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Title: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: supergeeeeek on November 11, 2011, 10:46:19 pm
A friends showed me http://www.yourwork.com.au
anyone know if its legit/any good?

Mod Action: This user has been permabanned on the basis of deceptive conduct.

2nd edit: Dumb, or dumbest? Michael Bevilacqua and James Baird - yourwork.com.au
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: burbs on November 11, 2011, 10:48:03 pm
first post...
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: jamesh on November 11, 2011, 10:48:59 pm
yeah a mate linked it to me a while ago, its got some good stuff but i usually write my own notes so i didnt really use it
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: geoftw on November 11, 2011, 10:49:29 pm
it's american and their curriculum is different to vce... stick to VN :)

oh wops... it is Australian xD
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: supergeeeeek on November 11, 2011, 10:50:59 pm
yeah I just created like 5 minutes ago haha  :P
@Jamesh whats it got on there thats good?
Isn't is a .com.au so wouldnt it be australian thought?
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: jamesh on November 11, 2011, 10:54:31 pm
not too sure mate, dont use it that often but im sure theres some stuff on there
sorry im no help
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: funkyducky on November 11, 2011, 11:01:22 pm
it's american and their curriculum is different to vce... stick to VN :)
actually, it's australian and appears to cover vce subjects...hmmm interesting.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: jamesh on November 11, 2011, 11:07:34 pm
it's american and their curriculum is different to vce... stick to VN :)
actually, it's australian and appears to cover vce subjects...hmmm interesting.
yeah i was going to say, its a .com.au so its definitely not going to be American
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: damo707 on November 12, 2011, 01:46:27 pm
Anyone else think "supergeeeeek" is just from "http://www.yourwork.com.au" trying to promote the site?

It looks kinda crap TBH.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: Fyrefly on November 12, 2011, 02:30:54 pm
Jamesh and supergeeeeek share the same IP.
Supergeek has a throwaway email account.
Both accounts have been permabanned on the basis of deceptive conduct.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: taiga on November 12, 2011, 05:19:08 pm
Look guys,  if you're going to try and emulate what we have going on ATARNotes, probably ATARNotes isn't the best place to try and deceptively advertise it.

We have no problem with ethical companies that come here and market their services in a completely honest way, there are a few good examples of this and they are doing very well. There are also examples of people using deceptive methods to do so, and believe me, we will, and have, done everything we can to ensure that our user base isn't being tricked  by dodgy tactics.

We're not anti-competitive if you'd like to put it that way, but we're not going to stand for what you've attempted to do here.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: enwiabe on November 12, 2011, 05:20:51 pm
Look guys,  if you're going to try and emulate what we have going on ATARNotes, probably ATARNotes isn't the best place to try and deceptively advertise it.

We have no problem with ethical companies that come here and market their services in a completely honest way, there are a few good examples of this and they are doing very well. There are also examples of people using deceptive methods to do so, and believe me, we will, and have, done everything we can to ensure that our user base isn't being tricked  by dodgy tactics.

We're not anti-competitive if you'd like to put it that way, but we're not going to stand for what you've attempted to do here.

I'll also add that we've helped to put a company out of business before by exposing them as frauds. We'll happily do it again.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: damo707 on November 12, 2011, 05:34:12 pm
LOL. That is all.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: yourwork on November 12, 2011, 09:03:50 pm
Look guys,  if you're going to try and emulate what we have going on ATARNotes, probably ATARNotes isn't the best place to try and deceptively advertise it.

We have no problem with ethical companies that come here and market their services in a completely honest way, there are a few good examples of this and they are doing very well. There are also examples of people using deceptive methods to do so, and believe me, we will, and have, done everything we can to ensure that our user base isn't being tricked  by dodgy tactics.

We're not anti-competitive if you'd like to put it that way, but we're not going to stand for what you've attempted to do here.

I'll also add that we've helped to put a company out of business before by exposing them as frauds. We'll happily do it again.

