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« Reply #105 on: June 13, 2012, 09:33:15 pm »
Hey guys, this is probably gonna be a weird question...but with Q7 of MC, the one about enzymes, did you not find it a bit ambiguous? :P

Because one of the options talked about 'the substrate forms bonds with the active site', but it didn't specify what bonds...like, it could have been permanent bonds, or temporary bonds, or anything!

And if it were PERMANENT bonds, then that statement would have been wrong...meaning option A would have been correct. The reason its concerning me more is because in a previous VCAA exam (i think 2009), in a MC question similar to these, they talked about enzymes specifically forming TEMPORARY ion-dipole bonds, or some shiz like that...

I'm probably reading too much into it, but yah :)

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« Reply #106 on: June 13, 2012, 09:35:16 pm »
Bonds are bonds are bonds are bonds are bonds are bonds are bonds are bonds are bonds (not the underwear brand btw)! The fact that it forms any bonds at all probably validates that statement. I think the trick intended there was for students to think that the substrate fit into the enzyme simply because its shape was complementary to the active site, where as it was this and inter-molecular bonding.
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« Reply #107 on: June 13, 2012, 10:16:25 pm »
What do you guys think an A+ will be?

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« Reply #108 on: June 13, 2012, 10:26:48 pm »
Question 1b SA

Anyone else noticed the C=C instead of a C=O on the bottom third of the triglyceride? XD

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« Reply #109 on: June 13, 2012, 10:37:27 pm »
yea, the examiners found out halfway through, didn't even notice it lol
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« Reply #110 on: June 14, 2012, 06:25:48 am »
with 5iii) wat i did was write down 3 and 2 assuming two carbon atom on each side 3*2=6     and n+1   therefore 6+1 =7 so septet would that be counted as wrong ?? oh god!!

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« Reply #111 on: June 14, 2012, 07:30:22 am »
For the CH3CH2OH(aq) + CH3CH2COOH(aq) -----> CH3CH2COOCH2CH3(aq) + H2O(l):

Will I lose a mark for that not being all (l). Because I thought that if water was produced, that means that they would be aqueous? I know I'm wrong, but how am I wrong?

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« Reply #112 on: June 14, 2012, 02:27:17 pm »
why wasnt it 360mg ?  :-\

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« Reply #113 on: June 14, 2012, 02:32:44 pm »
why wasnt it 360mg ?  :-\

The concentration was 360mg/L, however the question said that each tablet was dissolved in 100mL of water. Therefore it was 360X0.100L, which equals 36mg.

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« Reply #114 on: June 15, 2012, 01:22:07 pm »
For the CH3CH2OH(aq) + CH3CH2COOH(aq) -----> CH3CH2COOCH2CH3(aq) + H2O(l):

Will I lose a mark for that not being all (l). Because I thought that if water was produced, that means that they would be aqueous? I know I'm wrong, but how am I wrong?

Oh, because not enough water is produced to form a proper aqueous solution - you'd need a lot of water relative to other compounds to form a real aqueous solution. Anyhow, the water produced is just absorbed by the H2SO4 catalyst (which is an awesome dehydrating agent).
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« Reply #115 on: June 15, 2012, 01:41:33 pm »
I put option A for question 5 because technically, it is the hydrogen bonding between -NH and -C=O, not -CO. Is this ambiguity or my not knowing how to read questions?
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« Reply #116 on: June 15, 2012, 02:27:50 pm »
I put option A for question 5 because technically, it is the hydrogen bonding between -NH and -C=O, not -CO. Is this ambiguity or my not knowing how to read questions?

CO often implies C=O, like for instance HCOOH --> the CO refers to C=O.
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« Reply #117 on: June 15, 2012, 02:39:42 pm »
how do we get consequencial marks in a chemistry exam, because i put down propanol instead of propan-1-ol, and i did the same thing in the flowchart that describes how we could extract pure propyl propanoate, but when i write down the semistructural formulae, i put down propan-1-ol. would i loose alot of marks for this?

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« Reply #118 on: June 15, 2012, 02:41:27 pm »
how do we get consequencial marks in a chemistry exam, because i put down propanol instead of propan-1-ol, and i did the same thing in the flowchart that describes how we could extract pure propyl propanoate, but when i write down the semistructural formulae, i put down propan-1-ol. would i loose alot of marks for this?

Probs lose only 1 mark for that.
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« Reply #119 on: June 20, 2012, 06:59:21 pm »
Quick question

I've made the dumbest mistake and read that graph wrong and i got 38mg instead of 36 but i showed all my working out so the examiner will realise it was because i read it wrong...
what do you reckon will happen? Will i drop 1 mark or 1/2 mark??? or 2 marks?

Thanks :)