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Re: English scaling
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2008, 01:09:24 pm »
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My 46 went to 46.18    
Yours didn't scale up. It's just that they don't bother with the decimal points in the grades section.

Also, people really need to read this. It's not the difficulty of the subject, but the competition you face in the subject that determines scaling.


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Re: English scaling
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2008, 01:25:37 pm »
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How isn't that scaling up? If what you mean is say costargh originally had a 46.18 because he scored better than some people in the 46 range, then explain why the scaling remains the same for people with the same SS in other subjects? I'm pretty sure raw scores only use integer figures, and in this case, costargh's 46 did indeed scale up to 46.18. However I'm not too great with the statistical side of all of this so prove me wrong if you wish.
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Re: English scaling
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2008, 02:03:27 pm »
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It's only what I heard, I don't have any proof. Looking at VCAA's website, it doesn't mention it either way.

It always seemed logical to me. For instance, a study score of 35 means you're in the top 26%, and a study score of 38 means you're in the top 15% (in subjects with over 1000 students). So with 3 integers, they have to represent 11% of students. That's 110 students at the very least. Their rank would be determined by three variables, and I don't think they'd all get the same, so I assumed they wouldn't be given the same SS values, either.

On the VCAA website, it mentions this:
• The ranks are then normalised using an inverse normal function. The scores resulting from this transformation are
distributed normally, with a mean of 0 and a standard deviation of 1.
• The normalised scores are then converted to a scale with a mean of 30 and a standard deviation of 7, truncated at 0 and
50. This produces a possible study score ranging from 0 to 50, with the majority of study scores between 23 and 37.
Perhaps during this process they convert all scores into integers as well, but I don't really know.

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Re: English scaling
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2008, 02:11:24 pm »
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Mmm from what I see I'm pretty sure it's integers only for raw scores. I haven't seen any deviations between people who have the same raw score in their scaled score.
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Re: English scaling
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2008, 02:35:37 pm »
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I suppose you're right, then.

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Re: English scaling
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2008, 04:15:55 pm »
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mine got scaled down 2, how shattering!!! :(
2007 -
health and human development (33)

2008 -
literature (34..still confused by that)
english (37)
psychology (35)
biology (28...lolllll)
physical education (31...this was a good surprise!)

aiming for 83+
ENTER - 77.65
have been offered first pref. :)

2009 - year off

2010 - health sciences at deakin (waurn ponds)
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Re: English scaling
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2008, 09:24:06 pm »
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mine got scaled down 2, how shattering!!! :(

So did mine. :)

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Re: English scaling
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2008, 09:55:00 pm »
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My 43 went down to 42.88 :(

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Re: English scaling
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2008, 11:08:01 pm »
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My 43 went down to 42.88 :(

Not too bad. :)