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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: Starlight on October 09, 2012, 08:19:21 pm
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Just wondering how everyone's approaching the exam in terms of studying.
I myself hate cramming so i've knocked out 7 lectures for the moment (genetics) and am memorizing 3 lectures every second day (plus trying to study 3 other exams at the same time because of my hectic exam timetable).
I hate zoology >.< so many terms!! Also (offtopic): practically failed the plant prac today :'(
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I don't do this subject, but I envy your motivation and work ethic! I'm trying to begin exam preparation too but it's a bit of a struggle, getting started is the hardest part :@
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I don't do this subject, but I envy your motivation and work ethic! I'm trying to begin exam preparation too but it's a bit of a struggle, getting started is the hardest part :@
Of course haha.
I'd start out by writing your own exam study timetable, i've made a calendar with the days i'll be studying certain lectures of subjects.
Also make a checklist of the lectures you have covered :D
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Yeah I really need to write out a study timetable I think, at least it will keep me on task. But I really don't like using something this rigid it seems rather, well, lame... :P lol I like to try keep up with it myself, but I guess I really should do that.
Also memorising 3 lectures every 2nd day! :O GOOD JOB! Pat on the back for that :) Do you memorise the entire lecture slide? Like all the theory/definitions, questions/examples etc?
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Yeah I really need to write out a study timetable I think, at least it will keep me on task. But I really don't like using something this rigid it seems rather, well, lame... :P lol I like to try keep up with it myself, but I guess I really should do that.
Also memorising 3 lectures every 2nd day! :O GOOD JOB! Pat on the back for that :) Do you memorise the entire lecture slide? Like all the theory/definitions, questions/examples etc?
Lol not word by word. Just the key points, I mean for things like chemistry it's more like 30% memorizing, the rest is practice exams. Sometimes I think you just have to 'predict' what is going to be on the exam.
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@El2012 So you just memorise the key points from each lecture? How do you manage to do that? I don't think I could memorise every lecture.
How are you going to study for the Intercultural Communcation exam? Do you think anything from the guest lecturers will be on there?
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@El2012 So you just memorise the key points from each lecture? How do you manage to do that? I don't think I could memorise every lecture.
How are you going to study for the Intercultural Communcation exam? Do you think anything from the guest lecturers will be on there?
No idea claireb, I just hope for the best and if i've learnt it before, like in high school or it's common knowledge there's not really much of a point in looking over and over that concept when I could look at new concepts.
Nah nothing like that sherpa lecture, I think it was more of an insight into ethnography of communication.
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I promise i'll start revising soon..I've been telling myself that for the past two weeks -.- sigh*
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So... whose joining me for summer subjects? T_T
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me! Chem 2.... :(
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So... whose joining me for summer subjects? T_T
what summer subject are you doing seretide?
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So... whose joining me for summer subjects? T_T
what summer subject are you doing seretide?
Ahh well.. if i actually were going to be doing summer subjects it would probably be biology. And i do hope it isn't , well, for any of my subjects actually!
And, Ummm.. your question confused me though - did you mean it seriously or going along with the joke of my predicted failure for the exams lol?
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So... whose joining me for summer subjects? T_T
what summer subject are you doing seretide?
Ahh well.. if i actually were going to be doing summer subjects it would probably be biology. And i do hope it isn't , well, for any of my subjects actually!
And, Ummm.. your question confused me though - did you mean it seriously or going along with the joke of my predicted failure for the exams lol?
haha i took it seriously because of jinny1's response.
I understand now lol, what are finding hard about bio?
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So... whose joining me for summer subjects? T_T
what summer subject are you doing seretide?
Ahh well.. if i actually were going to be doing summer subjects it would probably be biology. And i do hope it isn't , well, for any of my subjects actually!
And, Ummm.. your question confused me though - did you mean it seriously or going along with the joke of my predicted failure for the exams lol?
haha i took it seriously because of jinny1's response.
I understand now lol, what are finding hard about bio?
Ahh just bio in general - never really liked it - and when i say that, i refer to the genetics section. Each time i somehow get the strength to study the section on genetics I get this feeling of... suicide - best way i could put it. Never done bio in high school so yeah fun times!
