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Mechanical or Civil engineering
« on: August 11, 2008, 11:15:55 pm »
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which is more easier (in terms of coursework/exams)/best for the future? Is civil more physics than mechanical? can someone explain the 2 differences and the advantages of each?
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Re: Mechanical or Civil engineering
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2008, 11:20:30 pm »
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civil imo
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Re: Mechanical or Civil engineering
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2008, 11:21:25 pm »
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civil seems to have more job opportunities than mechanical

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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2008, 01:28:33 am »
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Civil seems to always have a skills shortage, but I'm not sure if it means you'll be easily employed. A skills shortage is merely what its name suggests: a shortage of skills.

It could be that universities are not educating civil engineer graduates with the appropriate skills. That's just a possibility, and I haven't done any research into the matter, but I've heard anecdotes that are consistent with this.

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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2008, 10:07:37 pm »
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Skills shortage is just another way of saying that employers can't find enough people with the 'right' cultural fit. It has little to do with graduates lacking in technical ability/aptitude.

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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2008, 10:30:41 pm »
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Interesting, do you have any evidence for that?

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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2008, 11:31:52 pm »
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Of course I can't find any documentation stating those exact words. However, from what I can gather, I am not too far off target. In publications released by professional bodies (APESMA for example), I frequently see summaries of industry surveys stating that employers would have actually offered more graduate positions if they had found the 'right' people. The constant 'skills' shortage due to a lack of suitable graduates can't be an academic problem seeing that many people average over the widely used academic prerequisite of 65. I don't believe that it has anything to do with teaching material not being relevant enough to industry either. The fact is that most of the stuff that is taught in university has never been used in the workplace; you're going to be using FEA packages, not deflection and stress equations. It can't be expected that universities will invest in every possible software package that is used in industry. Universities can only teach the fundamentals and encourage the right type of thinking.

On top of all that, comments by careers advisors and responses from company reps about what they look for in graduates all point to the importance that firms place on cultural fit. I haven't seen anything which would suggest that there has been a consistent lack of graduates with the necessary level of technical aptitude over the last few years.

As for the topic: Most people I've spoken to say that civil is easier than mechanical.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2008, 12:05:51 am »
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what do you mean cultural fit??
I was planning to do civil engineer but :S
I want to be able to get a job after I finish my course!
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2008, 02:53:07 am »
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You will (hopefully) learn the meaning of terms like 'cultural fit' as you progress through your course. I don't want to give a definition since people have different interpretations of the term. If you want to know now then just ask people in the industry or career advisors.

But basically as long you have good interpersonal skills, decent marks (no, a pass average is not decent, you need at least a 65 average which isn't exactly hard to attain), participate in extracurrcular activities and can BS a bit you'll be fine in terms of getting a job. On a personal level I'm not exactly a big proponent of the extreme lack of emphasis (IMO) on academics but that's just how it is.

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Re: Mechanical or Civil engineering
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2010, 09:56:56 pm »
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Didn't want to start a new thread so I thought I'd bump this one.

Which engineering do you guys think offers the broadest career opportunities?  I've read everywhere that mechanical is the broadest of the two but it seems civil offers the most in terms of job availability. Which one would be easiest to get a job?

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Re: Mechanical or Civil engineering
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2010, 10:00:11 pm »
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In Australia, at this moment in time, it seems it is easiest to get a job with Civil.

Dunno about after you graduate though =p

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2010, 10:08:59 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2010, 02:03:41 am »
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did you know that if you're a girl and wanting to do masters of engineering, you can apply for Access Melbourne scholarships? it is apparently *unfortunate* for females to apply for a male dominant course
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2010, 08:08:34 pm »
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did you know that if you're a girl and wanting to do masters of engineering, you can apply for Access Melbourne scholarships? it is apparently *unfortunate* for females to apply for a male dominant course
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no wayyyyyy?
any link to this claim?

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Re: Mechanical or Civil engineering
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2010, 09:05:18 pm »
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I guess that's a plus for the guys doing engineering