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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1395 on: January 03, 2016, 11:59:55 pm »
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Hmm, I think the question is saying that the 20J is the total amount of kinetic energy lost, not the energy lost from each ball. So, I think you're meant to work out the amount of kinetic energy 'remaining', then work out how much kinetic energy each ball has after the collision (it should be the same amount for both balls), and use that to work out the final speed of each ball.

I am still a little short of this

I did the same as nerdgasm, I got 2m/s as my final answer. If it's correct I can post my working if you want but you're pretty much going E initial = E final as your first line.

Can you kindly show the essential parts of your working out?

Thanks   :)
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1396 on: January 04, 2016, 02:27:58 pm »
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E initial = E final
EKi = EKf + Mechanical Energy(sound)
0.5mu^2 + 0.5mu^2 = 0.5mv^2 + 0.5mv^2 + 20
Sub in values then you'll get: 36 = 4v^2 + 20
Solve for v: =2m/s

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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1397 on: January 04, 2016, 04:11:13 pm »
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For this question and solution attached.

How is the normal force down ? Shouldn't the normal force be up as it opposes gravity?


I have written out my working  below shouldn't  this be correct  ?

let down be positive






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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1398 on: January 04, 2016, 04:28:47 pm »
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For this question and solution attached.

How is the normal force down ? Shouldn't the normal force be up as it opposes gravity?


I have written out my working  below shouldn't  this be correct  ?

let down be positive







Normal force doesn't always oppose gravitational force. In this case, the toy truck will basically be weightless, thus normal force will be in the same direction as the gravitation force.

Look at this website and scroll down: http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/~cfadd/1350/06CirMtn/VertCircle.html

If you don't understand it, don't hesitate to reply back  :)

EDIT: you gained a negative normal force, so your working out is fine. (negative force = same direction as the gravity)
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1399 on: January 04, 2016, 04:42:32 pm »
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Normal force doesn't always oppose gravitational force. In this case, the toy truck will basically be weightless, thus normal force will be in the same direction as the gravitation force.

Look at this website and scroll down: http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/~cfadd/1350/06CirMtn/VertCircle.html

If you don't understand it, don't hesitate to reply back  :)

EDIT: you gained a negative normal force, so your working out is fine. (negative force = same direction as the gravity)

Thanks Syndicate  :)

why will the toy truck  be weightless ?

also in my working out my final answer had the normal force as up what did i do wrong (working out is below) ?




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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1400 on: January 04, 2016, 04:52:48 pm »
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Thanks Syndicate  :)

why will the toy truck  be weightless ?

also in my working out my final answer had the normal force as up what did i do wrong (working out is below) ?




let down be positive







You did everything right, except the last line. You already got a negative normal force (-7.31 N), which means that the normal force will face in the direction of gravity (which will always be downwards, so it should be 7.31 Ndown)

As for the toy truck being weightless.

As both forces (gravity and normal force) will be facing downwards, the toy truck will seem to be weightless.

Think it about this way:

When you freefall, you would feel weightless, as there is no force impacting in the opposite direction of gravity ( I think, there is no normal force, when an object is free falling).
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1401 on: January 04, 2016, 06:08:24 pm »
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You did everything right, except the last line. You already got a negative normal force (-7.31 N), which means that the normal force will face in the direction of gravity (which will always be downwards, so it should be 7.31 Ndown)

As for the toy truck being weightless.

As both forces (gravity and normal force) will be facing downwards, the toy truck will seem to be weightless.

Think it about this way:

When you freefall, you would feel weightless, as there is no force impacting in the opposite direction of gravity ( I think, there is no normal force, when an object is free falling).

Thanks Syndicate  :)

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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1402 on: January 04, 2016, 06:09:07 pm »
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1403 on: January 04, 2016, 07:05:17 pm »
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How would you do this question attached.

Hey Knightrider,

You can workout the angle by simply using the formula:

where v = velocity (18 m/s)
r = radius (80)
g = gravity (9.8 m/s)

so if you sub in the quantities


=

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which can be rounded to a whole number of 22 degrees

hopefully this helps  :)
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1404 on: January 04, 2016, 07:08:09 pm »
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Hey Knightrider,

You can workout the angle by simply using the formula:

so if you sub in the quantities
=
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which can be rounded to a whole number of 22 degrees

hopefully this helps  :)

Thanks Syndicate  :)

Where did you get this formula from  ?

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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1405 on: January 04, 2016, 07:13:33 pm »
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Thanks Syndicate  :)

Where did you get this formula from  ?

I discovered it last year, while reading over my cousin's Physics notes, however, I am sure, it can be found on a webpage  :)
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1406 on: January 04, 2016, 07:27:58 pm »
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These are the equations from which the banked corner formula is derived from. Fc is the centripetal force (net force). I'll try to find a sheet I have that explains this in detail but here are the equations.
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« Reply #1407 on: January 04, 2016, 07:42:35 pm »
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The idea is:

Object in a banked curve is not moving vertically (horizontal plane) so the vertical acceleration has to be zero. Vertical component of net force is zero. Through geometry, the incline angle happens to also be the angle between the normal and the vertical. It makes sense as the incline and normal are at 90 degrees and the horizontal/vertical are at 90 degrees.

Hence, resolving the forces vertically gives N cos theta = mg and N sin theta = mv^2/r (centripetal acceleration requirement as the net force is directed radially towards the centre, much like the horizontal force component)
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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1408 on: January 04, 2016, 09:09:51 pm »
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These are the equations from which the banked corner formula is derived from. Fc is the centripetal force (net force). I'll try to find a sheet I have that explains this in detail but here are the equations.

The idea is:

Object in a banked curve is not moving vertically (horizontal plane) so the vertical acceleration has to be zero. Vertical component of net force is zero. Through geometry, the incline angle happens to also be the angle between the normal and the vertical. It makes sense as the incline and normal are at 90 degrees and the horizontal/vertical are at 90 degrees.

Hence, resolving the forces vertically gives N cos theta = mg and N sin theta = mv^2/r (centripetal acceleration requirement as the net force is directed radially towards the centre, much like the horizontal force component)

Thanks JI2015 and lzxnl. Really helped  :)

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Re: VCE Physics Question Thread!
« Reply #1409 on: January 05, 2016, 12:01:59 am »
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How would you do this question attached?