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Archived Discussion => 2014 => Results Discussion => Victoria => 2011 => Topic started by: luken93 on December 24, 2011, 07:23:15 pm
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Got 44 in Spesh. Thought i only dropped one mark in both combined :(. Eagerly awaiting SOM to see what happened. Anyone surprised/dissapointed with SOM for Spesh?
Oh, and well done Bazza16 for awesome Bio score. Really commendable effort. ;)
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Yeah really surprised. Lost 11 marks total for Methods, get 44. Lost 7.5 marks in Spesh, got 42.
So 7.5 marks in spesh lost 8 SS...(and yeah, I was #1 rank)
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That's a big surprise their. Results wise, sounds like Methods was again a statistically harder exam than Spesh. Also, explains why it was so hard to get 45+ in spesh this year. Friend got 49 and thought he full marked both (at MHS, with the SAC scaling, that would generally have to be 50)
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Yeah really surprised. Lost 11 marks total for Methods, get 44. Lost 7.5 marks in Spesh, got 42.
So 7.5 marks in spesh lost 8 SS...(and yeah, I was #1 rank)
Probably because spesh was quite easy this year, hell I even thought both spesh exams were easier than the methods exams, so those stupid errors in exam 1 that I made (Luken you know what I'm on about) cost me more than usual! But the scaling paid off for it. Not ordering a SOM since I want to try and forget those idiotic mistakes I made.
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That's a big surprise their. Results wise, sounds like Methods was again a statistically harder exam than Spesh. Also, explains why it was so hard to get 45+ in spesh this year. Friend got 49 and thought he full marked both (at MHS, with the SAC scaling, that would generally have to be 50)
I swear, did they not give 50s or something this year :P
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A+ cutoff 47
Assuming out of 60?
Spesh - SS 42
Exam 1 35/40 (B+ cutoff 32.5-35.5/40)
WOW! B+ cutoff = lose 4.5 marks? That Exam must've been quite "easy"
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IMO, many people may have been dogged by SACs that were really hard. SACS may have come into play as exam was not that great of a differentiator as compared to MM exams
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A+ cutoff 47
Assuming out of 60?
Spesh - SS 42
Exam 1 35/40 (B+ cutoff 32.5-35.5/40)
WOW! B+ cutoff = lose 4.5 marks? That Exam must've been quite "easy"
Yep. And yeah, not really any differentiator questions...shame I had to make stupid mistakes :(
IMO, many people may have been dogged by SACs that were really hard. SACS may have come into play as exam was not that great of a differentiator as compared to MM exams
Yeah no doubt, I got to a pretty average school so that wouldn't have helped me at all..
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Damn. I guess we can just look with relief at all the scaling that went on, it compensated massively! ;)
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Damn. I guess we can just look with relief at all the scaling that went on, it compensated massively! ;)
Like you needed to worry anyway :P
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anyone know the psych/legal a+ cuttoff? ty
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Damn. I guess we can just look with relief at all the scaling that went on, it compensated massively! ;)
Like you needed to worry anyway :P
ha ha! True that, but i really thought that 45+ was possible after the exam, thats all :)
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Damn. I guess we can just look with relief at all the scaling that went on, it compensated massively! ;)
Like you needed to worry anyway :P
ha ha! True that, but i really thought that 45+ was possible after the exam, thats all :)
Hahaha yeah I know the feeling, I thought that 4 marks in exam 1 and (what I thought) was full marks exam 2, I'd be a safe bet. Kind of a bit of a shock when I looked at results :o
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hope i get mine on tuesday :D LOL! =.="
i stupidly sent it out on tuesday, which meant that it wouldn't get to vcaa until wednesday at the earliest =.="
how'd everyone get theirs so quickly?!
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I faxed mine on Monday and received it on Friday :)
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I faxed mine on Monday and received it on Friday :)
+1
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Btw, in terms of spesh, I'm thinking I lost 1 mark on exam 1 and lost 4 marks on exam 2, which seems reasonable, considering Luke lost 7.5 marks for a 42
I found that the 4 marks lost on exam 2, the a = i question and the last part of the last question (volume) were kinda differentiator questions, i kicked myself afterwards cause i should have got them, but dammit, i swear you would have had to get 40 and 80 to have gotten a 50 this year in spesh
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after knowing lukens score.. Im quite surprised at how I got 45..