This is sufficiently awkward because we played no role in this. We actually refer to ourself as yourwork and do not need to 'hide' behind these fake accounts people have made. We know how this looks and it's not good from where we are standing however it wasn't until we noticed an unusual spike in referals from here that we decided to come check it out. I'm sure by now you would have realised that this 'imposter' was infact not any stunt to draw attention to yourwork.com.au by us and that our IP addresses are not the same as this person/people. We have a fairly good idea of who it was and this person has absolutely no affialiation with us or our site however we are not pointing fingers until we know who it was as you too should have done. We respectfully ask that you delete this post as publishing these accusations does constitute defamation. We regret that this was how it turned out however we understand how it makes us look hence we hope you would oblige with our requests. We also ask that you delete any further post which tries to do the same thing that this has done in order to avoid future problems.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: Russ on November 12, 2011, 09:09:03 pm
My highly paid legal team internet lawyer degree tells me that it's not defamation
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: ProtonStar on November 12, 2011, 09:10:44 pm
Lol, so now what?
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: damo707 on November 12, 2011, 09:10:58 pm
(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/9/8/83ee68c4-8d2e-412e-a92c-f8e1fd60823d.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: paulsterio on November 12, 2011, 09:12:25 pm
I'll also add that we've helped to put a company out of business before by exposing them as frauds. We'll happily do it again.

which company was that? :O

if only you guys could drive medentry out of business as well! that would be quite nice :P
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: ninwa on November 12, 2011, 09:13:08 pm
We respectfully ask that you delete this post as publishing these accusations does constitute defamation.

no it doesn't
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: paulsterio on November 12, 2011, 09:14:36 pm
off topic, but JarrydIsBored, your subjects are gold, you've taken 11 different subjects!! :P

We respectfully ask that you delete this post as publishing these accusations does constitute defamation.
no it doesn't

SHUT DOWN! :P
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: nacho on November 12, 2011, 09:18:30 pm
My highly paid legal team internet lawyer degree tells me that it's not defamation
get the legal studies boys in here
oh wait I do legal studies.
What can I say.... I have no idea, despite the fact my exam is in two days :(

HOWEVER!
I do know that If you kill someone and satisy mens rea and actus reus - it is classified as murder :D
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: ProtonStar on November 12, 2011, 09:19:53 pm
Quote
off topic, but JarrydIsBored, your subjects are gold, you've taken 11 different subjects!! :P
People called me crazy, but I really wanted to try a range of subjects to see where my interests were :P Funnily enough, I prefer the Maths/Science subjects (which I took in Year 11) which is why I'm off to do a Bachelor of Science :D Thank god I didn't need methods or a science to get in! (Well if that was the case, I would have kept those subjects haha)
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: yourwork on November 12, 2011, 09:20:35 pm
Yes it does constitute defamation actually.
Defamation = 3 things
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: ninwa on November 12, 2011, 09:21:37 pm
and now read up on the defences to defamation mr internet lawyer
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: MJRomeo81 on November 12, 2011, 09:22:37 pm
Yes it does constitute defamation actually.
Defamation = 3 things
  • Making a defamatory statement (certainly this has lowered Your Work's reputation)
  • Made known to a third person (again you can track the views yourself)
  • Caused damage (financial, physical, mental) to Your Work (remains to be seen but certainly on ATAR Notes it has.

Hahahahaha mate you think you're a lawyer because you do legal studies.

A statement can't be defamatory if it is of trivial nature. GTFO
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: yourwork on November 12, 2011, 09:23:19 pm
Best defence to defamation is that it was the truth - prove it...

I think you'll struggle
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: yourwork on November 12, 2011, 09:24:29 pm
Yes it does constitute defamation actually.
Defamation = 3 things
  • Making a defamatory statement (certainly this has lowered Your Work's reputation)
  • Made known to a third person (again you can track the views yourself)
  • Caused damage (financial, physical, mental) to Your Work (remains to be seen but certainly on ATAR Notes it has.

Hahahahaha mate you think you're a lawyer because you do legal studies.

A statement can't be defamatory if it is of trivial nature. GTFO

That's where you're wrong. Look at the response this is getting. Proving that it's not trivial
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: MJRomeo81 on November 12, 2011, 09:26:14 pm
Yes it does constitute defamation actually.
Defamation = 3 things
  • Making a defamatory statement (certainly this has lowered Your Work's reputation)
  • Made known to a third person (again you can track the views yourself)
  • Caused damage (financial, physical, mental) to Your Work (remains to be seen but certainly on ATAR Notes it has.