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Yea i'm a bit slow at getting jokes -.-
I was wondering why you were asking what people were doing for summer subjects on Bio exam thread lol...
now i get it!
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So... whose joining me for summer subjects? T_T
what summer subject are you doing seretide?
Ahh well.. if i actually were going to be doing summer subjects it would probably be biology. And i do hope it isn't , well, for any of my subjects actually!
And, Ummm.. your question confused me though - did you mean it seriously or going along with the joke of my predicted failure for the exams lol?
haha i took it seriously because of jinny1's response.
I understand now lol, what are finding hard about bio?
Ahh just bio in general - never really liked it - and when i say that, i refer to the genetics section. Each time i somehow get the strength to study the section on genetics I get this feeling of... suicide - best way i could put it. Never done bio in high school so yeah fun times!
Yeah it would probably be hard with terminology and just solving genetics problems.
Genetics is probably my favourite for the subject though..
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So... whose joining me for summer subjects? T_T
what summer subject are you doing seretide?
Ahh well.. if i actually were going to be doing summer subjects it would probably be biology. And i do hope it isn't , well, for any of my subjects actually!
And, Ummm.. your question confused me though - did you mean it seriously or going along with the joke of my predicted failure for the exams lol?
haha i took it seriously because of jinny1's response.
I understand now lol, what are finding hard about bio?
Ahh just bio in general - never really liked it - and when i say that, i refer to the genetics section. Each time i somehow get the strength to study the section on genetics I get this feeling of... suicide - best way i could put it. Never done bio in high school so yeah fun times!
Yeah it would probably be hard with terminology and just solving genetics problems.
Genetics is probably my favourite for the subject though..
You have just made an enemy >=[
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So... whose joining me for summer subjects? T_T
what summer subject are you doing seretide?
Ahh well.. if i actually were going to be doing summer subjects it would probably be biology. And i do hope it isn't , well, for any of my subjects actually!
And, Ummm.. your question confused me though - did you mean it seriously or going along with the joke of my predicted failure for the exams lol?
haha i took it seriously because of jinny1's response.
I understand now lol, what are finding hard about bio?
Ahh just bio in general - never really liked it - and when i say that, i refer to the genetics section. Each time i somehow get the strength to study the section on genetics I get this feeling of... suicide - best way i could put it. Never done bio in high school so yeah fun times!
Yeah it would probably be hard with terminology and just solving genetics problems.
Genetics is probably my favourite for the subject though..
You have just made an enemy >=[
haha :P
I really hate genetics!!! :( But i'm extremely fascinated by Evolution/Biodiversity.
At least in genetics there isn't a lot of terminology but there is so much for evolution -.-
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So... whose joining me for summer subjects? T_T
what summer subject are you doing seretide?
Ahh well.. if i actually were going to be doing summer subjects it would probably be biology. And i do hope it isn't , well, for any of my subjects actually!
And, Ummm.. your question confused me though - did you mean it seriously or going along with the joke of my predicted failure for the exams lol?
haha i took it seriously because of jinny1's response.
I understand now lol, what are finding hard about bio?
Ahh just bio in general - never really liked it - and when i say that, i refer to the genetics section. Each time i somehow get the strength to study the section on genetics I get this feeling of... suicide - best way i could put it. Never done bio in high school so yeah fun times!
Yeah it would probably be hard with terminology and just solving genetics problems.
Genetics is probably my favourite for the subject though..
You have just made an enemy >=[
loll, well what parts of genetics have you found hard: the problem solving (crosses, pedigrees) or just memorizing in general?
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High jacking this just for a second - is chemistry 2 tutorials compulsory? No one ever goes to them anymore...
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So... whose joining me for summer subjects? T_T
what summer subject are you doing seretide?
Ahh well.. if i actually were going to be doing summer subjects it would probably be biology. And i do hope it isn't , well, for any of my subjects actually!
And, Ummm.. your question confused me though - did you mean it seriously or going along with the joke of my predicted failure for the exams lol?
haha i took it seriously because of jinny1's response.
I understand now lol, what are finding hard about bio?
Ahh just bio in general - never really liked it - and when i say that, i refer to the genetics section. Each time i somehow get the strength to study the section on genetics I get this feeling of... suicide - best way i could put it. Never done bio in high school so yeah fun times!
