What can science lead you to?

[Mr Edwards]

What can a 3 year bachelor of science course lead one to become if they were to end their education after the course?

[Gloamglozer]

What can a 3 year bachelor of science course lead one to become if they were to end their education after the course?

A wide variety of jobs or further research options.  All depends on what you're interested in, what you genuinely want to pursue and ultimately, what you major in.

Perhaps we can help you.  What fields of science are you interested in?

[TrueLight]

this is more for the biomed type sciences. don't know about the other ones like maths etc...

Researcher
Industry

are the main types i can think of although you really do need either an honours or masters to become a research assistant otherwise your stuck as a technician doing crappy jobs.. and it will increase your chance of getting a job in industry as well

and theres there other spin offs
like Biotech or Pharmaceutical Rep... a scientific writer... and then theres like the business sides to things...teaching of course... and others like patent law but i think you got to do more study into that.

http://bitesizebio.com/2008/01/03/alternative-careers-for-scientists/

[Mr Edwards]

Perhaps we can help you.  What fields of science are you interested in?

umm...i'm not sure
i'm doing yr 12 now and i like bio and chem and I can see myself doing something related though not too sure what exactly.
how much more in-depth does the course go with these subjects?
Is the first year bio and chem a lot more complex than VCE level? Or is it just basically a repeat of it?
Also, how qualified can you be in your job with only 3 years of study? Does this restrict in how competent you can become in your chosen profession?

[TrueLight]

first year is pretty much like vce with a few things added in
its in your second and third years you learn much more

if you like bio + chem

you can do biochem!

i havent done any biochem but they use a lot of molecular techniques like micro students.

in my sense of it ... its better or at least increases your skills set as well as the likelihood of being employed somewhere half decent if you do further study

skim through the biochem honours projects if the stuff there interests you then you'll probably like biochem... it has pretty pictures
http://www.med.monash.edu.au/biochem/teaching/honours-book2011.pdf

[Mr Edwards]

first year is pretty much like vce with a few things added in
its in your second and third years you learn much more

So basically if you have a strong foundation in year 12 chem and bio would first year be a waste of time? If I were to just get the textbooks for 2nd year science would I have trouble with it? is it possible to skip first year science?

if you like bio + chem
you can do biochem!

what can biochem lead you to? is this a second year subject for science?

[TrueLight]

well its not a waste of time because you learn how uni is like and the types of assignments you do etc.

you don't really need textbooks unless your using it often.. just borrow

hmm you probably won't struggle because they go through the basics at the beginning of second year to refresh your memory

you can't skip first year science... they are prerequisite units for second year.

biochemistry is a major you can do
http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/2010handbooks/aos/sci-ug-biochemistry.html

jobs would be the same as my previous post


maybe troll through these threads where Bsc was dicussed. although it doesn't add much more
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,28421.30.html
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,7953.msg98741.html#msg98741
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,27312.60.html
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,28587.msg298040.html#msg298040
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,20462.0.html

[Edmund]

first year is pretty much like vce with a few things added in
its in your second and third years you learn much more

So basically if you have a strong foundation in year 12 chem and bio would first year be a waste of time? If I were to just get the textbooks for 2nd year science would I have trouble with it? is it possible to skip first year science?

if you like bio + chem
you can do biochem!

what can biochem lead you to? is this a second year subject for science?

VCE Chem and Biol is not as similar as you think compared to first year. First year subjects exposes you to a wider range of fields whereas VCE subjects focus on basic skills/concepts (e.g. doing stoichiometry over and over). Not to mention there will be different teaching and learning methods you will have to get used to in first year

Biochem is a specific field and majoring in it leads to further research or medical research.

[TrueLight]

well i did the nooby chem in first year and it was vce again maybe the other chm was much harder lol ... bio there is vce aspects in there
i dunno maybe cause i did them a while ago but yeah i just remember thinking we were learning similar things in vce

[Edmund]

There were so much plants and animals in first year Biol I nearly died.

[TrueLight]

haha yeah ... i remember dissecting a toad! and there were eggs in them ewww lol
urgh plants chuck up... although in virology we're isolating rna from virus infected plants and doing rt-pcr to detect it but yes plants are chuck up yuck

[slothpomba]

If you decide to stop your education after getting your Bsc your opportunities are pretty limited to mainly assisting people in labs, i know that sounds pretty clear cut but thats how it is. You wont be leading any cutting edge research teams or getting an uber high paid job (bsc in chem doing analytical is like 60k ).

I'd really recommend going for higher education and getting a masters or PHD in something, thats where its at.

[TrueLight]

so Mr Edwards you still thinking of doing BSc?

[TrueTears]

tbh... just doing science (i'm not that informed on other areas of science so i'll talk about the maths aspect of sci) won't really get you anywhere, except maybe after getting a phd you could do research or become a lecturer and if you are lucky (with good grades) you might be able to go into the commerce industry.

[Russ]

1st year subjects are really important because they'll introduce new concepts that you've never covered at school. When we say that it's just an extension of VCE, we mean that it's still the same amount of work. Just because you spend a week revising material from the last 12 months, doesn't mean you can cruise along. They're not hard, but you can't just skip straight to 2nd year (it's like going from year 10 to year 12).

Just a BSc won't really get you to a high paid job, you'll need some sort of graduate degree given the way the job market's going these days. Last year, chemistry graduates had a 77% employment rate and the average "biological sciences" wage was $45k for a first year out BSc graduate. (took those numbers from graduatecareers)

haha yeah ... i remember dissecting a toad! and there were eggs in them ewww lol

Dissecting a pregnant rat is where it's at. Swear to god, that thing had about a dozen babies in its horns, ugh.