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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1590 on: October 25, 2016, 11:45:25 am »
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Maybe. Rive is throwing me off a bit. :P

The most significant divisions in any community are not ethical or moral, but personal animosities, insecurities and greed.

^^There are so many aspects in this prompt... and not enough time to fully hash them all out. Could I sorta just treat ethical = moral ad personal animosities = insecurities = greed? Or would that be too simplistic?

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« Reply #1591 on: October 25, 2016, 11:48:00 am »
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Conflict can only be resolved when there is an agreed version of events.

and

Conflict is inevitable, the way we deal with it is not.

^^ What big ideas are these two prompts dealing with? What's the second prompt saying?

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« Reply #1592 on: October 25, 2016, 01:25:20 pm »
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Just wondering if its okay to draw upon two of the set texts I've learnt as examples in a context expository essay, or whether I should just stay focused on one text throughout.
e.g. In one paragraph I might use the ideas from text A
In the next I might use ideas from text B

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« Reply #1593 on: October 25, 2016, 01:31:36 pm »
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Just wondering if its okay to draw upon two of the set texts I've learnt as examples in a context expository essay, or whether I should just stay focused on one text throughout.
e.g. In one paragraph I might use the ideas from text A
In the next I might use ideas from text B
i dont think this is allowed- on the front of your answer booklet, it says something not to use a 'multimodal' text for section b, that was used in section 'a'- so im not sure!
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« Reply #1594 on: October 25, 2016, 01:35:38 pm »
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i dont think this is allowed- on the front of your answer booklet, it says something not to use a 'multimodal' text for section b, that was used in section 'a'- so im not sure!

Oops, I meant to mean, would it be okay to use ideas from both Foe and Wag the Dog (not from the actual Section A)
Sorry for not being clear

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1595 on: October 25, 2016, 01:38:21 pm »
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Oops, I meant to mean, would it be okay to use ideas from both Foe and Wag the Dog (not from the actual Section A)
Sorry for not being clear
i dont think (not sure)  u can use ideas from both, bc you have to write your 'main text' on the top, so try not to use ideas evenly between the two; pretty sure yo have to maintain one main text- but double check w/ others on here :)
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1596 on: October 25, 2016, 01:51:36 pm »
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For encountering conflict, I'm writing a persuasive opinion piece, is it okay to focus it all on one big broad idea such as divorce or the ferguson riots case and then extract my ideas from that? and then throughout link it to a separation?
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1597 on: October 25, 2016, 01:52:18 pm »
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Just wondering if its okay to draw upon two of the set texts I've learnt as examples in a context expository essay, or whether I should just stay focused on one text throughout.
i dont think (not sure)  u can use ideas from both, bc you have to write your 'main text' on the top, so try not to use ideas evenly between the two; pretty sure yo have to maintain one main text- but double check w/ others on here :)
You are allowed to use both texts, just one has to be the main and written at the top of section B while the other can be used a little bit throughout your piece
"Your writing must draw directly from at least one selected text that you have studied for this Context" (from VCAA)

However, if one of your texts from section A is already multimodal (mabo, AAE) then you cant write on a multimodal text in section B (for example Invictus).
"If a student writes on a multimodal text in Section A of the examination, they must not write on a multimodal text as their main text in
Section B. Films are multimodal texts."
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1598 on: October 25, 2016, 01:52:21 pm »
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Hi!
I was just wondering for a prompt that talks about how relationships impact on your identity, like  'without connection to others, there is no me' would these three paragraphs for an expository essay be okay

1. connection to parents, they are around in our most formative years and our values and beliefs are largely gained from them
2. our identity continues to change throughout our lives through relationships we gain and lose in a lifetime
3. however there are some integral parts of our identity that can not be changed in anyway by those around us, such as race.

My teacher isn't sure about the third paragraph and said it doesn't really keep to the prompt but I just wanted to check whether other people think that too, I talk about white privilege etc and how these aspects of identity that are not altered by relationships are a large influence on your life and a really big impact on your identity and who you are, and then just talk about how Duggan is affected by his race in regards to his identity and views etc. because my book is Wild Cat Falling.

Thanks!!