Yeah it would probably be hard with terminology and just solving genetics problems.
Genetics is probably my favourite for the subject though..
You have just made an enemy >=[
haha :P
I really hate genetics!!! :( But i'm extremely fascinated by Evolution/Biodiversity.
At least in genetics there isn't a lot of terminology but there is so much for evolution -.-
yeah there's much more understanding in genetics, the other 95% if not all rote learning
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High jacking this just for a second - is chemistry 2 tutorials compulsory? No one ever goes to them anymore...
No. I heard that they can be used to check your attendance if you fail (get 49%) to giving you a pass.. but how can they possibly know you have attended a tutorial anyway? I switched tutes because I had a god awful tutor in thursday's tute class.
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High jacking this just for a second - is chemistry 2 tutorials compulsory? No one ever goes to them anymore...
No. I heard that they can be used to check your attendance if you fail (get 49%) to giving you a pass.. but how can they possibly know you have attended a tutorial anyway? I switched tutes because I had a god awful tutor in thursday's tute class.
Yeah true - and its funny that you said Thursdays class because I opted out of it as well! Was it like at 12 with the old guy? Lol
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High jacking this just for a second - is chemistry 2 tutorials compulsory? No one ever goes to them anymore...
No. I heard that they can be used to check your attendance if you fail (get 49%) to giving you a pass.. but how can they possibly know you have attended a tutorial anyway? I switched tutes because I had a god awful tutor in thursday's tute class.
Yeah true - and its funny that you said Thursdays class because I opted out of it as well! Was it like at 12 with the old guy? Lol
Yep!! The best part was when he was like, "please if you don't understand something don't be afraid to speak up"
and we're all like.. what's he talking about???
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High jacking this just for a second - is chemistry 2 tutorials compulsory? No one ever goes to them anymore...
No. I heard that they can be used to check your attendance if you fail (get 49%) to giving you a pass.. but how can they possibly know you have attended a tutorial anyway? I switched tutes because I had a god awful tutor in thursday's tute class.
Yeah true - and its funny that you said Thursdays class because I opted out of it as well! Was it like at 12 with the old guy? Lol
Yep!! The best part was when he was like, "please if you don't understand something don't be afraid to speak up"
and we're all like.. what's he talking about???
Lmao, I'm surprised that you managed to hear that! It was so hard trying to listen to what he was saying that I just left - moving on to bigger and better things :D
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population genetics is such a snorefest -.-
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population genetics is such a snorefest -.-
lol, i thought it was a little confusing to get my mind around but dawn is right, it's best to do the questions she sets us now so we can minus 4 lectures over what we have to study. I thought zoology was the worst
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population genetics is such a snorefest -.-
lol, i thought it was a little confusing to get my mind around but dawn is right, it's best to do the questions she sets us now so we can minus 4 lectures over what we have to study. I thought zoology was the worst
I just did the 3 questions for populations genetics from the lecture slides; it wasn't that bad actually, kind of makes sense to me now :P
I've done 6 lectures of revision!!! That's 6 more than last semester :P
Well i agree Zoology has a lot of terminology that is near impossible to learn. But i found zoology lectures to be the most entertaining! I just like learning about evolution and biodiversity for some reason ..
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population genetics is such a snorefest -.-
lol, i thought it was a little confusing to get my mind around but dawn is right, it's best to do the questions she sets us now so we can minus 4 lectures over what we have to study. I thought zoology was the worst
I just did the 3 questions for populations genetics from the lecture slides; it wasn't that bad actually, kind of makes sense to me now :P
I've done 6 lectures of revision!!! That's 6 more than last semester :P
Well i agree Zoology has a lot of terminology that is near impossible to learn. But i found zoology lectures to be the most entertaining! I just like learning about evolution and biodiversity for some reason ..
I didn't mind evolution, more so the things like the "molluscs" and "chordates" etc. etc.
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Oh yea the phylogeny/phylums are excruciating to learn.
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Oh yea the phylogeny/phylums are excruciating to learn.
Just remember that we don't need to know the phylogeny diagram though :)
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Oh yea the phylogeny/phylums are excruciating to learn.
Just remember that we don't need to know the phylogeny diagram though :)
We don't? Is this Rick's diagram or Theresa's?
