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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2007, 10:57:43 pm »
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Sounds okay to me. I mean, as long as it's in a well-ventilated area, and the school approves of it. Why should we stick our noses into a private matter?

When we try to substitute individual responsibility with government care, we only turn a personal mishap into a national tragedy.


But if one student can do it, do you think all students should be allowed to?


Exactly. My teachers have always said, don't eat in class unless everyone is allowed to. Or you bring enough for everyone >_>;

Wait, is that even related?




so.. its ok to smoke weed in class as long as you bring enough to get everyone fucked? :P haha i dont think that applies itself so well here!


Lol, well, it made sense in my head. I mean, the whole, "one person can get high, so why can't we all" concept xD
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2007, 11:03:33 pm »
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I have no problems with people getting high, but classroom rules are different, because you're on school grounds... it's particularly a concern in a non-ventilated area like a classroom.

The no eating rule is fair enough, or they'd have to hire cleaners, and the mess could get unbearable. It's their property, so they do have rights to restrict you from doing particular things on it.

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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2007, 11:05:53 pm »
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I have no problems with people getting high, but classroom rules are different, because you're on school grounds... it's particularly a concern in a non-ventilated area like a classroom.

The no eating rule is fair enough, or they'd have to hire cleaners, and the mess could get unbearable. It's their property, so they do have rights to restrict you from doing particular things on it.


and smoking is bad for the environment! ha. gotcha

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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2007, 11:08:51 pm »
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I have no problems with people getting high, but classroom rules are different, because you're on school grounds... it's particularly a concern in a non-ventilated area like a classroom.

The no eating rule is fair enough, or they'd have to hire cleaners, and the mess could get unbearable. It's their property, so they do have rights to restrict you from doing particular things on it.


and smoking is bad for the environment! ha. gotcha


Hehe, that's a different issue. I think cigarettes should be taxed (which they are) because of their pollutive effects.

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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2007, 11:13:40 pm »
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Hehe, that's a different issue. I think cigarettes should be taxed (which they are) because of their pollutive effects.


But will this money repair the irreparable?

Which reminds me, once I sold smokes to this guy, who was complaining about the taxes on smokes 'bla bla the govt is stealing my money' and I just smiled, but I was thinking of course they are taxed you idiot, do you know how much you smokers cost our health system!? some people..

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2007, 11:14:36 pm »
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I have no problems with people getting high, but classroom rules are different, because you're on school grounds... it's particularly a concern in a non-ventilated area like a classroom.


haha i wasnt seriously suggest anyone get stoned at school. i was just making a joke haha.

i keep laughing when i see that picture of the mother. id say shes got bigger problems than just the cigarettes haha

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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2007, 11:14:49 pm »
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Hehe, that's a different issue. I think cigarettes should be taxed (which they are) because of their pollutive effects.


But will this money repair the irreparable?

Which reminds me, once I sold smokes to this guy, who was complaining about the taxes on smokes 'bla bla the govt is stealing my money' and I just smiled, but I was thinking of course they are taxed you idiot, do you know how much you smokers cost our health system!? some people..


Well, I'm not concerned about the health system, because ideally I wouldn't have the health system socialised.

I just think the tax on cigarettes should pay for the pollution.

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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2007, 11:16:59 pm »
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I have no problems with people getting high, but classroom rules are different, because you're on school grounds... it's particularly a concern in a non-ventilated area like a classroom.


haha i wasnt seriously suggest anyone get stoned at school. i was just making a joke haha.

i keep laughing when i see that picture of the mother. id say shes got bigger problems than just the cigarettes haha


Yeah, I wasn't really taking it seriously, haha. Other people seemed to like the lines of "if others can do it, so can I" and started extending it to some other situations, so I thought I'd remind them that in-classroom is different to clinical smoking breaks.

I don't see why the girl couldn't have been put on Nicorette gum or something though. Oh well, that's the school's problem to deal with.

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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2007, 11:20:32 pm »
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Well, I'm not concerned about the health system, because ideally I wouldn't have the health system socialised.

I just think the tax on cigarettes should pay for the pollution.


So you'd prefer a user-pays health system like in America?

Also, I don't think money could really compensate for the polltuion. But I've probably gone off track haha

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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2007, 11:25:43 pm »
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Well, I'm not concerned about the health system, because ideally I wouldn't have the health system socialised.

I just think the tax on cigarettes should pay for the pollution.


So you'd prefer a user-pays health system like in America?

Also, I don't think money could really compensate for the polltuion. But I've probably gone off track haha


America is on socialised welfare now, I think. A user-pays system could work better:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul339.html

About pollution: it's not really the money that is supposed to fix pollution, but the tax is supposed to disincentivise the purchasing of cigarettes, to encourage more people to quit, so that the number of smokers go down, and pollution will be cut down to a "socially optimum" value (which is more of a microeconomics concept, may sound bizarre).

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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2007, 11:40:48 pm »
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but if cigarettes are addictive then that means its demand is fairly inelastic. All that increasing the price does is mean the people who buy them have a much lower purchasing power. If u 'need' something, and its price increases, u cant do shit unless there is viable alternatives which there arent. for chain smokers, the need for a cigarette would be as great as like the need for food. so if we increase the price for food, we'd all be fucked but our demand wuoldnt change much.


as for the girl, capital punishment for being a burden on the planet?


Haha, well that just means we should hike up the price of cigarettes a lot! :P

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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2007, 11:41:18 pm »
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Hehe, that's a different issue. I think cigarettes should be taxed (which they are) because of their pollutive effects.


But will this money repair the irreparable?

Which reminds me, once I sold smokes to this guy, who was complaining about the taxes on smokes 'bla bla the govt is stealing my money' and I just smiled, but I was thinking of course they are taxed you idiot, do you know how much you smokers cost our health system!? some people..


Well, I'm not concerned about the health system, because ideally I wouldn't have the health system socialised.

I just think the tax on cigarettes should pay for the pollution.


   wtf? As if cigarettes are a major polluter.
          Unless you're talking about passive smoking/

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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2007, 11:42:14 pm »
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Hehe, that's a different issue. I think cigarettes should be taxed (which they are) because of their pollutive effects.


But will this money repair the irreparable?

Which reminds me, once I sold smokes to this guy, who was complaining about the taxes on smokes 'bla bla the govt is stealing my money' and I just smiled, but I was thinking of course they are taxed you idiot, do you know how much you smokers cost our health system!? some people..


Well, I'm not concerned about the health system, because ideally I wouldn't have the health system socialised.

I just think the tax on cigarettes should pay for the pollution.


   wtf? As if cigarettes are a major polluter.
          Unless you're talking about passive smoking/


Well, there's certainly some sort of negative effect on people other than the consumer and the seller, so there must be some tax to compensate for this.

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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2007, 11:53:14 pm »
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Quote from: "coblin"
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Quote from: "coblin"

Hehe, that's a different issue. I think cigarettes should be taxed (which they are) because of their pollutive effects.


But will this money repair the irreparable?

Which reminds me, once I sold smokes to this guy, who was complaining about the taxes on smokes 'bla bla the govt is stealing my money' and I just smiled, but I was thinking of course they are taxed you idiot, do you know how much you smokers cost our health system!? some people..


Well, I'm not concerned about the health system, because ideally I wouldn't have the health system socialised.

I just think the tax on cigarettes should pay for the pollution.


   wtf? As if cigarettes are a major polluter.
          Unless you're talking about passive smoking/


Well, there's certainly some sort of negative effect on people other than the consumer and the seller, so there must be some tax to compensate for this.


  So were you referring to passive smoking :?: