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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1740 on: March 31, 2017, 01:40:41 pm »
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Hey there,

Could someone please explain what happened in the last two lines of the provided working?
I'm just not sure how they changed -pi/6 to 11pi/6 I understand it's got to do with using pi/6 in the 4th quadrant but I don't know why they did this extra step  ???

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1741 on: March 31, 2017, 01:58:00 pm »
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Hey there,

Could someone please explain what happened in the last two lines of the provided working?
I'm just not sure how they changed -pi/6 to 11pi/6 I understand it's got to do with using pi/6 in the 4th quadrant but I don't know why they did this extra step  ???

Thank you!

Hey! So presumably we are solving for 0 to 2pi, that negative answer is NOT in that range! So we need to write it differently, and how do we change the way an angle is written without changing its value? We add 2pi (0 and 2pi being the same thing is the easiest example of that) - So adding 2pi to -Pi/6 is what gives us that answer, by bringing the angle into the required range

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1742 on: March 31, 2017, 02:10:39 pm »
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Hi guys,

Could anyone help me with this problem?

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« Reply #1743 on: March 31, 2017, 02:13:49 pm »
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Hi guys,

Could anyone help me with this problem?

Hey bud! Not at my computer right now, but hint in the meantime: it's the auxiliary angle method! Or the t method, alternatively!

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1744 on: March 31, 2017, 02:17:45 pm »
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Hey bud! Not at my computer right now, but hint in the meantime: it's the auxiliary angle method! Or the t method, alternatively!

Alright, thank you.

How would you use auxiliary angle for this?

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1745 on: March 31, 2017, 02:39:02 pm »
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Alright, thank you.

How would you use auxiliary angle for this?
Jamon overlooked something

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« Reply #1746 on: March 31, 2017, 02:42:15 pm »
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Alright, thank you.

How would you use auxiliary angle for this?

Alright I'm back!



Make the LHS of that equivalent to \(A\sin(2x-\alpha)=A\sin{2x}\cos{\alpha}-A\cos{2x}\sin{\alpha}\). As is normal for this method, we get two equations:



Solve them simultaneously to find \(A=\sqrt{2},\alpha=\frac{\pi}{4}\). So we rewrite the equation as:



And then you solve that as a normal trig equation! Remember, solving for \(0\le x\le2\pi\), you need to solve for double that for \(2x\), that is: \(0\le2x\le4\pi\) :)

I've assumed a few bits of knowledge up there, not sure how familiar you are with the method and some of its peculiarities, anything about it unclear? I'm happy to clarify if so ;D

Edit: Auxillary is probably the more standard approach for the question type, but Rui's given you an alternative that works on the double angle results, both valid, if you use this one do check your answers match ;D

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1747 on: March 31, 2017, 03:23:35 pm »
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Edit: Auxillary is probably the more standard approach for the question type, but Rui's given you an alternative that works on the double angle results, both valid, if you use this one do check your answers match ;D
My intuition (and by consequence my recommendation) is based off the fact that the constant term vanishes when applying double angle results. Provided the constant term is set to vanish it is superior; else auxiliary angle is the best way to go

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1748 on: March 31, 2017, 07:21:50 pm »
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Hey! I dont understand this perms and coms q... at all (esp part a)

From an unlimited supply of 14 different books, it is desired to make up parcels containing r books, all different.

a) For what value of r will there be as many packets as possible, all with different contents?
b) How many such packets will there be?
c) How many of these would contain one particular kind of book?

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1749 on: March 31, 2017, 08:21:11 pm »
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Hey! I dont understand this perms and coms q... at all (esp part a)

From an unlimited supply of 14 different books, it is desired to make up parcels containing r books, all different.

a) For what value of r will there be as many packets as possible, all with different contents?
b) How many such packets will there be?
c) How many of these would contain one particular kind of book?

Thanks for any help! I just hate this topic so much zz
Assuming packets and parcels are the same thing.

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I will let you consider c) first by yourself. It may help to once again consider examples. Or maybe the subcases of r=1, r=2, r=3, ...

To make life easier, you may, without loss of generality, consider only book A. Because books B, C, D, etc. will follow the same rule.

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1750 on: March 31, 2017, 10:31:28 pm »
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Alright I'm back!



Make the LHS of that equivalent to \(A\sin(2x-\alpha)=A\sin{2x}\cos{\alpha}-A\cos{2x}\sin{\alpha}\). As is normal for this method, we get two equations:



Solve them simultaneously to find \(A=\sqrt{2},\alpha=\frac{\pi}{4}\). So we rewrite the equation as:



And then you solve that as a normal trig equation! Remember, solving for \(0\le x\le2\pi\), you need to solve for double that for \(2x\), that is: \(0\le2x\le4\pi\) :)

I've assumed a few bits of knowledge up there, not sure how familiar you are with the method and some of its peculiarities, anything about it unclear? I'm happy to clarify if so ;D

Edit: Auxillary is probably the more standard approach for the question type, but Rui's given you an alternative that works on the double angle results, both valid, if you use this one do check your answers match ;D


OHH I see.
Yes the solutions did do it Rui's way but I didn't really understand it at first.
Lol, didn't think a question could have so many different solutions. Even t method is available!

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1751 on: March 31, 2017, 10:35:52 pm »
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OHH I see.
Yes the solutions did do it Rui's way but I didn't really understand it at first.
Lol, didn't think a question could have so many different solutions. Even t method is available!
The formulas I applied are all on the reference sheet should you forget them in the exam.

Rest is just factorising and a typical process.

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1752 on: March 31, 2017, 10:42:31 pm »
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The formulas I applied are all on the reference sheet should you forget them in the exam.

Rest is just factorising and a typical process.

Yes, you explained it well the first time. I meant the solutions attached to the past paper didn't really suffice for me.
Thanks.

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1753 on: April 01, 2017, 08:24:20 pm »
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Hi again,

I'm confused with how the 2θ/sin(2θ)  plays in these solution. Does it equal one or something?
Question was to prove θ^2 times cosec^2(2θ) = 1/4
Could someone please help?

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1754 on: April 01, 2017, 08:28:11 pm »
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Hi again,

I'm confused with how the 2θ/sin(2θ)  plays in these solution. Does it equal one or something?
Question was to prove θ^2 times cosec^2(2θ) = 1/4
Could someone please help?

Yep, you're absolutely right! There is a relationship that, for very small theta,



So, if we just let theta equal two alpha, the relationship is also true for



Which is the same as the working out that you posted. Does that make sense?
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