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[Raahem]

Question, I'm interested in transferring from science to commerce after a year (preferably a semester) what subjects should I take so that I can transfer to commerce and complete an engineering breadth track?

I was thinking of taking civil systems subjects (for engineering) and commerce subjects in my breadth, what are the other 'science' subjects that could benefit me most? Or be are 'easy' to do well in so I have a better chance to receive a 75+% average?

I would recommend ECON10004 Introductory to Microeconomics in semester 1 because it's a core subject for all B.Com people so you'll be surrounded by commerce kids so if you want to make friends prior to transferring that won't be a problem.  It's also a very easy subject even if you haven't economics in VCE.

Thanks! Any subjects within science subjects that could help me with commerce? any maths maybe?
I'm interested in eco and finance

Here are 3 subjects you have to do in first year commerce
ECON10004 Introductory Microeconomics (semester 1)
ECON10003 Introductory Macroeconomics (Semester 2)
(this is maths ->) ECON10005 Quantitative Methods 1 - bad news, you cannot do it as a breadth, you will have to do it after starting commerce

So i suggest you do those 2 economics subjects on your current degree, and when you transfer you will be very close to a start-intake commerce student. ie: you will be only 1 subject behind (ECON10005)

I dont know how much room you have in your study planner but you could try some electives if you're interested
Finance 1, Managing and Leading Organisations, Accounting Reports and Analysis, Principles of Marketing

However put priority on the compulsory Economics subjects

EDIT: I have no clue about engineering stuff though :/ get advice on that first to see if it can all fit together. perhaps you can start the maths requirements for engineering within your science degree?

[nubs]

Thanks - it's starting to make sense now. But I accidentally put ENGR10003 into the BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 field. I was meant to put it in the BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1 field with all my level 1 sciences but I already had 5. Do you know how to delete it?

And I'm seriously confused as to what all these BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3, BS-SCISUBLV2 - Science Level 2, BS-BREADTHL1-3 - Breadth Level 1-3 Subjects, BS-BREADTHL2-3 - Breadth Level 2-3 Subjects, BS-SCI&BREADTH - Science and Breadth and etc means. There are just so many categories it's a nightmare to do.

You're supposed to put it in the BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 field if you you already have 5 subjects selected for the BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1 field - you can't put any more into that field. If you want to do more than 5 level 1 subjects in first year, you need to enter the subject into the Science Level 1, 2 & 3 one

Ok, so
BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1
You have to enrol in 5 subjects here to reach the minimum of 62.5 points for Level 1 Science subjects (12.5 points x 5 subjects)
BS-SCISUBLV2 - Science Level 2
Same as Science Level 1, except you need 5 Science Level 2 subjects instead of Level 1. You need at least 62.5 points for both Level 1 and Level 2 subjects
BS-SCISUBLV3 Science Level 3
Here you also need at least 2 Science Level 3 subjects to make up the required total of 25 points.
BS-SCIMAJOR - Science Major
50 of these points will come from the 4 subjects you do for your major which will be done in your 3rd year.

You need to complete a total of 225 points worth of Science subjects. So the minimum from each of the 3 levels gives us 200 points, leaving us the option of choosing two more Science subjects from each level to make up the 225.
BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3
That is why we are given this option^
So yeah just choose another 2 subjects here, and they can be from any level seeing as you will ultimately meet the minimums from the 3 levels anyway

Now for Breadth
Option for BS-BREADTHL1-3 Breadth Level 1-3 Subjects
You need 3 subjects here, but keep in mind you can only do a maximum of 3 level 1 breadth subjects

BS-BREADTHL2-3 - Breadth Level 2-3 Subjects
You need 1 breadth subject here from either Level 2 or 3

BS-SCI&BREADTH - Science and Breadth
You need to put in another 2 here, and they can be either Science and/or breadth subjects from any level (but keep in mind you can do more than 3 Level 1 breadth subjects)

Confirm/deny anyone^?

hmm, it's just that the handbook doesn't tell me if Chemistry 2 is confirmed for the 2013 summer term, so if it ends up not being offered then I just die

That's the only thing that's keeping me

Is there any reason for me to think it won't be offered again for next year's summer term?

I got an email from UoM saying it will be offered again for next year's summer term

Just do 4 sciences in semester 1 this year...?

I never thought of that, I guess I was just really set on doing Accelerated Maths 1 & 2 and both breadth this year

So are you saying I should take 2 semesters of physics to cover the GAMSAT material?
But yeah what you said actually works out perfectly

[Gloamglozer]

Question, I'm interested in transferring from science to commerce after a year (preferably a semester) what subjects should I take so that I can transfer to commerce and complete an engineering breadth track?