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Oh yea the phylogeny/phylums are excruciating to learn.
Just remember that we don't need to know the phylogeny diagram though :)
We don't? Is this Rick's diagram or Theresa's?
pretty sure theresa told us that we wouldn't be tested on that, maybe check out the recordings to be sure
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Is there a quick/simple way of calculating ratios for dihybrid crosses??
Like this question:
In peanuts the phenotype may be either ‘bunch’ or ‘runner’. Two purebreeding bunch plants were crossed and the F1 were all ‘runner’. Allowing the F1 to interbreed produced an F2 with 173 ‘runner’ and 147 ‘bunch’. Propose a genetic hypothesis to explain the inheritance of this trait in peanuts.
All i know how to do is the percentage of each phenotype (173/320 and 147/320) but i don't know how to turn those into ratios :/
I'm guessing some mathematical manipulation is required but i'm terrible at maths.
The percentage is 55% and 45% so i'm guessing it is 9:7 ratio and that both recessive genotypes are epistatic.
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Is there a quick/simple way of calculating ratios for dihybrid crosses??
Like this question:
In peanuts the phenotype may be either ‘bunch’ or ‘runner’. Two purebreeding bunch plants were crossed and the F1 were all ‘runner’. Allowing the F1 to interbreed produced an F2 with 173 ‘runner’ and 147 ‘bunch’. Propose a genetic hypothesis to explain the inheritance of this trait in peanuts.
All i know how to do is the percentage of each phenotype (173/320 and 147/320) but i don't know how to turn those into ratios :/
I'm guessing some mathematical manipulation is required but i'm terrible at maths.
The percentage is 55% and 45% so i'm guessing it is 9:7 ratio and that both recessive genotypes are epistatic.
So (173/320) is 55%
so you're right just solve (x/16) = 0.55
and x= 8.8 so you can round up to 9 :D
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Is there a quick/simple way of calculating ratios for dihybrid crosses??
Like this question:
In peanuts the phenotype may be either ‘bunch’ or ‘runner’. Two purebreeding bunch plants were crossed and the F1 were all ‘runner’. Allowing the F1 to interbreed produced an F2 with 173 ‘runner’ and 147 ‘bunch’. Propose a genetic hypothesis to explain the inheritance of this trait in peanuts.
All i know how to do is the percentage of each phenotype (173/320 and 147/320) but i don't know how to turn those into ratios :/
I'm guessing some mathematical manipulation is required but i'm terrible at maths.
The percentage is 55% and 45% so i'm guessing it is 9:7 ratio and that both recessive genotypes are epistatic.
So (173/320) is 55%
so you're right just solve (x/16) = 0.55
and x= 8.8 so you can round up to 9 :D
Thank you!!
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Has anyone tried the practice exam? It's harder than last sems :(
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Has anyone tried the practice exam? It's harder than last sems :(
Not yet, two assignments due this week so no exam revision for me right now. Thanks for the heads up though.
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Has anyone tried the practice exam? It's harder than last sems :(
Not yet, two assignments due this week so no exam revision for me right now. Thanks for the heads up though.
How's the NE assignment? Ah it's so hard balancing exam study and assignments. I think i'm going to try finish my assignment tonight so i'll be free to study the next two days.
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Has anyone tried the practice exam? It's harder than last sems :(
Not yet, two assignments due this week so no exam revision for me right now. Thanks for the heads up though.
How's the NE assignment? Ah it's so hard balancing exam study and assignments. I think i'm going to try finish my assignment tonight so i'll be free to study the next two days.
Harder than the last one. Especially with referring to previous studies when a lot of what we have are other stories that don't relate to the one I'm talking about :/ You?
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Has anyone tried the practice exam? It's harder than last sems :(
Not yet, two assignments due this week so no exam revision for me right now. Thanks for the heads up though.
How's the NE assignment? Ah it's so hard balancing exam study and assignments. I think i'm going to try finish my assignment tonight so i'll be free to study the next two days.