I'm also not sure about the last one... While your actual race i.e the colour of your skin might not be changed, you can still identify with a race other than your own. A prime example of this is in the film 'skin'. The protagonist constantly changed the race they identified with...
You are right though, SOME things might not be influenced. But I don't think the race you identify with is one of them.
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1599 on: October 25, 2016, 01:54:02 pm »
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For those who are doing 'Medea', What can you talk about in the theam Manipulation?
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1600 on: October 25, 2016, 02:03:15 pm »
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thanks heaps lauren! i seem to have about only 5-10 memorised, and im aimin for like 20ish for today- would roughly 3ish direct quotes and a lot of 'non specific evidence' been plenty, or do i still need more ? :/ kinda annoyed my teachers didn't emphasise this.
3 in each paragraph might get you over the line, but try and memorise a wide variety for a bunch of different themes just to ensure you have your bases covered.

sorry to double post. but i forgot to ask- what is the rule about the 'multimodal text' for section A/B? im using the film MABO for text, and every man in this village is a liar for context- is that ok? my context will be a creative piece
Yep, you're all good. You're just not allowed to write on films for both Sec. A and B (e.g. All About Eve + A Separation or Mabo + Invictus)

What structure would you use for a Language Analysis if you are asked to analyse an interview?
Same structure I'd recommend for any material; group by arguments and transition between the different authors' depiction of certain ideas :)

Also, one last thing.

Do you feel like it's a bit difficult to interpret Mankiewicz's views and values for All About Eve? He holds up the injustices females suffer in the industry and in society, but you could hardly say he challenges this view.

Plus, it's hard to tell with the whole Hollywood v Theatre debate, he obviously was fascinated with the theatre, but do you think he was challenging the elitism commonly seen?
Yeah, AAE has some surprisingly complex views and values, but I think you can argue things either way, and you may even get a prompt revolving around what things Mank. is condoning/condemning. I don't really want to give you one interpretation because I'd rather not panic a bunch of people by inferring that this'd be the only way to argue things, so instead, I'd recommend coming to some conclusion either way and ensuring you can substantiate your position - that should be sufficient to get you through any potential V&V prompts :)

This is a Burial Rites related question:

What is the symbolism behind Kent's usage of wind and the sense of being underwater as a motif?

So for example, "only the wind speaks and it will not talk sense", "a cold wind passes through you as though you are not there..." and "there are ravens in the sky but what bird flies underwater", "we are all underwater and i cannot swim", "if i spesk, it will bein bubbles of air".

What is the significance of this?
Significance changes with context, but in general, BR has a lot of examples of pathetic fallacies (something that this essay handles really well) so consider how some of these natural symbols/metaphors could be used as indictments of the characters' state of mind. Also, ideas of submergence or feelings of deprivation and abandonment that are present in the quotes you've outlined are pretty clear links to Agnes' turmoil, so that's probably the easiest way to interpret things.

Thanks Lauren!

ii. How does the film show the barriers between men and women in the theatre?

^^ How would you tackle this prompt and break it down??? I don't know how I could structure an essay around this...
What are the barriers between men and women in the theatre in AAE? Start there. If in doubt, jump for evidence first and try to work backwards. Are there things that the men are capable of (or that they can do without having to suffer many social consequences) that the women can't get away with? Are there things that the men can acquire or assume that the women can't? Are there barriers that the women have to try and surmount that the men don't have to worry about? And are there gaps between the lives/values/intentions/desires of the men and women in the film? Hopefully that'll give you some starting points here :)

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In All About Eve, there are many different ways for a relationship to fracture. Do you agree?

How many different ways would you explore in your essay?
As many as you want ;)

Sorry for the vague response, but it really does depend on what ground you want to cover and whether you'd rather go for depth v. breadth. But within each different 'way' for fracturing to occur, you could talk about multiple relationships, so maybe three or four different 'ways' (i.e. one per paragraph) with multiple examples for each?

Every conflict involves both an internal and an external struggle.

How would I springboard from this prompt and broaden it out???
Can internal struggles affect external ones? Or vice versa? Or both? (Hint: it's both!) What does this say about conflict? Is the internal struggle the source of external ones? Which one affects us more? Which one is more telling/meaningful/important/impactful?

Just keep questionin'! :)

Hi!
I was just wondering for a prompt that talks about how relationships impact on your identity, like  'without connection to others, there is no me' would these three paragraphs for an expository essay be okay

1. connection to parents, they are around in our most formative years and our values and beliefs are largely gained from them
2. our identity continues to change throughout our lives through relationships we gain and lose in a lifetime
3. however there are some integral parts of our identity that can not be changed in anyway by those around us, such as race.