I was thinking of taking civil systems subjects (for engineering) and commerce subjects in my breadth, what are the other 'science' subjects that could benefit me most? Or be are 'easy' to do well in so I have a better chance to receive a 75+% average?

I would recommend ECON10004 Introductory to Microeconomics in semester 1 because it's a core subject for all B.Com people so you'll be surrounded by commerce kids so if you want to make friends prior to transferring that won't be a problem.  It's also a very easy subject even if you haven't economics in VCE.

Thanks! Any subjects within science subjects that could help me with commerce? any maths maybe?
I'm interested in eco and finance

That maths you tackle in finance in the first two years is no harder than year 12 methods.  You'll also have to know how to use a scientific calculator (yes, a scientific calculator from years 7 & 8 ) but that's assumed knowledge.  But with economics, in second year, you'll have to learn the chain rule and the like for Intermediate Microeconomics.  If you don't want to be rusty on that, you could do Calculus 1 or 2 depending on whether or not you did Specialist Maths.

[kwheattt]

Question, I'm interested in transferring from science to commerce after a year (preferably a semester) what subjects should I take so that I can transfer to commerce and complete an engineering breadth track?

I was thinking of taking civil systems subjects (for engineering) and commerce subjects in my breadth, what are the other 'science' subjects that could benefit me most? Or be are 'easy' to do well in so I have a better chance to receive a 75+% average?

I would recommend ECON10004 Introductory to Microeconomics in semester 1 because it's a core subject for all B.Com people so you'll be surrounded by commerce kids so if you want to make friends prior to transferring that won't be a problem.  It's also a very easy subject even if you haven't economics in VCE.

Thanks! Any subjects within science subjects that could help me with commerce? any maths maybe?
I'm interested in eco and finance

That maths you tackle in finance in the first two years is no harder than year 12 methods.  You'll also have to know how to use a scientific calculator (yes, a scientific calculator from years 7 & 8 ) but that's assumed knowledge.  But with economics, in second year, you'll have to learn the chain rule and the like for Intermediate Microeconomics.  If you don't want to be rusty on that, you could do Calculus 1 or 2 depending on whether or not you did Specialist Maths.

Yeah I was thinking of doing Calc 2, just because I enjoy maths and I'm pretty I need it for engineering anyway... but other than that I think I'll do subjects that I think I'll be good at do attain a 75% average :p

I enjoy maths, and I can see you've majored in maths and stats. if I put in the work and like maths, are the maths subjects doable or is the maths really hard?

[Starlight]

Does anyone know how many actual 'subjects' you do for first year science? I know that you do a breadth, science elective and ones related to your future job e.g. civil engineering.

[nubs]

^Look at my post El2012 (Second one on this page)

[Gloamglozer]

Question, I'm interested in transferring from science to commerce after a year (preferably a semester) what subjects should I take so that I can transfer to commerce and complete an engineering breadth track?

I was thinking of taking civil systems subjects (for engineering) and commerce subjects in my breadth, what are the other 'science' subjects that could benefit me most? Or be are 'easy' to do well in so I have a better chance to receive a 75+% average?

I would recommend ECON10004 Introductory to Microeconomics in semester 1 because it's a core subject for all B.Com people so you'll be surrounded by commerce kids so if you want to make friends prior to transferring that won't be a problem.  It's also a very easy subject even if you haven't economics in VCE.

Thanks! Any subjects within science subjects that could help me with commerce? any maths maybe?
I'm interested in eco and finance

That maths you tackle in finance in the first two years is no harder than year 12 methods.  You'll also have to know how to use a scientific calculator (yes, a scientific calculator from years 7 & 8 ) but that's assumed knowledge.  But with economics, in second year, you'll have to learn the chain rule and the like for Intermediate Microeconomics.  If you don't want to be rusty on that, you could do Calculus 1 or 2 depending on whether or not you did Specialist Maths.

Yeah I was thinking of doing Calc 2, just because I enjoy maths and I'm pretty I need it for engineering anyway... but other than that I think I'll do subjects that I think I'll be good at do attain a 75% average :p

I enjoy maths, and I can see you've majored in maths and stats. if I put in the work and like maths, are the maths subjects doable or is the maths really hard?

Oh that's right, you want to do Engineering.  Then I think you'll have to do Calculus 2, Linear Algebra and Engineering Maths.

If you're on top of the material being taught, do the practice questions that they give then maths is doable* despite the exam being worth 80%.

