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being a pilot as a hobby
« on: October 17, 2009, 03:58:15 pm »
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Is there a way to do pilot training while in uni studying?
i wanna do it as a hobby cuz it seems cool to ride planes...
itll also probably complement my future carreer (probably aerospace engineer).
also: i heard that training costs heaps .. is there a way to get it subsidized (maybe doing it through defence force or something)
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2009, 04:06:47 pm »
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If you want to be an aerospace engineer, are you planning to go to Monash or RMIT?  If you're planning on going to Monash, I heard that they have a program over there.

I'm not sure.  Maybe wait until admin reads this.  He'll definitely have all the info.  :)
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2009, 04:44:18 pm »
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Excalibur has experience with flying and has had many hours in the air, I think. Maybe you could kindly ask him =]
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2009, 08:36:27 pm »
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kinda related.... hmmm.. i wonder if microsoft flight simulator will compensate for real life flying lol...woo trust me to fly a plane when its going to crash
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2009, 08:39:56 pm »
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http://www.tvsa.com.au/ ! sounds awesome o_o
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2009, 02:40:51 am »
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From what I've heard, avoid TVSA.

You can easily do flight training with many of the schools at Moorabbin. I personally train at Tristar Aviation, but there are many options around and I would urge you to have a look around. I'd imagine most people training with recreational purposes in mind tend to fly part-time, about one hour a week. I'm working at this rate, and fitting it into Uni study quite nicely. You'll just need to either have the self-discipline to self-study the theory at home or arrange your time such that you can attend ground school for the theory components.

Here's some links to get you started (a lot of these sites are horribly designed, but yeah):

http://www.rvac.com.au/ - Royal Victorian Aero Club
http://mfs.com.au/ - Moorabbin Flying Services
http://tristaraviation.com.au/ - Tristar Aviation
http://melbourneflighttraining.com.au - Melbourne Flight Training

Unfortunately, flight training is an expensive hobby and it is not really something that can be subsided. Basically, it's around $200-300/hr (depending on the type of aircraft and who you fly with), and you'll need to have around 20-30 hours for your General Flight Progress Test (GFPT - allows you to take passengers around Moorabbin) and a similar amount for your Private Pilots Licence (PPL). To get your PPL, you're looking at around $10-15k depending on how fast you learn. Furthermore, the additional costs for gear like headsets and the costs that the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) slug you for your ASIC/AVID, SPL and Medical adds to the pain. I think I've spent nearly $4k already!

The only subsidy available really is to start off with the intention of completing a Commercial Pilots Licence, which is GST-exempt (so, effectively, 10% saving). Even then, you'll probably find that a good number of pilots are probably living below the poverty line...

You can join the Defence Force as a pilot, but I don't think they do part-timers. They also lock you in for 12 years or something, so it's probably not something for you.

@ dekoyl - I don't have that many hours! 12 hours is not that much!
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2009, 02:46:13 am »
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Quote from: TrueLight on October 17, 2009, 08:36:27 pm
kinda related.... hmmm.. i wonder if microsoft flight simulator will compensate for real life flying lol...woo trust me to fly a plane when its going to crash

No. It helps, but it does form bad habits. I started on flight sims too =(
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2009, 02:58:49 am »
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Also, feel free to follow/subscribe to my blog which (mostly) chronicles my flight training - The Flying Geek.
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2009, 10:33:37 am »
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thx for the info excal.
unfortunately i dont think my parents will approve spend 10K+ on anything other than uni for me..

Ill try to save up or something (though ive only got 1500)
The defence force seems too comitting and the thought of riding in supersonic jets :idiot2:...
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2009, 07:20:35 pm »
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If you have the will to save, it's probably one of the most amazing things you can do in your life.

As for the defence force, I reckon it would be cool! The time commitment is a bit iffy though :P
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2009, 07:24:44 pm »
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I dont need a plane to fly
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2009, 07:29:56 pm »
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Quote from: Excalibur on October 18, 2009, 07:20:35 pm
If you have the will to save, it's probably one of the most amazing things you can do in your life.

As for the defence force, I reckon it would be cool! The time commitment is a bit iffy though :P

Hmm... 12 years... you'd wanna be really dead-set on your career path, wouldn't you?
I suppose since it would take them a few years to train you up and a LOT of $$, they'd want to be sure that you'll be around long enough to get their money's worth.
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2009, 08:53:22 pm »
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Quote from: Fyrefly on October 18, 2009, 07:29:56 pm
Quote from: Excalibur on October 18, 2009, 07:20:35 pm
If you have the will to save, it's probably one of the most amazing things you can do in your life.

As for the defence force, I reckon it would be cool! The time commitment is a bit iffy though :P

Hmm... 12 years... you'd wanna be really dead-set on your career path, wouldn't you?
I suppose since it would take them a few years to train you up and a LOT of $$, they'd want to be sure that you'll be around long enough to get their money's worth.

Spot on :)
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2009, 02:33:02 am »
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Quote from: qshyrn on October 18, 2009, 10:33:37 am
thx for the info excal.
unfortunately i dont think my parents will approve spend 10K+ on anything other than uni for me..

Ill try to save up or something (though ive only got 1500)
The defence force seems too comitting and the thought of riding in supersonic jets :idiot2:...

Would be fun... in my opinion away.

That said, the RAAF don't just fly supersonic jets... don't forget aircraft like the C-130... extremely critical piece of hardware for military operations.
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Re: being a pilot as a hobby
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2009, 07:57:18 pm »
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If only I were in the US, I'd try get myself a gig on the U-2. Bloody awesome aircraft in my opinion...
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