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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2115 on: October 31, 2017, 02:25:36 pm »
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Hey, So for section B(Comparative), how long should the introduction be? Mine go for over half a page, as i introduce both texts / authors / style / context / and the three points i will be making. Is that too much information?

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« Reply #2116 on: October 31, 2017, 02:32:13 pm »
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Hey, So for section B(Comparative), how long should the introduction be? Mine go for over half a page, as i introduce both texts / authors / style / context / and the three points i will be making. Is that too much information?

Depending on your hand-writing size, more than half a page may or may not be a bit too much. With section B, I've always condensed my introduction to 3 large sentences (multiple clauses). However, this is definitely personal preference. My only reasoning is that, with the comparative, the bulk of your essay will generally be greater than the text response; given the comparison between two different texts. A good idea might be to go through your essay with a highlighter, and highlight words or phrases that are key to context or interpretation. After having done this, see if you can re-write a shorter, and maybe more concise, introduction. Hopefully this helps :)
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« Reply #2117 on: October 31, 2017, 02:38:27 pm »
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any phrases or ways to incorporate tone in body paragraphs for LA? Rarely do i ever mention about tone after the introduction.
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« Reply #2118 on: October 31, 2017, 02:39:14 pm »
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Hey, So for section B(Comparative), how long should the introduction be? Mine go for over half a page, as i introduce both texts / authors / style / context / and the three points i will be making. Is that too much information?
Depending on your hand-writing size, more than half a page may or may not be a bit too much. With section B, I've always condensed my introduction to 3 large sentences (multiple clauses). However, this is definitely personal preference. My only reasoning is that, with the comparative, the bulk of your essay will generally be greater than the text response; given the comparison between two different texts. A good idea might be to go through your essay with a highlighter, and highlight words or phrases that are key to context or interpretation. After having done this, see if you can re-write a shorter, and maybe more concise, introduction. Hopefully this helps :)

Hey! Adding to clarke54321's wonderful advice, I would try to cut out the style and context in your introduction. I am assuming you are including things such as the setting of the texts, when they were written, what genre they are in etc. (please correct me if i'm wrong). Unless they are directly related to the three points you are making, I wouldn't include them. Otherwise, everything else you are including seems fine! Maybe just condense them a bit!
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« Reply #2119 on: October 31, 2017, 02:43:22 pm »
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any phrases or ways to incorporate tone in body paragraphs for LA? Rarely do i ever mention about tone after the introduction.
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I think I answered a similar question in a previous post. To incorporate tone into analysis, I like to connect it to textual evidence. Eg. "The undertones of (tone X- sarcasm, distress), which riddle/consume the phrase Y, seeks to stress/emphasise/foreground."

I also like to preface new paragraphs with, "Shifting to a more Z tone, author P ....."
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« Reply #2120 on: October 31, 2017, 02:48:54 pm »
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any phrases or ways to incorporate tone in body paragraphs for LA? Rarely do i ever mention about tone after the introduction.
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I think I answered a similar question in a previous post. To incorporate tone into analysis, I like to connect it to textual evidence. Eg. "The undertones of (tone X- sarcasm, distress), which riddle/consume the phrase Y, seeks to stress/emphasise/foreground."

I also like to preface new paragraphs with, "Shifting to a more Z tone, author P ....."
Hi! Adding to clarke54321 again (sorry man), explaining the impact of tonal shifts on the target audience could also be used. It provides you with another level of complexity to your analysis.  For example, if you note that the author moves from an aggressive tone to a more calmer one, you could talk about how they would seem more reasonable to their audience etc.
Hopefully that makes sense! Please feel free to add anything!
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« Reply #2121 on: October 31, 2017, 03:18:34 pm »
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How many quotes are you looking to memorize for each text(Medea, YOW and The Crucible)

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2122 on: October 31, 2017, 03:29:17 pm »
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How many quotes are you looking to memorize for each text(Medea, YOW and The Crucible)
I can't say for the other texts besides Medea since I didn't do comparative last year.
I would say going into the exam I memorise ~20-25 quotes most likely more then that if I'm honest.
With Medea, then are a lot of good short quotes that hold a lot of information such as "tuscan syclla", "lioness guarding her cubs", "everybody loves himself more than his neighbour", "I fear you", "to punish Jason will be just", "...child killer", "vile murderess!" and many more.

I would remember the key ones that everyone puts in their essay and maybe some specific ones like the animalistic quotes to show Medea is an outsider or ones that show Medea is different to other women.
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2123 on: October 31, 2017, 04:53:27 pm »
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How many quotes would you recommend to memeorise for each of sections A and B? Should I memorise a quote for each theme?

And what make would I need to get a 36? A 7/10 for each essay or...?


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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2124 on: October 31, 2017, 04:54:35 pm »
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Hi, for comparative should you make comparisons between texts throughout the paragraph? and take a similar approach to comparative language analysis?
I usually structure my paras by talking about one text then i have a transitional comparative statemnt and start talking about the next text, but should i include more comparison throughout???
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2125 on: October 31, 2017, 05:03:32 pm »
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Does anyone have any key quotes for Crucible and YOW?

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2126 on: October 31, 2017, 05:06:36 pm »
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Hey guys, does anyone know if we'll be marked down if we don't have a conclusion for Section C? I've heard some people say that's it's not that important... so could someone please confirm this? Thx  ;)

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2127 on: October 31, 2017, 05:13:13 pm »
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Hi, for comparative should you make comparisons between texts throughout the paragraph? and take a similar approach to comparative language analysis?
I usually structure my paras by talking about one text then i have a transitional comparative statemnt and start talking about the next text, but should i include more comparison throughout???

Ideally you’d want more than one transitional comparative statement. So you should include more comparison throughout, cause comparison is a major criteria.

Hey guys, does anyone know if we'll be marked down if we don't have a conclusion for Section C? I've heard some people say that's it's not that important... so could someone please confirm this? Thx  ;)
My impression is that you should at least chuck in a 2 sentence conclusion to make sure you have it. It only takes like a minute for me to write one. This is just to be safe. But, I think that if you don’t have time for a conclusion, then it’s not the biggest deal and you shouldn’t stress about it.

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2128 on: October 31, 2017, 05:19:56 pm »
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For the burial rites and medea section, are we allowed to write about both?? I've been told that we need to pick one book only and write an essay on that using the prompts given but what if i find burial rites too difficult in the exam, am i allowed to write about both?? Obviously on different papers

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2129 on: October 31, 2017, 05:21:51 pm »
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Anyone have a simple, easy acronym for language analysis structure? Like what to include in the intro and how to lay out each body paragraph?