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after knowing lukens score.. Im quite surprised at how I got 45..
you probably got one more mark than me, i think that was that stupid mark i lost in exam 1 (if i actually lost it :P LOL!)
btw, i love how people call luken93 "luken" :D
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after knowing lukens score.. Im quite surprised at how I got 45..
btw, i love how people call luken93 "luken" :D
hahaha I know :P
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Psychology u4 2011 Exam Information:
Cut off: 74/90
Controversial MCQ answers? 4B, 5A, 31AorD, 38A, 40AorB
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What d'you get snake?
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Where do u get the A+ cut-offs for end of year exams?
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Where do u get the A+ cut-offs for end of year exams?
You can get them by:
- ordering a statement of marks. This will give you the cutoff for the grade you receive (seeing you got 5 50's I'm assuming you would've received A+ for all of those subjects [any bets you're interested in spesh, though])
- having a search around all the statement of marks threads and hoping that someone received an A+ in the subject you're looking for
- waiting for the grade distributions to come out
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i got 5/10 (10/20) for English Language Analysis, I'm going to punch someone, what the hell?!?!?!!!!!! everything else was 45+ capable! :(
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i got 5/10 (10/20) for English Language Analysis, I'm going to punch someone, what the hell?!?!?!!!!!! everything else was 45+ capable! :(
Ouch!
Despite the low A+ of Methods Exam 2, 2 marks still knocked you off the fifer :o
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Ouch!
Despite the low A+ of Methods Exam 2, 2 marks still knocked you off the fifer :o
yeah, I was really surprised at the English mark, I didn't expect to do that badly in the Language Analysis, I swear I'm actually annoyed cause it was a bad article, like I reckon I'm reasonable at Language Analysis, I'm not that bad! =.=
yeah, I kind of expected it for methods though, like even though the A+ cut-off is low, there would still be a high concentration near the 100% mark, I know that 40/40 and 79/80 would get the 50 though (friend's statement).
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Hey, just out of curiosity, my friend got A+ for all GAs on eco and 87.5/90 and ended up with a 44 (the exam score has returned a premier's in the past). Does anyone know why eco was hard to score highly in this year/ know anything about why this could have happened?
The exam median for eco was...?
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Hey, just out of curiosity, my friend got A+ for all GAs on eco and 87.5/90 and ended up with a 44 (the exam score has returned a premier's in the past). Does anyone know why eco was hard to score highly in this year/ know anything about why this could have happened?
The exam median for eco was...?
It could well simply be that the A+s for the other two GAs were very low - a victim of scaling perhaps?
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SACs were A+ at MHS i'm pretty sure
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Hey, just out of curiosity, my friend got A+ for all GAs on eco and 87.5/90 and ended up with a 44 (the exam score has returned a premier's in the past). Does anyone know why eco was hard to score highly in this year/ know anything about why this could have happened?
The exam median for eco was...?
I know someone got a 50 with 86.5/90. I definitely dropped at least 2 marks... probably more.
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his sacs must have been shit
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Bit harsh, but that's one way of putting it. he had a really tight teacher so I guess its not always fair.
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in a cohort like economics, which is fair small, sacs matter considerably more than what people think. I was on the receiving end of bad sacs as well.
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SACs were A+ at MHS i'm pretty sure
Eh, MHS doesn't *necessarily* mean anything though; SAC scaling is subject exclusive, after all, and even MHS could have a weak economics department?
It could be worth him getting a statement of study score, though, as it will tell him his numerical SAC marks before and after scaling.
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It could be worth him getting a statement of study score, though, as it will tell him his numerical SAC marks before and after scaling.
With the SoSS does it give you your mark out of say 100 for SACs?
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yeah i'm pretty sure MHS eco isn't great
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44 is pretty harsh with such a high exam score though...
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I got all multis correct and overall got 82.5/90. My sacs weren't great, ranked 13 out of about 35 in a strong cohort (number of ss ranging all the way from 40-47, which i guess is great for a relatively niche subject like eco). SACs ended up scaling to 94/100, which i think is the A+ cut off. So i guess, 50% was a low A+, while the other 50% was a medium-high A+, which yielded a study score of 42. Also the A+ cut off was higher than previous years, so looks like sacs have a fair influence
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It could be worth him getting a statement of study score, though, as it will tell him his numerical SAC marks before and after scaling.
