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« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2016, 11:32:54 am »
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Rightfully so! Matrices are easy once you get the hang of it, it should be a 2U method, and 4U students will still learn it ;D
I felt matrices were harder than vectors though


Until projections onto all sorts of random stuff came in

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« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2016, 11:46:57 am »
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I felt matrices were harder than vectors though
Until projections onto all sorts of random stuff came in

I mean it can get tricky, but Gaussian elimination is very intuitive, as can be matrix arithmetic if you are taught well ;D inverses and orthogonal matrices and stuff can get hairy, admittedly, but the usefulness of the methods is so beyond useful, it would have served me well to learn it way before university ;D this new syllabus is really fantastic I must say

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« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2016, 11:48:22 am »
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I mean it can get tricky, but Gaussian elimination is very intuitive, as can be matrix arithmetic if you are taught well ;D inverses and orthogonal matrices and stuff can get hairy, admittedly, but the usefulness of the methods is so beyond useful, it would have served me well to learn it way before university ;D this new syllabus is really fantastic I must say
Yea using Gaussian elimination seems more than fair enough, but it took a while to get used to matrix multiplication though and that sort of stuff is what I feel is better left at a 3U level

Oh of course the improvements are real

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« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2016, 01:02:08 pm »
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By the way how do you guys feel that simple harmonic motion is being put into 4U?

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« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2016, 01:14:00 pm »
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By the way how do you guys feel that simple harmonic motion is being put into 4U?
Laughed a bit. But I don't mind.

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« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2016, 01:16:30 pm »
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Laughed a bit. But I don't mind.

What if they put binomial theorem in 4U or projectile motion?

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« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2016, 01:19:17 pm »
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Projectile motion in 4U is fine.

Half of the binomial theorem topic needed to be abolished. Binomial theorem proofs are useless - only the actual expansion and greatest coefficient etc. had some usage (and the latter is really debatable).

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« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2016, 01:21:02 pm »
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Projectile motion in 4U is fine.

Half of the binomial theorem topic needed to be abolished. Binomial theorem proofs are useless - only the actual expansion and greatest coefficient etc. had some usage (and the latter is really debatable).

Agree with this! Teach the expansion technique itself to 2U students (not too difficult to use) and then get rid of the rest and replace it with some more useful calculus ;D

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« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2016, 03:24:07 pm »
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I wish they could introduce a calculus+probability based topic (like how they have calculus and trig and calculus and logs)

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« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2016, 04:13:18 pm »
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I wish they could introduce a calculus+probability based topic (like how they have calculus and trig and calculus and logs)
It's called statistics.

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« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2016, 07:14:43 pm »
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It's called statistics.

Is it really? I never thought of that. Mind explaining how Statistics is a combination of calculus and probability

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« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2016, 07:28:36 pm »
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Is it really? I never thought of that. Mind explaining how Statistics is a combination of calculus and probability

Basically, when you stop considering your outcomes as discrete quantities (how many darts hit the bullseye) and instead consider continuous quantities (the height of someone), the quantities are called continuous random variables. For these we turn to Calculus!  ;D

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« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2016, 07:57:19 pm »
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Basically, when you stop considering your outcomes as discrete quantities (how many darts hit the bullseye) and instead consider continuous quantities (the height of someone), the quantities are called continuous random variables. For these we turn to Calculus!  ;D

Are there other examples of this?

When we turn to calculus, what type specifically?

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« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2016, 08:06:31 pm »
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Are there other examples of this?

When we turn to calculus, what type specifically?

Yes, google 'Probability Calculus' or other similar phrases and see what you find ;D

The example I mentioned above would involve integrals to sum probabilities over certain domains ;D

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« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2016, 02:34:47 am »
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Yes, google 'Probability Calculus' or other similar phrases and see what you find ;D

The example I mentioned above would involve integrals to sum probabilities over certain domains ;D

This is what it is: http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcII/Probability.aspx

It would be great if they taught it in high school