Hahahahaha mate you think you're a lawyer because you do legal studies.

A statement can't be defamatory if it is of trivial nature. GTFO

That's where you're wrong. Look at the response this is getting. Proving that it's not trivial
Yeah bro. Because the court is going to waste its resources over something like this. You make me laugh.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: damo707 on November 12, 2011, 09:27:26 pm
Best defence to defamation is that it was the truth - prove it...

I think you'll struggle

Arguing with people on this forum really isn't helping your reputation. Kinda defaming yourself...
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: yourwork on November 12, 2011, 09:27:58 pm
You think we're really going to go to court? Please...

If you get back to the original post we stated that we would like this thread removed as it constitutes defamation. I think that's more than obvious
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: ninwa on November 12, 2011, 09:28:19 pm
This is exactly what happened with Pathway2Genius, except at least their CEO had the common decency to apologise, even though in their case the person responsible was also not associated with their organisation.

Nice try but you're not going to intimidate us with petty claims of defamation.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: Fyrefly on November 12, 2011, 09:28:30 pm
Someone's having fun with proxies... This account has been banned: yourwork.com.au
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: damo707 on November 12, 2011, 09:30:13 pm
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/7/28/gtfo128617320957927203.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: taiga on November 12, 2011, 09:31:20 pm
Could you care to please explain another account registered to your 'company' email utilizing a proxy to get onto our forums?

If your claims are true surely you guys only need one account from your own IP to get onto the forums?
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: vivj on November 12, 2011, 09:34:59 pm
We respectfully ask that you delete this post as publishing these accusations does constitute defamation.

no it doesn't

Just putting it out there, it's just an opinion. No need to get too upset, opinion happens.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: burbs on November 12, 2011, 09:51:13 pm
This thread is pumping me up for my legal exam. Thank you.

Also: called it (see: first reply in the thread). Nobody ever listens to burbs...
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: enwiabe on November 12, 2011, 09:57:49 pm
Yourwork has PMed us (the admins) to apologise for their actions and have admitted their guilt in this fiasco. This matter is now considered closed, and this topic is now locked.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: taiga on November 12, 2011, 10:06:00 pm
I would say that guilt was not accepted in that PM.

What if I was able to link the email that 'Jamesh' is registered to, to one of the owners of YourWork? Michael.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: enwiabe on November 12, 2011, 10:08:23 pm
I would say that guilt was not accepted in that PM.

What if I was able to link the email that 'Jamesh' is registered to, to one of the owners of YourWork? Michael.

This matter is now considered reopened! And a massive "OWNED LOLZ" post is forthcoming :)

Enjoy, everyone!
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: ProtonStar on November 12, 2011, 10:09:46 pm
I would say that guilt was not accepted in that PM.

What if I was able to link the email that 'Jamesh' is registered to, to one of the owners of YourWork? Michael.

This matter is now considered reopened! And a massive "OWNED LOLZ" post is forthcoming :)

Enjoy, everyone!

OWNED LOLZ
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: Ghost! on November 12, 2011, 10:33:34 pm
Damn I was a little late to come into this, but I was going to comment on the whole IP address situation. Changing your IP address is so easy even the most novice of people could do so as I'm sure many people here know, and the fact that yourwork so quickly identified the difference addresses between themselves and the original offenders only makes it more apparent that they had switched - they wanted the fact that they had changed to be clear to everyone.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: ninwa on November 12, 2011, 11:43:23 pm
Dumb, or dumbest? Michael Bevilacqua and James Baird - yourwork.com.au
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: Random_Guy on November 17, 2011, 11:12:53 am
I lol'd.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: aiming_95 on November 17, 2011, 11:51:33 am
I lol'd.


Seems to be the general consensus.
Title: Re: Anyone know much about this site? www.yourwork.com.au
Post by: selim31 on November 17, 2011, 07:09:16 pm
You think we're really going to go to court? Please...

If you get back to the original post we stated that we would like this thread removed as it constitutes defamation. I think that's more than obvious

As a student of Legal Studies I know that there are much cheaper options to have a dispute resolved.  I even wrote my own Legal Exam due to the high level of Boredom I have encountered.