My teacher isn't sure about the third paragraph and said it doesn't really keep to the prompt but I just wanted to check whether other people think that too, I talk about white privilege etc and how these aspects of identity that are not altered by relationships are a large influence on your life and a really big impact on your identity and who you are, and then just talk about how Duggan is affected by his race in regards to his identity and views etc. because my book is Wild Cat Falling.

Thanks!!
Be careful not to base your arguments solely on one example (e.g. 'yes, because family' or 'no, because race'). The ideas you've outlined here seem solid, but you might find it useful to spend the first couple of sentences in each paragraph just fleshing out your idea before delving into examples to support your stance :)

Conflict and injustice arise from the human rive for power over others.

What's this prompt saying?

The most significant divisions in any community are not ethical or moral, but personal animosities, insecurities and greed.

^^There are so many aspects in this prompt... and not enough time to fully hash them all out. Could I sorta just treat ethical = moral ad personal animosities = insecurities = greed? Or would that be too simplistic?
People want power, therefore conflict and injustice. 'Rive' is a really arcane word to use in this context though :P And that second prompt would probably be too specific for VCAA since it doesn't work for all four texts. But if you get overwhelmed by key terms, then boiling them down to their essence is a smart way to approach things.

Conflict can only be resolved when there is an agreed version of events.

and

Conflict is inevitable, the way we deal with it is not.

^^ What big ideas are these two prompts dealing with? What's the second prompt saying?
1. We can't resolve conflict if people don't see things the same way. Hence, conflict stems from a clash of perspectives, and will persist unless these perspectives can be unified/'agreed upon.'

2. The way we respond to conflict is more important than why it happens.

Just wondering if its okay to draw upon two of the set texts I've learnt as examples in a context expository essay, or whether I should just stay focused on one text throughout.
e.g. In one paragraph I might use the ideas from text A
In the next I might use ideas from text B
You can use both, but you still have to nominate a 'main text drawn upon,' so try to concentrate on one for the most part rather than talking about them both in equal measure.

For encountering conflict, I'm writing a persuasive opinion piece, is it okay to focus it all on one big broad idea such as divorce or the michael ferguson case and then extract my ideas from that? and then throughout link it to a separation?
Absolutely! Just make sure you can create at least one or two overt links to the set text, and maybe use that spark/example as a way into talking about other things (e.g. from divorce to the cultural significance of marriage and tradition, or the Michael Ferguson to racism and the justice system more broadly, etc.)

For those who are doing 'Medea', What can you talk about in the theam Manipulation?
Thanks heaps
Start by thinking about examples of manipulation in the text. For example, would you say Jason manipulates Medea? How about Medea manipulating Aeges? From there, you can build out to thinking about what the author is saying about this theme[/b] (i.e. what is Euripides saying about manipulation based on this evidence?) :)

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1601 on: October 25, 2016, 02:11:55 pm »
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Is it necessary to mention the visual aids accompanying a language analysis piece in the intro?
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1602 on: October 25, 2016, 02:16:30 pm »
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Is it necessary to mention the visual aids accompanying a language analysis piece in the intro?
Nope! Totally optional. You can acknowledge them briefly if you want; some people even give an overview of what they're depicting/suggesting/contending, but it's totally up to you :)

MAKE SURE YOU ANALYSE THE VISUALS IN YOUR BODY PARAGRAPHS THOUGH!!!

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1603 on: October 25, 2016, 02:21:07 pm »
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What are some outside sources for my context essay for whose reality related to death of a salesman?

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« Reply #1604 on: October 25, 2016, 02:26:03 pm »
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What are some outside sources for my context essay for whose reality related to death of a salesman?
The idea of the American Dream is a good place to start; it's a little bit well-worn as a lot of students will discuss this, but it relates to a whole plethora of other concepts like ambition, hope, expectation etc. which in turn can be used as a way into other examples. I also reckon Donald Trump's entire campaign is like one big manipulation of people's realities - like, he's unwittingly done VCE WR students a massive favour by running for present this year because the past year has been like one big case study of clashing subjective realities :P (this vid explains it quite well)

But it depends on what you're using so far - if all your examples are very philosophical/psychological, then you may prefer to delve more so into those theories or concepts, whereas if you prefer historical/political stuff, then that should be what you focus on. If you want, let me know what you've started exploring and I might be able to give you some more specific recommendations :)