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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1290 on: November 07, 2015, 05:00:51 pm »
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Might be off topic but I'm kinda getting anxious for physics next year...I looked at VCAA 2014 a couple hours ago and literally couldn't do any of it even the motion and electronics section which made me scared lmao.

I think I'm putting too many expectations on myself already and expect myself to understand U3&4 exams with my U1&2 knowledge, sigh.
I wouldn't worry at all. You are definitely more prepared than I was. I doubt I even looked at a VCAA exam when I was doing 1/2. I had the exact same problem in specialist this year. At the start of the year when our teacher gave us past exam questions I didn't know how to do almost any of them. If it makes you feel better, I honestly didn't understand a lot of motion physics, conceptually and otherwise, until we did dynamics in spesh haha.

My best advice would be just forget about looking at exams, you aren't expected to know everything already. Contrary to that, maybe try to use it as motivation; keep learning. Make a checklist of things you didn't know from the 2014 exam and tick things off as you do learn them. Just some ideas, but in the end don't worry about it., you'll be fine :)



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« Reply #1291 on: November 07, 2015, 05:04:02 pm »
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I know the question your talking about. "Extension" refers to whatever the displacement of the end of the spring is after you've done something to it, like attaching a mass to it. If the spring was 0.4m long and you added a mass that made it's total length 1m, it's extension is 1-0.4 = 0.6m

Exactly, that's why I'm so confused.

The VCAA examiners report contradicts what you and I are agreeing on  :o

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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1292 on: November 07, 2015, 05:16:53 pm »
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I wouldn't worry at all. You are definitely more prepared than I was. I doubt I even looked at a VCAA exam when I was doing 1/2. I had the exact same problem in specialist this year. At the start of the year when our teacher gave us past exam questions I didn't know how to do almost any of them. If it makes you feel better, I honestly didn't understand a lot of motion physics, conceptually and otherwise, until we did dynamics in spesh haha.

My best advice would be just forget about looking at exams, you aren't expected to know everything already. Contrary to that, maybe try to use it as motivation; keep learning. Make a checklist of things you didn't know from the 2014 exam and tick things off as you do learn them. Just some ideas, but in the end don't worry about it., you'll be fine :)
Ah, thanks for the reassurance.

Good luck on the physics exam everyone.

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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1293 on: November 07, 2015, 05:20:40 pm »
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Hi,
Only thing I'm a bit worried about for the Physics exam are the spring questions that turned up in 2013 and 2014 - they were highly conceptual. Does anyone have ideas of how to prepare for those? (i.e. any questions in Checkpoints, etc) (Other than that, I'm bracing myself for Spesh and then Chem :P)
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1294 on: November 07, 2015, 05:49:41 pm »
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Only thing I'm a bit worried about for the Physics exam are the spring questions that turned up in 2013 and 2014 - they were highly conceptual. Does anyone have ideas of how to prepare for those? (i.e. any questions in Checkpoints, etc) (Other than that, I'm bracing myself for Spesh and then Chem )
Those spring questions will be the death of me man, praying that they give em a miss this year. It's just the wording that got me, made absolutely no sense considering it was a vcaa which are usually crystal clear
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1295 on: November 07, 2015, 05:52:35 pm »
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Those spring questions will be the death of me man, praying that they give em a miss this year. It's just the wording that got me, made absolutely no sense considering it was a vcaa which are usually crystal clear
Well hopefully, since Tasmania Jones is nowhere to be seen :)
I mean, I coped with those questions, but I couldn't see the proof (2014) that maximal Ek occurred in the middle of the oscillation. It made logical/practical sense, but I wasn't satisfied until I had shown that it was so using a mathematical method. Not entirely sure how VCAA wanted it to be argued, although I suspect they just wanted people to go by 'instinct'
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1296 on: November 07, 2015, 06:07:57 pm »
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Well hopefully, since Tasmania Jones is nowhere to be seen :)
I mean, I coped with those questions, but I couldn't see the proof (2014) that maximal Ek occurred in the middle of the oscillation. It made logical/practical sense, but I wasn't satisfied until I had shown that it was so using a mathematical method. Not entirely sure how VCAA wanted it to be argued, although I suspect they just wanted people to go by 'instinct'

The answer to this question confused the fuck outta me.

Did you manage to get it correct?

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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1297 on: November 07, 2015, 06:08:44 pm »
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Those spring questions will be the death of me man, praying that they give em a miss this year. It's just the wording that got me, made absolutely no sense considering it was a vcaa which are usually crystal clear

3 years in a row? I wouldn't think so.

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« Reply #1298 on: November 07, 2015, 06:09:54 pm »
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3 years in a row? I wouldn't think so.
That's what I'm hoping, although each year they've been poorly done. And 90% of physics is exact same as the preceding year ahaha it's not as though they're scared of repetition
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1299 on: November 07, 2015, 06:14:07 pm »
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I got 126/150 for VCAA 2013. How did you guys go? I've got VCAA 2014 to go...
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1300 on: November 07, 2015, 06:22:11 pm »
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Will work rigorous mathematical proof and post here (hope so anyway) stay tuned
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1301 on: November 07, 2015, 07:23:22 pm »
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Hi guys,
Attempted doing a general proof but messed that up twice (misconceptions abounded :( )
However, here's my working for the VCAA 2014 question again. It completely avoids the assumption that max speed occurs in middle of oscillation (and is thus the mathematically rigorous method of proof). The examiners' report simply stated that max speed = middle of oscillation. This is probably a handy fact to remember then ;) But for those who are curious or don't like assumptions:
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https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=2692D5EC8060E581!6587&authkey=!AHb8GmRybJWZUUo&ithint=file%2cpdf
Does use methods knowledge which is beyond the Physics SD, but who cares. My physics teacher said it was acceptable.
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1302 on: November 07, 2015, 07:27:16 pm »
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Hi guys,
Attempted doing a general proof but messed that up twice (misconceptions abounded :( )
However, here's my working for the VCAA 2014 question again. It completely avoids the assumption that max speed occurs in middle of oscillation (and is thus the mathematically rigorous method of proof). The examiners' report simply stated that max speed = middle of oscillation. This is probably a handy fact to remember then ;) But for those who are curious or don't like assumptions:
Spoiler
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=2692D5EC8060E581!6587&authkey=!AHb8GmRybJWZUUo&ithint=file%2cpdf
Does use methods knowledge which is beyond the Physics SD, but who cares. My physics teacher said it was acceptable.

link doesnt seem to work for me, keen to see this
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1303 on: November 07, 2015, 07:55:20 pm »
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link doesnt seem to work for me, keen to see this

Can someone please explain why the 'wrong' way of doing VCAA 2013 Question 1 is wrong? itute did it that way, but VCAA said it was wrong.

Thanks so much everyone!
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1304 on: November 07, 2015, 08:14:13 pm »
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Can someone please explain why the 'wrong' way of doing VCAA 2013 Question 1 is wrong? itute did it that way, but VCAA said it was wrong.

Thanks so much everyone!

Which part of the question? part a?
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