Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?

[Potatohater]

There’s an element of truth to this. Alcohol itself is a really damaging substance though. We should be careful not to shy away from the fact that alcohol is inherently very harmful. This harm is enabled by a culture that normalises its use, especially in excess.

Oh yes of course, not denying that it's harmful cause it is, just think that it would be less so if our culture didn't make it so normal

[vox nihili]

Oh yes of course, not denying that it's harmful cause it is, just think that it would be less so if our culture didn't make it so normal

Yep, absolutely!
If we legitimately want to reduce alcohol related harms we need to reduce consumption. Pretty simple as a principle really!

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Oh yes of course, not denying that it's harmful cause it is, just think that it would be less so if our culture didn't make it so normal

Yep, absolutely!
If we legitimately want to reduce alcohol related harms we need to reduce consumption. Pretty simple as a principle really!

Definitely! Economically and socially!

Alcohol costs Australia 36 billion dollars a year annually (where as the tax revenue from the sales of alcohol ) are only 6 billion.  $24.7 billion in tangible costs which include out-of-pocket expenses, forgone wages or productivity and hospital and childcare protection costs. There are a further $11.6 billion in intangible costs, which include lost quality of life from someone else's drinking.

Australia would be 30 billion dollars better off if we drank less.

Though, changing culture is hard. History shows that banning anything is ineffective (look at USA during the alcohol prohibition period).

[Mada438]

Definitely! Economically and socially!

Alcohol costs Australia 36 billion dollars a year annually (where as the tax revenue from the sales of alcohol ) are only 6 billion.  $24.7 billion in tangible costs which include out-of-pocket expenses, forgone wages or productivity and hospital and childcare protection costs. There are a further $11.6 billion in intangible costs, which include lost quality of life from someone else's drinking.

Australia would be 30 billion dollars better off if we drank less.

If we're going to drink less, can we also get rid of cigarettes as well???
Like seriously they're disgusting

[Cornrow Kenny]

Tried fixing the typos idk what happened lol.

I just don't see the appeal of cannabis honestly too many side effects and risk factors.

Studies aren't exactly damning but evidence exists for the negative effects

Honestly I find myself disagreeing with each of your posts.

Despite the abundance of evidence for negative effects, I'm sure you eat or have eaten fast food in the past -  "I just don't see the appeal of fast food". Please. That's not an argument.

I for one can see the appeal of cannabis, people thoroughly enjoy it, has medicinal benefits etc - there are very few side effects and risk factors from my past experience.

The only reasons why cannabis is illegal is due to unwarranted stigma, and perhaps fear from cigarette and alcohol companies that they would lose business.

If used in moderation would you have an issue with it?
 

[The Special One]

Honestly I find myself disagreeing with each of your posts.

Despite the abundance of evidence for negative effects, I'm sure you eat or have eaten fast food in the past -  "I just don't see the appeal of fast food". Please. That's not an argument.

I for one can see the appeal of cannabis, people thoroughly enjoy it, has medicinal benefits etc - there are very few side effects and risk factors from my past experience.

The only reasons why cannabis is illegal is due to unwarranted stigma, and perhaps fear from cigarette and alcohol companies that they would lose business.

If used in moderation would you have an issue with it?

I don't understand the fast food argument, we need food to live and we know exactly what effect it has on our bodies.

What do we need cannabis for? What use does it have? Obviously medical reasons exist but for totally healthy people we don't need it.

When you burn more calories than you consume nothing wrong with fast food it won't make you fat, lack of exercise, a slow metabolism and genetics makes you fat.

 Fast food  drugs does not have the potential to induce a mental phsychosis or negatively impact developing minds.

Cannabis being smoked can cause cancer specifically lung cancer  that isn't really debated.

Cannabis is addicting that's another fact!

We don't know the full extent of what cannabis can do and studies are conflicting.

Better safe than sorry in all honesty and keep it banned except for those who could benefit from whatever medicinal properties it may have.

[Potatohater]

When you burn more calories than you consume nothing wrong with fast food it won't make you fat, lack of exercise, a slow metabolism and genetics makes you fat.

Actually this isn't true. You can be skinny but still be so incredibly unhealthy on the inside. The stuff that is in fast food is really bad for you and can clog arteries and cause disease, so even if you excersise a heap, fast food is still harmful in excess.

But you can't ban that because people have free will over what they eat, and it should be the same for weather or not someone decides to smoke weed or not.

[The Special One]

[Yertle the Turtle]

If we're going to drink less, can we also get rid of cigarettes as well???
Like seriously they're disgusting

So true, man, I catch the train everyday from a station that is known for being a druggo area, so it stinks of smoke all the time, and isn't really a safe place imo. Cracking down on drug abuse, drinking and smoking would improve the place no end!

[brenden]

I don't understand the fast food argument, we need food to live and we know exactly what effect it has on our bodies.

What do we need cannabis for? What use does it have? Obviously medical reasons exist but for totally healthy people we don't need it.

