VCE English Question Thread

[vceme]

Hey!
I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on writing a creative piece based on a film, such as Rear Window? Also, if anyone has any advice on adopting a similar voice to the characters that would be great! Please keep in mind, i dont get the sac topics until the day (rip)
( also any advice on writing under pressure would be great)
Thank you in advance 

[clarke54321]

Hey!
I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on writing a creative piece based on a film, such as Rear Window? Also, if anyone has any advice on adopting a similar voice to the characters that would be great! Please keep in mind, i dont get the sac topics until the day (rip)
( also any advice on writing under pressure would be great)
Thank you in advance 

Hello vceme

Writing a creative piece based on a film, can be tackled in the same way that you might respond to either a novel or play. Take note of certain gaps in the plot or characterisation of characters. If you choose to go down the plot path, think to yourself, what might have happened prior to this moment or what might happen after this moment. Ambiguity is something to look out for with creative pieces, because it gives you the perfect opportunity to implement your own original insight.

It's excellent to see that you appreciate the significance of character voice! This is an incredibly important facet to any piece of creative writing (especially in adaptation format). To establish a voice consistent with that of your main character, I'd encourage you to go through your text and note 5-10 quotes/film techniques, which you think are pertinent to the construction of your character. Beneath each piece of evidence, spend some time brainstorming what each reveal/imply/intimate/suggest. You'll be surprised by the wealth of hidden knowledge that will emerge. If you need any further help with the creative, check out some of my guide tips.

And as for writing under pressure, this unfortunately comes with experience. But with an assessment like the creative, you can loosely form your piece before the SAC (even if the prompts aren't released at an earlier stage). All you'll have to do is manipulate elements of your response, so as to adequately engage with the relevant prompt.

Hopefully this helps!

[011116]

tragedian-playwriter Euripides' play Medea highlights the struggles that were faced by women in a society where women were seen as equals to slaves, in order to depict medea as a  heroic figure more than a villain. written to criticise the mistreatment of women during 431 BC, euripides shows the damage tht can occur when a women is disregarded and mistreated.

can someone tell where to improve on in this introduction
prompt: was medea a hero or villain, discuss?

[Yertle the Turtle]

tragedian-playwriter Euripides' play Medea highlights the struggles that were faced by women in a society where women were seen as equals to slaves, in order to depict medea as a  heroic figure more than a villain. written to criticise the mistreatment of women during 431 BC, euripides shows the damage tht can occur when a women is disregarded and mistreated.

can someone tell where to improve on in this introduction
prompt: was medea a hero or villain, discuss?

Looks pretty good, maybe make mention of your three prongs (three main ideas and arguments). I'm doing Medea as well, and I really had difficulty reading it because it was just such an awkward book to read and was boring.

Anyone else doing Skzynecki's poetry? I'm not finding it too bad... It's pretty easy to learn, but it's pretty hard to write about since it is so easy to interpret in any way, but there's no real substance to put into an essay.

[MissSmiley]

tragedian-playwriter Euripides' play Medea highlights the struggles that were faced by women in a society where women were seen as equals to slaves, in order to depict medea as a  heroic figure more than a villain. written to criticise the mistreatment of women during 431 BC, euripides shows the damage tht can occur when a women is disregarded and mistreated.

can someone tell where to improve on in this introduction
prompt: was medea a hero or villain, discuss?

Hi vceme !

Tragediany-playwriter playwright Euripides, through his play Medea you know what? you could even say "Through his tragic play Medea,Euripides...just to sound simpler highlights the struggles that were faced by women in a society where women they were seen as equals to slaves, really? I think this is a bit of exaggerating. Like I hear your disapproval in their treatment, but could you say "where women were down played" maybe? in order to depict medea as a  heroic figure more than a villain. what makes Medea a heroic figure? you sound like you're saying that just the fact that women were looked down upon, made Medea a heroic figure. You need to mention something like because she attempted to challenge the patriarchy, that can suggest she's a heroine. . One of the purposes in writing the play,(just so you're acknowledging that there were many purposes in writing the play, not just criticising mistreatment of women) Euripides criticises the mistreatment of women during 431 BC which shows the damage that can occur when a womenan is disregarded and mistreated. add more to this sentence to link this back to the prompt. So maybe something like Euripides, through Medea's revengeful persona warns of the damages that can occur when women are disregarded and mistreated, in this case, overthrowing one's status in society to appear godly (deus ex machina event). And then as Marvin K. Mooney said, you'd need to signpost a bit.

