Diploma of Education (DipEd)

[brendan]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23172235-13881,00.html

As for the diploma of education, Ms Stone described it as a "total waste of time"....

Now studying a bachelor of science to update her maths skills, Ms Stone said the diploma of education was an appalling academic experience that concentrated more on the use of academic language to espouse educational theories than the skills required to teach in the classroom.

"There's a confusion of purpose," she said.

"Most people would expect a one-year teacher qualification, particularly if it's mandatory, to make you classroom-ready, giving you practical skills. But most of what you do is highly theoretical, about education theory with subjects like adolescent development and the theory of self-identity."

[cara.mel]

This is another one of my 'I have nothing to back up my point of view but I have one anyway' posts:

When student teachers come through mum's school, what they learn in terms of how to shut up 25 teenagers etc doesn't work at all, and the teachers always have to tell them the RL way of doing things

[brendan]

u mean ur mum owns a school ?

[Collin Li]

Nah, she works at a school.

[Toothpaste]

A school with teenagers that never shut up.

[excal]

And fight back...?

[cara.mel]

I should have elaborated on my post.

Situation I was thinking of was:
Student teacher has been taught to simply wait for the kids to stop talking at start of lesson before starting, because that's what they've been taught to do.
Real teacher knows that that will never work.

[reg]

It does work caramel, because I have had teachers who have used the method.
You are correct in saying that it doesn't work on everybody, it requires a certain type of teacher and a certain type of student.

[midas_touch]

Also depends on how well like or respected the teacher is, and the year level you are teaching. Year 7-10's seem to never shut the hell up.

[Odette]

Hmm I'd say the best way to shut the students up would be to make just leave the room... no um possibly make them laugh about it? Make a joke out of the situation? Negotiate with them maybe? I dunno I'll tell you when I start my rounds lol

[DrowNz]

teachers jokes wont hold with students, they are just not 'cool' enough (teachers.)
Only laugh you will get out of them is out of pity for trying so hard followed by a loss of respect, that is if there was any to begin with.

[pepsi]

^ so true.. I cringe whenever teachers makes a joke.

[Ninox]

one of my teachers uses jokes as a 'weapon' to get people to be quiet.
for example, it's a maths class and the teacher's about to move onto some more theory. There's a kid talking. the teacher'd say something like "[Name], makin' friends over there are ya?"
this evokes the natural peer response of laughter AT the one who was talking, making him shut up in embarrassment. i've only seen this work with guys though. but if it works...

[brendan]

oooh that's a good technique.

[DrowNz]

one of my teachers uses jokes as a 'weapon' to get people to be quiet.
for example, it's a maths class and the teacher's about to move onto some more theory. There's a kid talking. the teacher'd say something like "[Name], makin' friends over there are ya?"
this evokes the natural peer response of laughter AT the one who was talking, making him shut up in embarrassment. i've only seen this work with guys though. but if it works...

Do kids in your class ever respond? In my school they did. result = teacher makes no jokes no more.