Why do people tend do Chinese 3/4 in Y11?

[kyzoo]

Exactly how long do you need to "prepare your detailed study in a hell of a lot of depth"? I have done a week of research and stuff on the Internet regarding my subject is already getting repetitive and old.

[kenhung123]

oh my gosh, is dat you jeff?

[TrueTears]

Exactly how long do you need to "prepare your detailed study in a hell of a lot of depth"? I have done a week of research and stuff on the Internet regarding my subject is already getting repetitive and old.

Memorise it all.

[IntoTheNewWorld]

Exactly how long do you need to "prepare your detailed study in a hell of a lot of depth"? I have done a week of research and stuff on the Internet regarding my subject is already getting repetitive and old.

Memorise it all.

This.

[Cataclysmic]

becaues it's a shit subject but it scales good, so might as well get rid of it early.

[jejak]

becaues it's a shit subject but it scales good, so might as well get rid of it early. Wink

I know that was probably meant a bit flippantly, but I can honestly say I really enjoyed CSL, even though I didn't do all that well. Tellingly, though, all the guys in my CSL class (everyone was hua qiao, ABC or whatever except me) who did it because of a) parental pressure or b) scaling advantage ended up doing even worse. I think to do even mildly well in a LOTE, you either need to have been learning it for several years before VCE (at home, chinese school, primary school), but more importantly, you have to love it enough to put in the effort. Scaling is a good incentive but for me it was never a strong enough motivator.

[kyzoo]

Scaling doesn't motivate me either, it's not enough to compensate for my deficiency such that Chinese will end up top 4.

[minilunchbox]

I started chinese school in grade 2 and if I didn't quit in year 9 (best decision ever, I don't regret it at all despite the scaling and 'disappointing' my family) I would've done 3/4 in year 12. Nearly all of the people in my class were actually a year below so they'll be doing 3/4 in year 11. Generally the parents try to push their kids into a higher class if possible if this is at a chinese school.

[jejak]

Generally the parents try to push their kids into a higher class if possible if this is at a chinese school.

Do you have any insights as to why?

[minilunchbox]

Generally the parents try to push their kids into a higher class if possible if this is at a chinese school.

Do you have any insights as to why?

Chinese schools are pretty flexible with letting people be in a higher class and parents would want to take advantage of that. It's like picking up a 3/4 in year 11 because you can and you appear smarter because it's like ~woah you're doing advanced work.

[kyzoo]

My mum "If you have the opportunity to ascend, then take it, don't waste it." Translated of course =X

趁着机会，不要浪费。

[jejak]

趁着机会，不要浪费

Haha I like that it kinda rhymes. Good advice generally, too. Although I wonder if a student might do better having waited an extra year, at least in the case of Chinese - not only due to having more time, but also being more mature in their study habits.

[kyzoo]

haha i just made it up on the spot just then.

And in my case, an extra year definitely helped. I didn't even know how to write 吃 a year ago.

[jayfan]

but a friend enrolled in chinese 3/4 for both yr 11 and yr 12 , but didn't sit the exam 4 yr 11, so the yr 12 chinese becomes less stressful for her as she has covered most of the content in yr 11.

This is so true. In my case, I studied in a Unit 3/4 class in my chinese school when I was in year 10, so I basically covered all the essay types and finished my detailed study. Then I just spent year 11 practising and fixing things up, and it worked fine for me.

I didn't realise it at the time, but LOTEs actually take a lot more time to perfect compared to other subjects, coz the content is not strictly outlined in the study design per se, and you can always improve your knowledge, especially for the oral component.

I strongly recommend doing chinese in year 11, because you simply would not have enough time to practise adequately for the oral exam. After all, the last month or so is when you memorise all the responses, etc. Otherwise if you have no choice but to do it in year 12, start preparing real early. It all adds up in the end.