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Collin Li

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« Reply #60 on: November 15, 2007, 10:13:03 am »
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In a few words what do libertarians/classical liberals believe? We believe that a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.


I read it as being... there shouldnt be laws that restrict a persons free will, even if exercising that will caused harm to themselves... that a person should have the right to choose their own actions as long as it didnt harm anyone elses rights.

we oppose stupid laws like no fireworks, and helmets on bicycles lol ...

things where the govt restricts you and says theyre protecting you.


Well said. You both highlight the concerns of the libertarian :)

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« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2007, 10:26:44 am »
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what about seatbelts? do libertarians disagree with seatbelts?

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« Reply #62 on: November 15, 2007, 10:28:11 am »
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what about seatbelts? do libertarians disagree with seatbelts?


We don't disagree with "seatbelts," but we disagree with mandatory seatbelts.  Wearing a seatbelt is in your interests, because it protects your life in the event of a car crash. If you choose not to do it, your loss.

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« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2007, 10:36:08 am »
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We don't disagree with "seatbelts," but we disagree with mandatory seatbelts.  Wearing a seatbelt is in your interests, because it protects your life in the event of a car crash. If you choose not to do it, your loss.


hm.. i duno. Seatbelts have saved alot of lives (haha i'm sure that's an ad) and people would never have embraced them had they not been made mandatory imo. When they first came out everyone hated them. And what about children? They don't really get a choice, should their parents be able to decide?

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« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2007, 10:51:39 am »
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Well if you're in an accident and you're not wearing a seat belt and you die and the roads have to be blocked off for hours because you chose not to wear a seatbelt then it could kinda piss people off lol.
Not to mention that it would just add to the crippling health system if you had to be rushed to hospital in a critical condition.
In that instance I would say if you didn't wear a seatbelt you shouldnt have the right to health care because you made the choice to endanger your own life.

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« Reply #65 on: November 15, 2007, 11:05:24 am »
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yeah I agree with the whole libertarian thing but I don't think government intervention is always evil.
I also don't think that if someone dies because they don't wear a seatbelt it only affects them. It affects their family, their community etc.

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« Reply #66 on: November 15, 2007, 11:06:13 am »
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But wearing a seatbelt could cause harm too, my friend was in an accident a few years ago... she was wearing a seatbelt, and thanks to the seatbelt her intestines were squashed, she needed to have an operation..

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« Reply #67 on: November 15, 2007, 11:06:28 am »
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In that instance I would say if you didn't wear a seatbelt you shouldnt have the right to health care because you made the choice to endanger your own life.


the right to have the taxpayer subsidise your healthcare you mean.

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« Reply #68 on: November 15, 2007, 11:29:58 am »
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In that instance I would say if you didn't wear a seatbelt you shouldnt have the right to health care because you made the choice to endanger your own life.


the right to have the taxpayer subsidise your healthcare you mean.


Haha, yeah. Here's an example of where government intervention (social welfare) has created an economic externality, and then to fix it, we require more government intervention (which can create more externalities, and result in a vicious loop of big government).

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« Reply #70 on: November 15, 2007, 12:48:46 pm »
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"Your traditional values score is 87.1%. This equates to a ?Far Right? position"

"Your economic policy score score is -23%. This equates to a ?Centre Left? position"

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« Reply #71 on: November 15, 2007, 06:02:43 pm »
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"Your traditional values score is 87.1%. This equates to a ?Far Right? position"

"Your economic policy score score is -23%. This equates to a ?Centre Left? position"

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Oh god. :(

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« Reply #73 on: November 15, 2007, 06:51:26 pm »
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Your economic policy score score is -25.7%. This equates to a ?Centre Left? position
Your social policy score is -66%. This equates to a ?Left? position


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« Reply #74 on: November 15, 2007, 07:57:41 pm »
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Your economic policy score score is -25.7%. This equates to a ?Centre Left? position
Your social policy score is -66%. This equates to a ?Left? position


 :shock:


At least she's not a socially conservative Christian communist.