When you burn more calories than you consume nothing wrong with fast food it won't make you fat, lack of exercise, a slow metabolism and genetics makes you fat.

 Fast food  drugs does not have the potential to induce a mental phsychosis or negatively impact developing minds.

Cannabis being smoked can cause cancer specifically lung cancer  that isn't really debated.

Cannabis is addicting that's another fact!

We don't know the full extent of what cannabis can do and studies are conflicting.

Better safe than sorry in all honesty and keep it banned except for those who could benefit from whatever medicinal properties it may have.

It's not about being skinny, it's about exercising well building up muscle  and burning of the calories that fast food gives you.

Even being fat you can be healthy it's not an issue about body shape.

People can have clogged arteries even eating really healthily, it's why cholesterol tablets exist and blood thinners.

I'm no nutritionist or scientist so I may be wrong but I'm certain what I've said about fast food  is correct.

Of course earning it every day is handful but you know eating nothing but lettuce every day is harmful too.

Everything has potential to be handful when not done in moderation but some things are more harmful than others.

Like you can't compare fast food with crystal meth.

You’ve truly outdone yourself. Bravo.

[The Special One]

[Potatohater]

It's not about being skinny, it's about exercising well building up muscle  and burning of the calories that fast food gives you.

Even being fat you can be healthy it's not an issue about body shape.

People can have clogged arteries even eating really healthily, it's why cholesterol tablets exist and blood thinners.

I'm no nutritionist or scientist so I may be wrong but I'm certain what I've said about fast food  is correct.

Of course earning it every day is handful but you know eating nothing but lettuce every day is harmful too.

Everything has potential to be handful when not done in moderation but some things are more harmful than others.

Like you can't compare fast food with crystal meth.

Ok so body shape was only brought into it
A. Because of this quote

When you burn more calories than you consume nothing wrong with fast food it won't make you fat, lack of exercise, a slow metabolism and genetics makes you fat.

B. So I could illustrate a point. A point you clearly didn't get, so I'm gonna rephrase
Junk food is bad for you because it contains lots of saturated fats. This is the reason for clogged arteries and disease. People who eat healthily don't get these diseases because thier intake of saturated fat is much less. Even if you burn off the calories there's still a health risk, hence you can appear healthy but not actually be so on the inside. Do they teach this stuff in 7-10 down in Vic? Because if you know the food groups and the food pyramid you know that fast food is amongst the smallest portion for this reason. And thus, your statements that fast food is fine so long as you burn off the calories is incorrect.

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I actually have no idea why I'm being downvoted lol.

You can look online even Wikipedia to see all the side effects of cannabis. Fact is our body doesn't need it when healthy.

Cannabis like most drugs is addicting and has harmful effects, why on earth would anyone want that to be made legal is beyond me.

At least fast food fills you up and is cheap, I'll take that over cannabis any day, I can definitely see why people would want a frozen coke and a 50c soft serve McDonald's ice cream on a hot day.

Much easier to downvote someone than to struggle to attempt to justify allowing kids and teens to legally purchase a potentially very harmful drug.

The thing is,
A. Wikipedia is not a reliable source
B. Yes, we don't need weed, but some people just like how it makes them feel
C. If you watched the Adam Ruins Everything video, it shows that weed isn't as harmful and addictive as we think
D. No one is suggesting it for kids and teens, I thought this was more aimed towards young adults
- next time I'm at the library I'll pick up some legit info because they have stands full of infomation on this topic that might help clear a few things up

[Calebark]

At least fast food fills you up and is cheap, I'll take that over cannabis any day, I can definitely see why people would want a frozen coke and a 50c soft serve McDonald's ice cream on a hot day.

That's far from healthy for you. Have you considered a sugar addiction?

[brenden]

I actually have no idea why I'm being downvoted lol.

You're getting downvoted because you insist on arguing an irresponsible, factually incorrect and completely vacuous point of view with regards to fast food.

Just about the only thing you've got right in this thread is that it's easier to downvote you than it is to engage you in rational discussion.

[Mada438]

I actually have no idea why I'm being downvoted lol.

You can look online even Wikipedia to see all the side effects of cannabis. Fact is our body doesn't need it when healthy.

Cannabis like most drugs is addicting and has harmful effects, why on earth would anyone want that to be made legal is beyond me.

At least fast food fills you up and is cheap, I'll take that over cannabis any day, I can definitely see why people would want a frozen coke and a 50c soft serve McDonald's ice cream on a hot day.

Much easier to downvote someone than to struggle to attempt to justify allowing kids and teens to legally purchase a potentially very harmful drug.

I think part of the problem is that you're arguing looking at Wikipedia as if it were a reputable source. It most certianly isn't.
I think you need to look at more reputbale sources to back up your points.
For example, i make a case for the benefits of Medical marijuana and i use this source from [b]The Harvard Medical School[/b]
Might be a good place to start justifying your arguements instead of baseless statements