*Unless if it's pure maths.  Pure maths is reserved for the almighty and Chuck Norris minds.

Does anyone know how many actual 'subjects' you do for first year science? I know that you do a breadth, science elective and ones related to your future job e.g. civil engineering.

Most people do 8, ie. 4 each semester.  But in science, they're aren't any compulsory subjects you have to do in first year.  You just choose a selection of subjects that tickle your fancy and then from there, you crop them down to your major.  That's how it usually works I think.

[Starlight]

^Look at my post El2012 (Second one on this page)

Ah thanks, didn't notice.

[superstar1]

hey ive got 8 subjects done for biomedicine and it says that my enrolment is not complete?? anyone know why??

[86]

You're supposed to put it in the BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 field if you you already have 5 subjects selected for the BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1 field - you can't put any more into that field. If you want to do more than 5 level 1 subjects in first year, you need to enter the subject into the Science Level 1, 2 & 3 one

Ok, so
BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1
You have to enrol in 5 subjects here to reach the minimum of 62.5 points for Level 1 Science subjects (12.5 points x 5 subjects)
BS-SCISUBLV2 - Science Level 2
Same as Science Level 1, except you need 5 Science Level 2 subjects instead of Level 1. You need at least 62.5 points for both Level 1 and Level 2 subjects
BS-SCISUBLV3 Science Level 3
Here you also need at least 6 Science Level 3 subjects to make up the required total of 75 points. 50 of these points will come from the 4 subjects you do for your major which will be done in your 3rd year. Another two Level 3 subjects will make up the remaining 25 points needed

You need to complete a total of 225 points worth of Science subjects. So the minimum from each of the 3 levels gives us 200 points, leaving us the option of choosing two more Science subjects from each level to make up the 225.
BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3
That is why we are given this option^
So yeah just choose another 2 subjects here, and they can be from any level seeing as you will ultimately meet the minimums from the 3 levels anyway

Now for Breadth
Option for BS-BREADTHL1-3 Breadth Level 1-3 Subjects
You need 3 subjects here, but keep in mind you can only do a maximum of 3 level 1 breadth subjects

BS-BREADTHL2-3 - Breadth Level 2-3 Subjects
You need 1 breadth subject here from either Level 2 or 3

BS-SCI&BREADTH - Science and Breadth
You need to put in another 2 here, and they can be either Science and/or breadth subjects from any level (but keep in mind you can do more than 3 Level 1 breadth subjects)

Confirm/deny anyone^?

My goodness thank you, it makes sense now. It seems right..

What would 'BS-SCIMAJOR - Science Major' be for? And by Level 1, 2, 3 - do they mean 1st year, 2nd year and 3rd year?

[nubs]

Oh, the Science Major one is for the 4 subjects that make up your major
So if you're doing a pure mathematics major, go to the unimelb handbook and look up the 4 subjects you need to complete that major
you can't enrol into those 4 subjects now for obvious reasons, but plan them out to make sure you do the prereq subjects in your first and second years

and I edited my previous post to include the BS-SCIMAJOR - Science Major

And by Level 1, 2 and 3, it doesn't mean 1st year, 2nd year or 3rd year, because you can do Level 1 subjects in 3rd year and level 3 subjects in 2nd year etc
They just measure the level of difficulty
A certain level 2 subject usually requires a particular level 1 subject as a prerequisite, and a level 3 subject may need a level 2 subject to be completed before you can do it

[86]

Thank you so much. It's not as daunting anymore. Is it right that you can only enroll in your first year subjects BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1 and BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 ? I haven't selected any Breadth subjects, just from those two.

[nubs]

Think so, you should be able select your breadth subjects as well though.
You can plan your entire 3 years if you want, but you can only enrol in the subjects you intend to do in your first year

[86]

I have 2 subjects in BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 though, so would I be doing them in the first year?

And which Breadth category do you put your Breadth subjects in?

[nubs]

Uh I guess? That would mean you only have 4 in the 'Science Level 1' category, yeah? I think it would be better to have 5 in the 'Science Level 1' category, and one subject in the 1, 2 & 3 category, but I don't think that should matter. Maybe wait for one of the other guys to confirm that for you.
Also, after you select the subject, you need to tick the box next to it, and then scroll down and click on 'continue to enrol'

and for your breadth, since it's your first year, you probs won't be able to do it in the Breadth Level 2 & 3 one, but you could do it anywhere else
Don't do it in the 'Science and Breadth' one though, because that one allows you to trade a breadth for a science subject, so you may want to save the option for later