th

[Mao]

also, only 3 subjects from the same KLA can be counted towards the ENTER.

http://www.vtac.edu.au/pdf/publications/abcofscaling.pdf

There are some restrictions on how certain combinations
of studies may be counted for your ENTER.
In each of the study areas of English, mathematics, history,
information technology, LOTE (Languages other than
English) music and VET:
»» at most two results can contribute to the Primary Four
»» at most three results can contribute to the ENTER, the
third being counted as a 10% increment for a fifth or
sixth study
If your ENTER incorporates an Extension increment from
any of the study areas of mathematics, English, LOTEs,
music, history or computer science/information technology
then no more than two VCE results from the same study
area can be used in the calculation of the ENTER.
There are other specific restrictions where two or more
studies have similar content, or where studies have been
combined.
Note that commencing with the 2008 ENTER calculation,
there will be no restrictions on the number of VET results
that can be counted in the ENTER.

[lacoste]

ok thanks !!!

and is english next year (2009) counted as a MUST primary 4 or can it be counted a 5/6th sub?
 
will it ever change?

[Flaming_Arrow]

its counted in primary 4 regardless of you study score in it
i dont think so

[dusty_girl1144]

i dont think it will change because english is a COMPULSARY subject.

so study hard :p

[Mao]

and is english next year (2009) counted as a MUST primary 4 or can it be counted a 5/6th sub?

it will count in top 4, until sometime late this year / early next year when the rumour starts [again, as usual] that it can be kicked out, then after a week of excitement, reality crushes and it is back into top 4.

yes

and no, it will never change.

[lacoste]

ahhh, thanks Mao.

p.s: english is fun when theres a debate in the classroom with the teacher!

[Collin Li]

The rule actually changed in 2007, to allow the top 2 (any of the maths) in the primary four. Previously the rule was that only one of either Further or Specialist was allowed in the primary four (no rules on Methods). I believe this rule affected Brendan in 2006.

[droodles]

i dont think it will change because english is a COMPULSARY subject.

so study hard :p

YEAH ENGLISH IS SO COMPULSORY BECAUSE IT HELP MAEK SPELLYNG GEWD YU NOE

[*Roxxii*]

Yeah, i thought that rule (only one of Further or Specialist is allowed in the primary four) applied to me too

I only found out half way through the year that it is now any two of the maths

[dusty_girl1144]

i dont think it will change because english is a COMPULSARY subject.

so study hard :p

YEAH ENGLISH IS SO COMPULSORY BECAUSE IT HELP MAEK SPELLYNG GEWD YU NOE

well now everyone knows what type of study score im gonna get