Harder than the last one. Especially with referring to previous studies when a lot of what we have are other stories that don't relate to the one I'm talking about :/ You?
pretty much in the same situation :(
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Somebody please help me with this question :P
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Somebody please help me with this question :P
Well it rules out C because it's quantitative (i.e. not multifactorial, those are things like spina bifida etc. where it's present or not)
Use Height 188-190 (or 143-145)
I'll just use height 188-190 since it's the base height
so (1/1031)= (1/4)^5 (they are approximately equal)
so there are five polygenes (rules out a) meaning they have the alleles:
AABBCCDDEE (rules out b)
To get D:
Find the range= 188 (max height in offspring) - 145 (base height) = 43 cm
10 contributing alleles (AABBCCDDEE) = 43/10 = 4.3cm = close enough to the answer :D
Also: Try see if you can do the problem at the end of the polygenic inheritance lecture, it's the same method
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Somebody please help me with this question :P
Well it rules out C because it's quantitative (i.e. not multifactorial, those are things like spina bifida etc. where it's present or not)
Use Height 188-190 (or 143-145)
I'll just use height 188-190 since it's the base height
so (1/1031)= (1/4)^5 (they are approximately equal)
so there are five polygenes (rules out a) meaning they have the alleles:
AABBCCDDEE (rules out b)
To get D:
Find the range= 188 (max height in offspring) - 145 (base height) = 43 cm
10 contributing alleles (AABBCCDDEE) = 43/10 = 4.3cm = close enough to the answer :D
Also: Try see if you can do the problem at the end of the polygenic inheritance lecture, it's the same method
Thanks El but i dont get why you used 1/1031 over any other trait?? That (1/4)^n rule is for finding out how many offpsring are related to the parent. But the question says nothing about that. How do you know it was 1/1031??
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Somebody please help me with this question :P
Well it rules out C because it's quantitative (i.e. not multifactorial, those are things like spina bifida etc. where it's present or not)
Use Height 188-190 (or 143-145)
I'll just use height 188-190 since it's the base height
so (1/1031)= (1/4)^5 (they are approximately equal)
so there are five polygenes (rules out a) meaning they have the alleles:
AABBCCDDEE (rules out b)
To get D:
Find the range= 188 (max height in offspring) - 145 (base height) = 43 cm
10 contributing alleles (AABBCCDDEE) = 43/10 = 4.3cm = close enough to the answer :D
Also: Try see if you can do the problem at the end of the polygenic inheritance lecture, it's the same method
Thanks El but i dont get why you used 1/1031 over any other trait?? That (1/4)^n rule is for finding out how many offpsring are related to the parent. But the question says nothing about that. How do you know it was 1/1031??
I used the (1/4)^n rule so i could determine the amount of polygenes, given by n. This has to be done to determine the number of contributing alleles (i.e. to rule out b)
I guess when I looked at when it said 1031 offspring, I was like oh hey that's close to 4^5. So i could say (1/1031) = (1/4)^5
Oh and also, none of the other numbers simplify, so they weren't something like (2/32 offspring so I could say 1/16 = (1/4)^2)
Does this sort of makes sense?
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yea thanks! I'd say you are set for a H1 :)
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yea thanks! I'd say you are set for a H1 :)
Lol.. I just remembered it from the MST :)
Unfortunately the exam paper contains plant/ zoology stuff :(
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yea thanks! I'd say you are set for a H1 :)
Lol.. I just remembered it from the MST :)
Unfortunately the exam paper contains plant/ zoology stuff :(
for me Genetics is pretty straight forward; i just need to get my 3 point test crosses right.
yea Plant/Zoology is going to be a pain to memorise :(
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yea thanks! I'd say you are set for a H1 :)
Lol.. I just remembered it from the MST :)
Unfortunately the exam paper contains plant/ zoology stuff :(
for me Genetics is pretty straight forward; i just need to get my 3 point test crosses right.
yea Plant/Zoology is going to be a pain to memorise :(
I studied the plant section, thought it was all good. Then did the prac exam and got like 50% on that seciton, i'll probably have to memorise that section of the exam.
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Is it just me or is Chemistry fucking impossible?
I thought I understood most of it in the lectures, but apparently I was vacant for a semester.
Just did my first trial exam and scraped 57% on the multi choice wouldn't have done much better on the SA.
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Is it just me or is Chemistry fucking impossible?
I thought I understood most of it in the lectures, but apparently I was vacant for a semester.
Just did my first trial exam and scraped 57% on the multi choice wouldn't have done much better on the SA.
