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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1920 on: November 14, 2017, 09:25:36 pm »
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Hi, just to avoid any issues tomorrow, was the cheat sheet for physics supposed to be 2 A4 double sided sheets or single sided sheets?
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1921 on: November 14, 2017, 09:30:16 pm »
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Hi, just to avoid any issues tomorrow, was the cheat sheet for physics supposed to be 2 A4 double sided sheets or single sided sheets?
Double sided!
Make sure they are taped together! :)
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1922 on: November 14, 2017, 09:37:16 pm »
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Double sided!
Make sure they are taped together! :)
Okie dokie. Thank you very much!  :D :D
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1923 on: November 14, 2017, 10:09:32 pm »
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Just reading through the VicPhys answers to the sample exam, the answer was 12.5Hz but they wrote this:
"12.5 Hz, rounded to 12 Hz, using the rule of rounding to the nearest even number."
Anyone heard of this before?
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1924 on: November 17, 2017, 11:29:06 pm »
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Yo everyone!

For this question I couldn't find solutions so can someone please tell me if i am right: 15=A; 16=B; 17=D

MORE IMPORTANTLY, what is the best way to explain these answers or is it simply a matter of stating momentum is conserved, KE is converted to EPE etc. (I think it is something worth putting on my cheat sheet for 1/2 exam)
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1925 on: November 18, 2017, 10:44:48 am »
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Yo everyone!

For this question I couldn't find solutions so can someone please tell me if i am right: 15=A; 16=B; 17=D

MORE IMPORTANTLY, what is the best way to explain these answers or is it simply a matter of stating momentum is conserved, KE is converted to EPE etc. (I think it is something worth putting on my cheat sheet for 1/2 exam)
What's the question? (The picture doesn't include the first part where it describes what's happening to the system)
Just want to make sure my answers are for the right situation :)
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1926 on: November 18, 2017, 11:07:04 am »
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That was all of the question  :(
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« Reply #1927 on: November 18, 2017, 11:42:26 am »
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That was all of the question  :(

Looks like A, B, B.
If it is elastic, KEfinal = KEinitial, however in the middle some of it is transferred to spring potential energy then back into KE which is the drop.

B is correct for the second and third as momentum is always conserved per the law of conservation of momentum, whether or not it's an elastic collision.
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1928 on: November 18, 2017, 11:55:09 am »
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Cheers occidit for the help!

Thought it was only elastic collision where momentum is conserved
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1929 on: November 18, 2017, 12:06:31 pm »
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Cheers occidit for the help!

Thought it was only elastic collision where momentum is conserved
Momentum is always conserved within a closed system (so basically every collision, and not where a force is acting on an object).
Elastic just means kinetic energy is conserved :)
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1930 on: November 18, 2017, 12:10:13 pm »
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I don't really get that because KE=1/2mv^2 and In an inelastic collision KE is lost- meaning velocity decreases. And since momentum is m(v-u) I don't understand how momentum is conserved  :-\. But i'm happy just to accept it lol
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1931 on: November 18, 2017, 12:37:34 pm »
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I don't really get that because KE=1/2mv^2 and In an inelastic collision KE is lost- meaning velocity decreases. And since momentum is m(v-u) I don't understand how momentum is conserved  :-\. But i'm happy just to accept it lol

If velocity of one object decreases, then the other's increases in a closed system. 
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1932 on: November 18, 2017, 12:40:54 pm »
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If velocity of one object decreases, then the other's increases in a closed system. 

But inelastic collision are where KE is transferred into other forms of energy (e.g sound) so how could another object's velocity reach the same level as what the first object achieved if not all KE is transferred
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1933 on: November 18, 2017, 12:59:45 pm »
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But inelastic collision are where KE is transferred into other forms of energy (e.g sound) so how could another object's velocity reach the same level as what the first object achieved if not all KE is transferred

Momentum = mv
Kinetic Energy = 1/2mv^2

Whilst you can have negative momentum, it is the opposite for kinetic energy (because velocity will always be squared)

Example: Assume there are two toy cars. Car A (mass 1 kg) travelling towards Car B at 2 m/s to the right, whilst Car B (mass 3kg) is travelling towards it at 3 m/s to the left (Notice the differences in mass). After collision Car A travels 1 m/s to the left, and Car B travels 2 m/s to the left. (Assume right is positive)

Momentum.
Initial momentum of the system:
Car A: p = mv = 2 kg m/s
Car B: p = mv = -9 kg m/s
initial momentum = -7 kg m/s

final momentum
Car A: p = mv = -1 kg m/s
Car B: p = mv = -6 kg m/s
final momentum of system = -7 kg m/s

Therefore momentum is conserved.

Now as for kinetic energy within the system
initial kinetic energy = 0.5 x 1 x 2^2 + 0.5 x 2 x (-3)^2
                                = 11 J
final kinetic energy = 0.5 x 1 x (-1)^2 + 0.5 x 2 x (-2)^2
                               = 4.5 J

Ke is lost, therefore this is an inelastic collision (its being converted to heat, sound etc...).

When I said that if one object loses velocity, and the other gains it, it doesn't necessarily have to be the same amount (So in this case, Car B becomes slower by 1 m/s, but Car A did not "gain" that 1 m/s, instead it's change in velocity was -3 m/s). Mass plays a major role in determining its final velocity after collision.
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1934 on: November 18, 2017, 01:07:12 pm »
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But inelastic collision are where KE is transferred into other forms of energy (e.g sound) so how could another object's velocity reach the same level as what the first object achieved if not all KE is transferred

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