Melbourne or Monash for commerce?

[MashiMaro780]

Hey guys,
I need help on deciding which uni to put down for my first preference. I missed Monash open day, but went to Melbourne's and I was quite impressed by the study environment/ atmosphere of the university. I haven't been to Monash, though I've been told that it is a bit run-down (I'm talking about Clayton campus here). But then, I really shouldn't be making a decision solely based on how the buildings look....

I can't decide which course to put first: B. Com at Melbourne or the B. Com/B. Arts double degree at Monash. They both sound like good courses, though I've been told than Melbourne is more analytical and Monash is more practical. I really want to do commerce and also study a language, and both unis allow me to do so (Monash through Arts double degree and Melbourne through Breadth tracks)

I know both unis have good reputation, though Melbourne might have slightly more prestige than Monash (and the Melbourne Model doesn't sound so bad, correct me if I'm wrong)

It takes me roughly the same amount of travel time, but Melbourne definitely has a better location.

What I really want to know is: Which uni offers more scholarships/bursaries? And which uni offers more incentives to go on exchange? I come from a financially disadvantaged family but I really want to study abroad. I'm not KLD and is hoping for an ATAR of around 95.

I'd appreciate any comments on which degree to put first, as well as any additional feedback on the two universities and the study experience in general. Thanks a lot!

[tram]

Hey guys,
I need help on deciding which uni to put down for my first preference. I missed Monash open day, but went to Melbourne's and I was quite impressed by the study environment/ atmosphere of the university. I haven't been to Monash, though I've been told that it is a bit run-down (I'm talking about Clayton campus here). But then, I really shouldn't be making a decision solely based on how the buildings look....

I can't decide which course to put first: B. Com at Melbourne or the B. Com/B. Arts double degree at Monash. They both sound like good courses, though I've been told than Melbourne is more analytical and Monash is more practical. I really want to do commerce and also study a language, and both unis allow me to do so (Monash through Arts double degree and Melbourne through Breadth tracks)

I know both unis have good reputation, though Melbourne might have slightly more prestige than Monash (and the Melbourne Model doesn't sound so bad, correct me if I'm wrong)

It takes me roughly the same amount of travel time, but Melbourne definitely has a better location.

What I really want to know is: Which uni offers more scholarships/bursaries? And which uni offers more incentives to go on exchange? I come from a financially disadvantaged family but I really want to study abroad. I'm not KLD and is hoping for an ATAR of around 95.

I'd appreciate any comments on which degree to put first, as well as any additional feedback on the two universities and the study experience in general. Thanks a lot!

In reference to your two main questions, i can't say for sure or compare, all i can say is that melboune have a *shite*load of scolarships, e..g the business/economics faculty is planning to raise 5 million dollars in the next 5 years JUST for commerce students, so if you deserve one, you'll get a scolarships, jsut make sure you apply for them all....

As for incentives to go on exchange, most people going on exchange get $2500 from the global mobility unit, granted that that's not going to be enough to get yout there and back, but it defs helps, moreover there are other grants and money you can get, especially if you go to certian unis for exhange.... Again, i can't comment on monash, but i would presume they would get about the same deal

[MashiMaro780]

In reference to your two main questions...

Hmmm okay, that makes sense.
I pretty much had my mind set on Monash before Open day, because so many people gave the Melbourne Model the thumbs down, but after going to Melbourne's Open day I wasn't so sure any more. Doing a double major that complements each other and a language or something for breadth sounds more appealing than a double degree, and doesn't take as long.

[mystikal]

In reference to your two main questions...

Hmmm okay, that makes sense.
I pretty much had my mind set on Monash before Open day, because so many people gave the Melbourne Model the thumbs down, but after going to Melbourne's Open day I wasn't so sure any more. Doing a double major that complements each other and a language or something for breadth sounds more appealing than a double degree, and doesn't take as long.

u realise you can still do that at monash? it just isnt emphasised like melbourne. so you can do a single degree commerce with a double major and use ur "breadth subjects" or we call it electives for a language

its the exact same thing.

[MashiMaro780]

In reference to your two main questions...

