VCE English Question Thread

[LPadlan]

Am i allowed to post a Youtube link for my teacher channel? Theres solid summaries and analysis for texts such as Crucible and Year of Wonders.

[halo]

For Medea, do we have to refer to both the traditional and modern audience in our essays? Especially for a prompt like the one below, I feel as if it is important to make that distinction as it is very likely that our responses to Medea and her plight are different to what the traditional male audience might feel. I would assume that, given the strictly patriarchal structure of society, they would be more inclined to support Jason and might be unable to relate to the group of Corinthian women or Medea?

Prompt: “The audience's sympathy remains aligned with the Chorus throughout the play”. Do you agree?

[LifeisaConstantStruggle]

For Medea, do we have to refer to both the traditional and modern audience in our essays? Especially for a prompt like the one below, I feel as if it is important to make that distinction as it is very likely that our responses to Medea and her plight are different to what the traditional male audience might feel. I would assume that, given the strictly patriarchal structure of society, they would be more inclined to support Jason and might be unable to relate to the group of Corinthian women or Medea?

Prompt: “The audience's sympathy remains aligned with the Chorus throughout the play”. Do you agree?

The Ancient Athenian male audience are far more important than the modern audience imo. (this is solely due to the fact that the play is written for a specific religious event, and not for the general public like you and me) Also, it's harder to elaborate on the psychological impact of the play in terms of the modern context as well, unless if you want to go off topic and relate it to social issues then yeah, but in relation to VCE English it's not really required.

[LPadlan]

For language analysis is it actually required to state the persuasive techniques? (eg. Through the use of powerful imagery, the author....) As i'm reading a LA that got 19/20 and i cannot see any sentences that contain a statement of the persuasive technique used.

[clarke54321]

For language analysis is it actually required to state the persuasive techniques? (eg. Through the use of powerful imagery, the author....) As i'm reading a LA that got 19/20 and i cannot see any sentences that contain a statement of the persuasive technique used.

Metalanguage is good to use when you can identify it. But it is by no means necessary to writing a good analysis. Assessors are more concerned with your ability to work closely with your selected evidence- pulling out all intimations/implications/suggestions. This should be your main priority.

In a different vein, is anyone feeling slightly concerned about a hero prompt coming out for Medea. I have an inkling that it may arise  However, in all honesty, I have not spent enough time familiarising myself (either in class or in my own study) with the context of a Greek hero. I find the whole issue way too subjective, and difficult to build into my existing essays. What's everyone's opinion on this?

[LifeisaConstantStruggle]

In a different vein, is anyone feeling slightly concerned about a hero prompt coming out for Medea. I have an inkling that it may arise  However, in all honesty, I have not spent enough time familiarising myself (either in class or in my own study) with the context of a Greek hero. I find the whole issue way too subjective, and difficult to build into my existing essays. What's everyone's opinion on this?

Hey hey I have read about the concerns of people on this topic and heard my friends talking about it. I have an essay on this which touches on the notion of a tragic hero, and I'll upload it if my internet is back up (probs in a few hours) so yeah. I might be able to type up some stuff on the features of Greek tragedies, and an archetypal tragic hero, things like that.
It will be alright tho tbh I don't think they will put something that complex into our exam, but anyways I hope that I can give you guys some preparations to this as well.

Do give my essay a mark tho, if you want to that'd be great

[gnaf]

anyone have an example of how to analyse tone in language analysis? I usually just mention it in the intro then never talk about it again 

[rnrn]

In a different vein, is anyone feeling slightly concerned about a hero prompt coming out for Medea. I have an inkling that it may arise  However, in all honesty, I have not spent enough time familiarising myself (either in class or in my own study) with the context of a Greek hero. I find the whole issue way too subjective, and difficult to build into my existing essays. What's everyone's opinion on this?

Didn't they do a hero one already? I feel like there's going to be one on pride - it's one of the obvious themes that they have yet to touch on.

[clarke54321]

Didn't they do a hero one already? I feel like there's going to be one on pride - it's one of the obvious themes that they have yet to touch on.

Yes, there's already been one on heroism (2001?), which makes me sceptical. True. Pride could come up.

anyone have an example of how to analyse tone in language analysis? I usually just mention it in the intro then never talk about it again 

I usually merge tone analysis with the written language. Ie. The vehement undertones of the phrase X, exemplifies/emphasises/underscores Y (more explanation/analysis).

It is a good spring board

[Mariamnourine]

Didn't they do a hero one already? I feel like there's going to be one on pride - it's one of the obvious themes that they have yet to touch on.
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I feel like they haven't touched on selfishness in Medea yet. So there may be a prompt about selfishness.

[zofromuxo]

Yes, there's already been one on heroism (2001?), which makes me sceptical. True. Pride could come up.

If you referring to VCCA 2001's prompts, there was nothing on heroes.
It could be on the exam.
Although looking at the 2001-02 and 2015-16 VCCA prompts, I think it could be on emotions again and a character based one.
I wouldn't worry about predicting what it would be and instead be ready for any prompt they throw at you.
Who knows it could be the year they give prompts based on play devices like the Chorus' role.

If you guys have any quick question on Medea, my PMs are open. I'm not marking work on it though.

[Rieko Ioane]

Well, VCAA needs to adhere to all skill levels across the entire state so even if they give us a dodgy prompt, it's almost guaranteed the other one won't be.

The trend seems to be 1 theme based prompt and 1 character based prompt, I don't think it's that unlikely they'll give us a hero based prompt for Medea. You don't have to write it in regards to what the paradigm of a Greek hero is anyway. It's English you can write whatever the fuck you want lol.

[LPadlan]

How are you guys memorizing quotes? Eg. Writing it out over and over again etc.  i have a decent quote bank for Medea, but YOW and The crucible is another story...

[rosecookiie]

How are you guys memorizing quotes? Eg. Writing it out over and over again etc.  i have a decent quote bank for Medea, but YOW and The crucible is another story...

I'm doing YOW and The Crucible as well! Try brainstorming the quotes under theme branches and keep doing this until you can pretty much write down all the quotes from memory.

[lyoko]

How are you guys memorizing quotes? Eg. Writing it out over and over again etc.  i have a decent quote bank for Medea, but YOW and The crucible is another story...

Yup basically that, writing it over again and like rosecookiie  said, sort of cluster in groups.

I'm doing YOW and The Crucible as well! Try brainstorming the quotes under theme branches and keep doing this until you can pretty much write down all the quotes from memory.

I'm also doing YOW and TC as well