With the SoSS does it give you your mark out of say 100 for SACs?
Yep.
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yeah i'm pretty sure MHS eco isn't great
Pretty sure thats wrong. We had many 40+ scores including a couple of raw 49-ers. Thats very good in comparison to most eco cohorts imo.
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From the people who had their scores publicly posted MHS had 49, 47, 46, 44, 42, 41, 41, 40. I wouldn't say that's a necessarily weak cohort, unless an excessive amount of people study the subject there (which is improbable?)
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Should say (based on results thread) congrats to Sickle for her English score and Paulsterio for his whopping mark on the endofyear physics exam!
DUDE Paul: what was the physics cutoff?
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From the people who had their scores publicly posted MHS had 49, 47, 46, 44, 42, 41, 41, 40. I wouldn't say that's a necessarily weak cohort, unless an excessive amount of people study the subject there (which is improbable?)
Thats not including the year 11s (cos mhs stuffed up the publication permissions) that did eco, whch includes a 50 and a 49 afaik.
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^^There were more scores in the 40s from yr11s too :)
MHS eco is pretty good actually.
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Mate it's better than many may think with those scores. Probs had a scaled A+ not a raw A+.
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Thushan, and others, I don't know the cut-off for Unit 4 Physics - I got a Statement of Study Score, didn't get an Exam Marks Statement for Physics. I only got Exam Marks Statement for English and Spesh.
In regards to Economics, the fact that SACs are 50% means a lot, like in English SACs are 50% and no doubt, SACs really bailed me out of trouble, you wouldn't expect a 42 with an exam score of 45/60. (A is 42 to 46)
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Forum User Name: Istafa
Chemistry:
GA1: 71/72 (A+ Cutoff was 61.5)
GA2: Rank 2 at MHS 98/100 Raw (didn't get SoSS)
GA3: 68.5/72 (A+ Cutoff was 62.5)
Specialist Maths:
GA1: School: 96/100 Final: 96/100
GA2: 39/40 (A+ cutoff was 38.5)
GA3: 78/80 (A+ cutoff was 71.5)
Chem U3: WOOO! YEAH !!!! :)
Spesh: MHS sacs didn't scale for some reason?? LOL :)
Happy overall, didn't get English. Dropped a mark on the graph at end of exam 2 for Spesh, thought i labelled everything but obviously not :o
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English SS 48
GA1 & GA2: (SACs):
197/200 (rank 1 MHS)
GA3: 1: 20/20 | 2: 20/20 | 3: 15/20
Chemistry SS 50
GA1: (Exam 1): 67/72
GA2: (SACs): Raw: 99/100 (Rank 1 MHS)
GA3: (Exam 2): 71/72
See discussion thread
Specialist maths SS 45
GA1: ? didn't get SoSS
GA2: 39.5/40
GA3: 78.5/80
Reason for <=197/200 in SACs in English: Looking at Sickle's scores (SS 50), Sickle lost 6 marks all up. I lost 5 marks in the exam, so if I lost 2 marks in SACs, i would have lost 7 marks all up and most likely got a 49. Since I got a 48, I must have lost 8 or more marks all up, hence <=197 in the SACs. Since I got rank 1 at MHS sacs, does this mean nobody got >197 in SACs at MHS? Curious to know.
BTW: bombed that Language analysis... :)
Unlikely to get Premiers for Chem though. :)
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English SS 48
GA1 & GA2: (SACs):
197/200 (rank 1 MHS)
GA3: 1: 20/20 | 2: 20/20 | 3: 15/20
Chemistry SS 50
GA1: (Exam 1): 67/72
GA2: (SACs): Raw: 99/100 (Rank 1 MHS)
GA3: (Exam 2): 71/72
See discussion thread
Specialist maths SS 45
GA1: ? didn't get SoSS
GA2: 39.5/40
GA3: 78.5/80
Reason for <=197/200 in SACs in English: Looking at Sickle's scores (SS 50), Sickle lost 6 marks all up. I lost 5 marks in the exam, so if I lost 2 marks in SACs, i would have lost 7 marks all up and most likely got a 49. Since I got a 48, I must have lost 8 or more marks all up, hence <=197 in the SACs. Since I got rank 1 at MHS sacs, does this mean nobody got >197 in SACs at MHS? Curious to know.