Hmmm okay, that makes sense.
I pretty much had my mind set on Monash before Open day, because so many people gave the Melbourne Model the thumbs down, but after going to Melbourne's Open day I wasn't so sure any more. Doing a double major that complements each other and a language or something for breadth sounds more appealing than a double degree, and doesn't take as long.

u realise you can still do that at monash? it just isnt emphasised like melbourne. so you can do a single degree commerce with a double major and use ur "breadth subjects" or we call it electives for a language

its the exact same thing.

Well I blame it on Melbourne and all their advertising ^^"
Now how am I supposed to deciiiide??? I really should've gone to the monash open day  *sob*
QUESTION: if you went to monash: why did you choose monash over melbourne?
and vice versa for the melbourne peeps.

[tram]

Well I blame it on Melbourne and all their advertising ^^"
Now how am I supposed to deciiiide??? I really should've gone to the monash open day  *sob*
QUESTION: if you went to monash: why did you choose monash over melbourne?
and vice versa for the melbourne peeps.

chose melbourne for

1) location, much easier to get to for me and it's just next to the city-just close to everything, it really is convenient, something you don't realise till you're there

2) course, it is significantly better, at least for actuarial studies. In general though, there is not a heap between the two uni in terms of course prestige, i would say melbounre is slightly better, but it depends on your perespective/area of focus, if you get god enouhg marks, melb/monash won't make a difference tbh

3) scholarship, my scholarship has been amazing, i have gotten soooo many contacts because of it, the money has just been a side thing

4) facilities, have you SEEN the spot/law building/new commerce library? now look at monash. i'll let you decide on this one

[mystikal]

monash

location,scholarship, easier to get into, alot of friends were in the course.

However, to be honest both melbourne and monash are good, i think wateva u choose will be a good decision.

[tony3272]

Although this is a bit off-topic, what is actuarial studies at monash like in comparison to melbourne?

[tram]

Although this is a bit off-topic, what is actuarial studies at monash like in comparison to melbourne?

I'm not sure how much you know about actuarial studies but basically there are three sets of exams you need to pass to become fully qualified. Melbourne students who do the three year bachelor program get exemption from most of part one and all of aprt one and two if they do the extra honors year. the program has been running for ages, and the centre has loads of experience.

Monash only just got exemption for part one this year, and not sure about two. essentailly melbounre have a much more respected actuarial program due to their experience. Going to melbounre will give you a better course for actuarial studies and it has more prestige in this area and you are much more liekyl to get the better jobs with a melbouren degree comapred to monash

[mystikal]

Although this is a bit off-topic, what is actuarial studies at monash like in comparison to melbourne?

I'm not sure how much you know about actuarial studies but basically there are three sets of exams you need to pass to become fully qualified. Melbourne students who do the three year bachelor program get exemption from most of part one and all of aprt one and two if they do the extra honors year. the program has been running for ages, and the centre has loads of experience.

Monash only just got exemption for part one this year, and not sure about two. essentailly melbounre have a much more respected actuarial program due to their experience. Going to melbounre will give you a better course for actuarial studies and it has more prestige in this area and you are much more liekyl to get the better jobs with a melbouren degree comapred to monash

agreed that melbourne has a more established acturial program and should go there if you want to major it. However, monash has a lot more majors on offer in the commerce field than melbourne.

A very good point about melbourne is that they have summer semester for commerce especially so u can fasttrack, or pace out your degree, or catchup from fails or under circumstances during those periods. They offer alot of their commerce units in the summer most of which are relevant like accounting, finance etc....

 Monash has that only for like ... random units in commerce like really random ones in the summer that arent worth doing .... or u can go to malaysia monash where they have more... but y go all the way to malaysia...

i know im a monash student but one of the things i cringe about that melbourne has is that summer semester option which has so many uses.

[tram]

Although this is a bit off-topic, what is actuarial studies at monash like in comparison to melbourne?

I'm not sure how much you know about actuarial studies but basically there are three sets of exams you need to pass to become fully qualified. Melbourne students who do the three year bachelor program get exemption from most of part one and all of aprt one and two if they do the extra honors year. the program has been running for ages, and the centre has loads of experience.

