VCE Legal Studies Question Thread

[andy456]

yeah and you could also argue

formal/informal, accessible to a wider range of the public (can occur on weekends and in the night)/ limited accessibility

[YenEe94]

Are we supposed to learn the jurisdiction of the coroners court? It's on a practice sac here.. I thought the SD omitted those specialist courts for less rote learning?

[eeps]

I would say yes. You need to know all the specialist courts of the Magistrates' Court (i.e. Drug, Koori, Children's and Coroner's Court). Different textbooks cover different courts/lists. J&O covers the Family Violence Division, Sexual Offences List and Assessment and Referral Court List - which isn't covered in "Making and Breaking the Law". Know all of them to cover your bases. For the specialist courts of the Magistrates' Court such as the Coroner's Court, all you need to say is what type of cases it can hear/ investigate. In short, study it.

That's what I said to werdna a while back. My understanding is that since the introduction of the new study design, VCAA has reduced the number of lists (VCAT) that students need to know, but you'd still be expected to know a few specialist courts of the Magistrates' Court, hence I included the Coroner's Court in the practice SAC. Any specialist court of the Magistrates' Court is examinable I think, so I'd learn it to be safe.

[YenEe94]

Damn.
Also.. the lists? I never learnt one.. did we need to study a specific list or could we pick and choose? I just learnt the 'role' of VCAT; as it was expressed in the SD

[eeps]

In the annotated study design for teachers for the new 2011 new course, in relation to: the role of VCAT, there is a comment on the side specifying: "Focus on role, rather than jurisdictions. Could include discussion of the range of disputes heard by VCAT, and the operation of ONE list as an example.

I only studied the Anti-Discrimination list, I believe that one of the principal changes to Unit 4 was to take out the lists of VCAT as one of the key knowledge areas.

That should answer your question. I think if you learn one of the three lists; Anti-Discrimination, Civil Claims or Residential Tenancies List in detail (textbook will suffice), then you'll be fine. I'm assuming you would get to pick-and-choose a list to study.

[YenEe94]

What does this weakness mean? 'Dispute resolution has become fragmented, which has added confusion experienced by parties about where a dispute resolution would best be solved' It's under VCAT. Does it have something to do with the excessive amount of 'lists' or something?
Totally clueless

[nacho]

What textbook do you guys use? Does anyone else think that 'justice and outcomes 11e' is written by a Fob?

Anyways:
"what ground are required for a civil appeal to be heard in the supreme court?"

"Describe the ways in which mediation is used in the Supreme Court"

thanks

[werdna]

I would say yes. You need to know all the specialist courts of the Magistrates' Court (i.e. Drug, Koori, Children's and Coroner's Court). Different textbooks cover different courts/lists. J&O covers the Family Violence Division, Sexual Offences List and Assessment and Referral Court List - which isn't covered in "Making and Breaking the Law". Know all of them to cover your bases. For the specialist courts of the Magistrates' Court such as the Coroner's Court, all you need to say is what type of cases it can hear/ investigate. In short, study it.

That's what I said to werdna a while back. My understanding is that since the introduction of the new study design, VCAA has reduced the number of lists (VCAT) that students need to know, but you'd still be expected to know a few specialist courts of the Magistrates' Court, hence I included the Coroner's Court in the practice SAC. Any specialist court of the Magistrates' Court is examinable I think, so I'd learn it to be safe.

Specialist courts of Magistrates' and County Courts like the Koori Court and Drug Court etc should be learnt, but other specialist courts like the Children's Court, Coroner's Court, High Court, Family Court, Federal Court are not part of the study design. Only the Magistrates', County and Supreme (Trial and Appeal) Courts are examinable (plus their respective specialist courts) but all the rest are not, if I'm looking at the textbook and study design properly.

[YenEe94]

Alright. Ty.

What does this weakness mean? 'Dispute resolution has become fragmented, which has added confusion experienced by parties about where a dispute resolution would best be solved' It's under VCAT. Does it have something to do with the excessive amount of 'lists' or something?
Totally clueless

Can someone help me with my query? ^o^

[eeps]

Alright. Ty.

What does this weakness mean? 'Dispute resolution has become fragmented, which has added confusion experienced by parties about where a dispute resolution would best be solved' It's under VCAT. Does it have something to do with the excessive amount of 'lists' or something?
Totally clueless

Can someone help me with my query? ^o^

It's saying that there are many methods of getting a dispute resolved (i.e. mediation, conciliation and arbitration) in addition to VCAT's specialised lists and subsequently, this confuses parties of which is the best way to resolve their dispute.

[gs]

yeah and you could also argue

formal/informal, accessible to a wider range of the public (can occur on weekends and in the night)/ limited accessibility

Good man cheers

[YenEe94]

What separates certain criminal offences to be heard in the supreme vs. county in terms of indictable offences? (Since they both hear indictable offences) Are the more serious ones held in the supreme and which ones are the more 'serious'.. aren't they categorized equally?

[Liuy]

The County Court hears most indictable (serious) offences, with the exception of the MOST serious indictable offences which must be heard in the Supreme Court, for example murder, treason, child homicide and manslaughter.

No they are not catergorised equally.

[eeps]

What textbook do you guys use? Does anyone else think that 'justice and outcomes 11e' is written by a Fob?

Though my school's primary text is Making and Breaking the Law, I use all 3; J&O, Making and Breaking the Law and Key Concepts. J&O goes into a lot of depth, whereas the other two textbooks don't comparatively.

Anyways:
"what ground are required for a civil appeal to be heard in the supreme court?"

"Describe the ways in which mediation is used in the Supreme Court"

thanks

1. On point of law from the Magistrates' Court or from VCAT.
2. As ech_93 said a few pages back, mediation in the Supreme Court is used in an attempt to save parties time and money in civil disputes. That's really the only way mediation is used in the Supreme Court, I think.

[nacho]

anyone uploaded notes in regards to courts, ADR, adv and disadv of both and VCAT?
I got a SAC coming up! already.. :/ would much rather study umat than this but ohwell