BTW: bombed that Language analysis... :)
Unlikely to get Premiers for Chem though. :)
I find it hard to understand how 39.5 and 78.5 does not get 48+ ? Did you have an abysmal SAC ranking?
Edit: Just checked Istafa's SAC scores. Hmmm....3 marks dropped across exams and 4 marks of SACs only gets a 44. Jeesh...I guess that one needs pretty much full marks for 47+
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English: [50]
Text Response: 20/20
Context: 20/20
Language Analysis: 18/20 :(
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English: [50]
Text Response: 20/20
Context: 20/20
Language Analysis: 18/20 :(
Congrats man!! Lang analysis: as if ":("
I better start crying then LOL :P
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English SS 48
GA1 & GA2: (SACs):
197/200 (rank 1 MHS)
GA3: 1: 20/20 | 2: 20/20 | 3: 15/20
Chemistry SS 50
GA1: (Exam 1): 67/72
GA2: (SACs): Raw: 99/100 (Rank 1 MHS)
GA3: (Exam 2): 71/72
See discussion thread
Specialist maths SS 45
GA1: ? didn't get SoSS
GA2: 39.5/40
GA3: 78.5/80
Reason for <=197/200 in SACs in English: Looking at Sickle's scores (SS 50), Sickle lost 6 marks all up. I lost 5 marks in the exam, so if I lost 2 marks in SACs, i would have lost 7 marks all up and most likely got a 49. Since I got a 48, I must have lost 8 or more marks all up, hence <=197 in the SACs. Since I got rank 1 at MHS sacs, does this mean nobody got >197 in SACs at MHS? Curious to know.
BTW: bombed that Language analysis... :)
Unlikely to get Premiers for Chem though. :)
I find it hard to understand how 39.5 and 78.5 does not get 48+ ? Did you have an abysmal SAC ranking?
Edit: Just checked Istafa's SAC scores. Hmmm....3 marks dropped across exams and 4 marks of SACs only gets a 44. Jeesh...I guess that one needs pretty much full marks for 47+
That pretty much sums it up. I marginally beat Istafa in the SACs as well, so for very high 40's its pretty much full marks.
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Bloody hell.
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Bloody hell.
Go on...
Also, Thushan, did you get any statements?
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Ahaha "bloody hell" kinda sums Istafa's and Samad's statements up.
Nup, didnt get any. Don't wanna remind myself about VCE anymore - it's over for me :D apart from tuition
And I dont want to think about whether I'd get premiers for anything - as far as I'm concerned, not getting any this year. :D
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Bloody hell.
Positive or negative intonation?
AH I get it: both?
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Haha neither. More like a WTF than anything!
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Specialist Maths:
GA1: School: 96/100 Final: 96/100
GA2: 39/40 (A+ cutoff was 38.5)
GA3: 78/80 (A+ cutoff was 71.5)
Wtf how is that not a 47-49... I'd hate to be someone that got a 48-49 Because there scores would probably be like
GA1: 99/100
GA2: 39/40
GA3: 79/80
Seems so unfair that the people that get 50s arent necessarily the best at the end of the day they were just the ones that didn't make any stupid mistakes or got lucky...
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Specialist Maths:
GA1: School: 96/100 Final: 96/100
GA2: 39/40 (A+ cutoff was 38.5)
GA3: 78/80 (A+ cutoff was 71.5)
Wtf how is that not a 47-49... I'd hate to be someone that got a 48-49 Because there scores would probably be like
GA1: 99/100
GA2: 39/40
GA3: 79/80
Seems so unfair that the people that get 50s arent necessarily the best at the end of the day they were just the ones that didn't make any stupid mistakes or got lucky...
This is most subjects. Especially further.
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Got English today.
GA1 95 --->98/100
GA2 100 --->100/100
GA3 47/60
SS 43
47 was the A+ cut-off. FML Text response 18, Context 15, LA 14.
I reckon it's partly cos I didn't really talk about the pictures :S Little surprised, got "definitely 10" for my practice exam LA and another I did pre-exam, so I didn't do any LAs during swotvac, it was my best section... oh well. Now I know where I lost marks, I can have my peace of mind. A 7 and 8 for a 2 page context essay isn't so bad, and my text response score is good, two 9s :D Disappointed, but my mind is at ease now.