Monash only just got exemption for part one this year, and not sure about two. essentailly melbounre have a much more respected actuarial program due to their experience. Going to melbounre will give you a better course for actuarial studies and it has more prestige in this area and you are much more liekyl to get the better jobs with a melbouren degree comapred to monash

agreed that melbourne has a more established acturial program and should go there if you want to major it. However, monash has a lot more majors on offer in the commerce field than melbourne.

A very good point about melbourne is that they have summer semester for commerce especially so u can fasttrack, or pace out your degree, or catchup from fails or under circumstances during those periods. They offer alot of their commerce units in the summer most of which are relevant like accounting, finance etc....

 Monash has that only for like ... random units in commerce like really random ones in the summer that arent worth doing .... or u can go to malaysia monash where they have more... but y go all the way to malaysia...

i know im a monash student but one of the things i cringe about that melbourne has is that summer semester option which has so many uses.

does monash really offer that many majors that Melbourne doesn't?

[taiga]

Monash Comm (Single) scholarships start from 97.8 or something like that. They really take care of those students in that course as well.

There are also plenty of majors, plenty of international exchange opportunities etc. The Involvement groups are also amazing (MFA, SICC, BCSS) and can get you contacts with plenty of firms. There are also leadership programs which help you develop more contacts, and can even get you early work (I'm working doing social media marketing for a small firm as a result of my involvement with this stuff).

With regard to actuary if you start your degree next year you should be exempt from Part 1 and 2 by the end of your degree, but of course Melbourne has more experience with that stuff.

I really don't think the difference between Melbourne and Monash is that big if you're talking in terms of single degree commerce. They're both respectable universities. It's really going to be your own capabilities and experiences which will push you through to a great job.


THAT SAID, if I wanted to do single commerce, my opinion during year 12 would have led me to go to Melbourne (just because there's a higher ATAR cutoff).

[chem-nerd]

THAT SAID, if I wanted to do single commerce, my opinion during year 12 would have led me to go to Melbourne (just because there's a higher ATAR cutoff).

Which is a bit silly given that the UoM single only has a higher cutoff due to not offering doubles like Monash.

[mystikal]

Although this is a bit off-topic, what is actuarial studies at monash like in comparison to melbourne?

I'm not sure how much you know about actuarial studies but basically there are three sets of exams you need to pass to become fully qualified. Melbourne students who do the three year bachelor program get exemption from most of part one and all of aprt one and two if they do the extra honors year. the program has been running for ages, and the centre has loads of experience.

Monash only just got exemption for part one this year, and not sure about two. essentailly melbounre have a much more respected actuarial program due to their experience. Going to melbounre will give you a better course for actuarial studies and it has more prestige in this area and you are much more liekyl to get the better jobs with a melbouren degree comapred to monash

agreed that melbourne has a more established acturial program and should go there if you want to major it. However, monash has a lot more majors on offer in the commerce field than melbourne.

A very good point about melbourne is that they have summer semester for commerce especially so u can fasttrack, or pace out your degree, or catchup from fails or under circumstances during those periods. They offer alot of their commerce units in the summer most of which are relevant like accounting, finance etc....

 Monash has that only for like ... random units in commerce like really random ones in the summer that arent worth doing .... or u can go to malaysia monash where they have more... but y go all the way to malaysia...

i know im a monash student but one of the things i cringe about that melbourne has is that summer semester option which has so many uses.

does monash really offer that many majors that Melbourne doesn't?

yea all the "non standard" ones like business law, HR manage, business modelling, sustanibility, international commerce.

[mystikal]

THAT SAID, if I wanted to do single commerce, my opinion during year 12 would have led me to go to Melbourne (just because there's a higher ATAR cutoff).

Which is a bit silly given that the UoM single only has a higher cutoff due to not offering doubles like Monash.

that is true, do not let ATAR requirement fully distinguish which course is better. because its all about supply and demand. FOR EXAMPLE if monash had 1000 apply for commerce(single degree) and they only accept 300 people and the lowest score to get in (without seas or wateva) is like 95.XX then the ATAR requirement would be around 95ish. So in a sense its the students who control  the ATAR requirement, does not necessarily mean one course is betta than the other just means that a large bulk of the students at uni of melb comm had atars of 94ish+ . hope that helps.