Hope this helps !

[011116]

Hi vceme !

Tragediany-playwriter playwright Euripides, through his play Medea you know what? you could even say "Through his tragic play Medea,Euripides...just to sound simpler highlights the struggles that were faced by women in a society where women they were seen as equals to slaves, really? I think this is a bit of exaggerating. Like I hear your disapproval in their treatment, but could you say "where women were down played" maybe? in order to depict medea as a  heroic figure more than a villain. what makes Medea a heroic figure? you sound like you're saying that just the fact that women were looked down upon, made Medea a heroic figure. You need to mention something like because she attempted to challenge the patriarchy, that can suggest she's a heroine. . One of the purposes in writing the play,(just so you're acknowledging that there were many purposes in writing the play, not just criticising mistreatment of women) Euripides criticises the mistreatment of women during 431 BC which shows the damage that can occur when a womenan is disregarded and mistreated. add more to this sentence to link this back to the prompt. So maybe something like Euripides, through Medea's revengeful persona warns of the damages that can occur when women are disregarded and mistreated, in this case, overthrowing one's status in society to appear godly (deus ex machina event). And then as Marvin K. Mooney said, you'd need to signpost a bit.

Hope this helps !

Thank you for the feedback, but u know how u said "where women were played down" i dont get what u mean by that  thanks again

[011116]

Through his tragic play Medea, Euripides highlights the struggles that women faced, in a patriarchal society, in order to portray Medea as a heroic figure who defends the right of women. Furthermore, Euripides criticizes the mistreatment of women and emphasizes the damage that a patriarchal society can do to a woman when she attempts to break free from societal norms

how is this? 

[MissSmiley]

Thank you for the feedback, but u know how u said "where women were played down" i dont get what u mean by that  thanks again

Yeah so I said "down played"
Does that clear it up?

So they were given lesser importance than males, treated like they are had no value, no importance.

Is that all right?

[lilyrosee]

Through his tragic play Medea (too wordy - try Euripides' tragedy highlights...), Euripides highlights the struggles (find a stronger word here) that women faced, in a patriarchal society, (too many commas halts the fluidity of your writing - just say 'women in a patriarchal society') in order to portray Medea as a heroic figure who defends the right of women (you need to be more specifc than just the 'rights of women', any one can mention that - what specfically does Medea do that creates a postive/negative consequence for women?). Furthermore, Euripides (Assessors do not actually like 'furthermore' as much as many people believe, as I got rid of your use of 'play' before, here you could say 'The playwright criticizes' to signal that you are discussing a play') criticizes the mistreatment of women and emphasizes the damage that a patriarchal society can do to (have on) a woman when she attempts to break free from societal norms (societal norms is a very generalised statement - try to be more specific about what she breaks free from)

[MissSmiley]

Through his tragic play Medea, Euripides highlights the struggles that women faced, in a patriarchal society, in order to portray Medea as a heroic figure who defends the right of women. Furthermore, Euripides criticizes the mistreatment of women and emphasizes the damage that a patriarchal society can do to a woman when she attempts to break free from societal norms

how is this? 

Yeah great ! Sounds even better now!

Once the signposting gets into this, it'll be a powerful, short and sweet intro (like it should be!!)

[Yertle the Turtle]

Furthermore, Euripides criticizes the mistreatment of women and emphasizes the damage that a patriarchal society can do to (have on) a woman when she attempts to break free from societal norms

Damage that a patriarchal society can "have on"? That doesn't work in a sentence, 'do to' would be better in this case imo

[lilyrosee]

Damage that a patriarchal society can "have on"? That doesn't work in a sentence, 'do to' would be better in this case imo

If you change the 'when' to an 'as' it works, 'do it' sounds a bit informal imo but that is just me

[Yertle the Turtle]

If you change the 'when' to an 'as' it works, 'do it' sounds a bit informal imo but that is just me

I would have thought that you can't have damage on something, but maybe that's just me...

[nice!]

emphasizes the damage that a patriarchal society can do to (have on) a woman when she attempts to break free from societal norms

Or you could change it to:
... emphasises the damaging effects that a patriarchal society can inflict upon a woman when she attempts to break free from societal norms.

[Yertle the Turtle]

Or you could change it to:
... emphasises the damaging effects that a patriarchal society can inflict upon a woman when she attempts to break free from societal norms.

YES!! Perfecto! You are a virtuoso!! Thanks nice!