I'm a slow thinker and a slow writer, I can't do essays under time pressure. Give me time and I'll give you the best pieces of writing you've ever seen, but when I'm short on time, I just can't work as well.
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FD, it's not only you, at least 14/20 is bearable, I got 10/20 for LA after pretty much hitting the nail on the head for my LA SAC and doing well in LAs throughout practice exams =.="
Btw, I'm suprised at context, I wrote a really short piece as well (in 35 mins ;D) and scored well in comparison to spending the 1hr 10min on LA :(
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Istafa, on Spesh you scored 96, 39, 78 and I scored 100, 39.5, 74.5 and we got the same study score, don't you find that a little weird? haha! D: it's intrigued me now!! Samad got the same as me on Exam 1 and beat me by 4 marks and got a study score 1 higher than me, I guess either, SACs actually mean a lot, or there were A LOT of people who did VERY well in spesh this year :S
Anyways, touching on the other topic that's been on my mind, I dropped a mark on tha t graph too, although I don't know why either, ahh dammitt! but hmm, I guess SACs bailed me out of trouble in spesh as well :D (*relief*)
I'm finally satisfied to say, as well, that methods is a lot more lenient than spesh, dropping 2 marks on Exam 2 and ending up with a 49, I don't think that would happen in Spesh ;D
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FD, it's not only you, at least 14/20 is bearable, I got 10/20 for LA after pretty much hitting the nail on the head for my LA SAC and doing well in LAs throughout practice exams =.="
Btw, I'm suprised at context, I wrote a really short piece as well (in 35 mins ;D) and scored well in comparison to spending the 1hr 10min on LA :(
did you get 10's for context and text response, since you got a 5 in LA o:
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did you get 10's for context and text response, since you got a 5 in LA o:
No :P I got 9/10 for Text and 8.5/10 for Context, but I did well on SACs, 98/100 and 100/100, so I guess that helped me a lot, I got an A on the exam (45/60)
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Specialist Maths:
GA1: School: 96/100 Final: 96/100
GA2: 39/40 (A+ cutoff was 38.5)
GA3: 78/80 (A+ cutoff was 71.5)
Wtf how is that not a 47-49... I'd hate to be someone that got a 48-49 Because there scores would probably be like
GA1: 99/100
GA2: 39/40
GA3: 79/80
Seems so unfair that the people that get 50s arent necessarily the best at the end of the day they were just the ones that didn't make any stupid mistakes or got lucky...
This is most subjects. Especially further.
I new that Further would be like that. But Spesh? I thought there would be more leniency...
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Further isn't even that bad really. I think I lost 5-6 marks over both and still got 45.
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Further isn't even that bad really. I think I lost 5-6 marks over both and still got 45.
That's still bad in comparison to some subjects. In some subjects, you can lose 5 marks or more, over both Exams and score a 50. e.g. samad lost 6 marks across both Chemistry Exams and received a 50.
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Further isn't even that bad really. I think I lost 5-6 marks over both and still got 45.
It's weird this year.. Im sure i lost at least 6 marks (best case), but leaning towards 8 marks in further exam 2.
Ended up with 46 o.O
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Further isn't even that bad really. I think I lost 5-6 marks over both and still got 45.
I lost 35-38 marks over both psych exams and got a 42..
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Further isn't even that bad really. I think I lost 5-6 marks over both and still got 45.
I lost 35-38 marks over both psych exams and got a 42..
Psych you can lose quite a bit, particularly this year with such a low A+ cut off. In 2010, I lost 20.5 marks over both exams and got 44.
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Figured out what migh have happened with MHS sacs and why no scaling: They scale internally so VCAA barely changes them (only a speculation)
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cocked up the written examination in french, my oral saved me.
English waqs a bit weird. Throughout the whole year, id been relatively shit at context, and boning text responses and language analysis. The opposite happened in the exam. half a mark away from a 50 though is frustratingly close,
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Has anyone here heard of or even gotten a statement of marks for a subject they got a 50 for? lol Im tempted to scrape $9 and see :P
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yeah I know a mte whogot one for bio
he fucking raped it
147/150 for bio. Which is amazing, pretty much top of the state.
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Has anyone here heard of or even gotten a statement of marks for a subject they got a 50 for? lol Im tempted to scrape $9 and see :P
haha i got mine, you should definately get it ! :P
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yeah I know a mte whogot one for bio
he fucking raped it
147/150 for bio. Which is amazing, pretty much top of the state.
Wow that's amazing. Friend of mine in 2010 got 150/150 for the Unit 4 exam.
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yeah I know a mte whogot one for bio
he fucking raped it
147/150 for bio. Which is amazing, pretty much top of the state.
Was he the dude who got 148/150 in the midyear?
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nah he wasn't. Did someone actually get 148/150? :S
i heard of so many great scores that i'm slightly suprised my 70/71 netted me a 50 especially with the high 64.5 cut off in exam 2
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nah he wasn't. Did someone actually get 148/150? :S
i heard of so many great scores that i'm slightly suprised my 70/71 netted me a 50 especially with the high 64.5 cut off in exam 2
Dw I know what you mean. Bio is weird like that. BUT CONGRATS DUDE.
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Hey Jdog if i had a 187/200 for the French oral and i got something similar for the written what would have i got. Unfortunately i did really really terrible in the written - so i was just curious.
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Hey guys, what statement do I get if I want to know what I got in my exam for English? The statement of Marks yeah? Not the Study Score? But a lot of you guys have bought both?
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Hey guys, what statement do I get if I want to know what I got in my exam for English? The statement of Marks yeah? Not the Study Score? But a lot of you guys have bought both?
Statement of Marks.
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Anyone here know how many marks you can lose across both exams for chem to get 50?
Lowest I've seen is 6.
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Anyone here know how many marks you can lose across both exams for chem to get 50?
Lowest I've seen is 6.
So if in 2011, you had the #1 sac rank, and got 69/72 for both exams (and they were the best exam scores in your cohort) you would be guaranteed 50?
Within reason, yeah it COULD be, don't wanna make any outlandish statements though..
Re: Statement of Marks - Results Thread
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Ah, what the hell - I'll buy my statements! Yes, curiosity killed the cat.
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Ah, what the hell - I'll buy my statements! Yes, curiosity killed the cat.
yesssss hahahaha
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i got 44 for psych and 35 for chinese (scaled up to 46)...worked my butt off so how am i spose to get higher this year...eek!
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ohhhhhh can u still buy the statements now? if we can, can u please give me more info? :) thanks!
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i got 44 for psych and 35 for chinese (scaled up to 46)...worked my butt off so how am i spose to get higher this year...eek!
Reflect on your performance, continue what you did well and try learn from your mistakes. PS congrats on your study scores.
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thanks! :) easier said than done but i will try!!!
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"Blank", those are fantastic scores! You're obviously doing something right.
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"Blank", those are fantastic scores! You're obviously doing something right.
thanks :) but i would like to get higher, i want those scores to be my 5th and 6th :D
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"Blank", those are fantastic scores! You're obviously doing something right.
thanks :) but i would like to get higher, i want those scores to be my 5th and 6th :D
you've got some pretty high standards. :P
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haha yeah...just hope it doesnt lead to burnout! XD
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"Blank", those are fantastic scores! You're obviously doing something right.
thanks :) but i would like to get higher, i want those scores to be my 5th and 6th :D
that was my goal and i succedeed :D
i had 36 from chinese and 45 from bio.. and i made them my 5th and 6th :D
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"Blank", those are fantastic scores! You're obviously doing something right.
thanks :) but i would like to get higher, i want those scores to be my 5th and 6th :D
that was my goal and i succedeed :D
i had 36 from chinese and 45 from bio.. and i made them my 5th and 6th :D
oooohhh ok...i'm inspired now!! haha :)
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LOST 2 HALF MARKS ON ACCOUNTING END OF YEAR D: SOOO CLOSEEE TO FULL MARKS D:
ahh well got the 50 anyways :P
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LOST 2 HALF MARKS ON ACCOUNTING END OF YEAR D: SOOO CLOSEEE TO FULL MARKS D:
ahh well got the 50 anyways :P
i know how you feel! although i got perfect score, i hate helen day for losing me 2 marks haha.
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Someone decipher how they ACTUALLY calculate the spesh study score PLZ :P