Don't worry I went through that stage too. And TBH I think most chem students are on the same page.
To me, the lectures were inadequate and I strongly encourage you to check the textbook for most of what they were discussing (it goes through things like nomenclature of coordination compounds, steady state approximation etc. pretty well).
What part are you finding the hardest?
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Chemistry is seriously the worse run subject i've experienced. The lectures are terribly centred around on useless rote-learning; Practicals are always rushed and poorly organised to fit within the 3 hour time frame.
Even to the very last lecture it was full on you got to memorise this; memorise that without even talking about the exam. My other subjects mostly talked about the exam and/or gave an overview of the entire content learnt over the semester but not Chemistry...
Putting me off Chemistry so bad..
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Chemistry is seriously the worse run subject i've experienced. The lectures are terribly centred around on useless rote-learning; Practicals are always rushed and poorly organised to fit within the 3 hour time frame.
Even to the very last lecture it was full on you got to memorise this; memorise that without even talking about the exam. My other subjects mostly talked about the exam and/or gave an overview of the entire content learnt over the semester but not Chemistry...
Putting me off Chemistry so bad..
Haha from what i've heard, chemistry is much worse.
Chemistry fundamentals was soooo much better ran, they actually gave you explanations in lectures of how to solve problems and everything and the lecturers were way better.
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El have you revised lecture 16 yet???
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El have you revised lecture 16 yet???
I love your DP! It's sooo good :P
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El have you revised lecture 16 yet???
I love your DP! It's sooo good :P
lol thank you :P
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El have you revised lecture 16 yet???
Ah not yet :S . That one has heaps of content :S
I think I have 11 lectures to go..
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El have you revised lecture 16 yet???
I love your DP! It's sooo good :P
lol thank you :P
I can stare at that all day! <3 Scarlett!
El have you revised lecture 16 yet???
Ah not yet :S . That one has heaps of content :S
I think I have 11 lectures to go..
Are you rewatching the lectures to revise? Or just going through the content and writing summaries or something? I don't do the unit but just trying to get an idea of what others are doing to revise! :P
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Do any past students have any past trial exams for other years for BIOL10005???
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@ swarley. I'm just writing my summaries (sometimes they are really just identical to the lecture notes) and memorizing them. Gets pretty boring but it has to be done.
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@ swarley. I'm just writing my summaries (sometimes they are really just identical to the lecture notes) and memorizing them. Gets pretty boring but it has to be done.
Yeah that's the same as what I'm doing atm! Except I'm typing it out cos there is just too much to write, it'll be quicker and neater too :P If I have time I might try writing out a summary of that summary so just list the key ideas and terms associated with it and draw some tables/graphs or whatnot. I just want to get this study notes process over with, it's the woooorst haha at least when you're doing the questions actively you're both reviewing and applying the knowledge, whereas summarizing is boringly painful! :P
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IMHO the second half of kinetics (mechanisms, steady state) etc is an absolute mindfuck. I'm not maths-inclined, so when I'm seeing equations like that.
Bah.
Also, I dislike quantum because the way it was taught does not correspond to what we are assessed on.
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^ Kinetics.. ok for me.
Organic chemistry, not liking how they are incorporating aspects of chemistry 1 when they weren't even taught in this subject.
And agreed with quantum.
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^ Kinetics.. ok for me.
Organic chemistry, not liking how they are incorporating aspects of chemistry 1 when they weren't even taught in this subject.
And agreed with quantum.
What are you (and anyone else) doing for chem? There are a lot of reactions and rules to remember (mainly for organic/incorganic) yet it is important to apply them with the questions too - hard to find a balance.
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^ Kinetics.. ok for me.
Organic chemistry, not liking how they are incorporating aspects of chemistry 1 when they weren't even taught in this subject.
And agreed with quantum.
What are you (and anyone else) doing for chem? There are a lot of reactions and rules to remember (mainly for organic/incorganic) yet it is important to apply them with the questions too - hard to find a balance.
Well from past exam papers, I think i have come to the conclusion that i'm not going to really look at batteries (they don't seem to come up much, and if they do they are only 1 mark or so so i'm willing to give that up)
I'm ok with organic
I guess I have to memorise the mond process, kroll process, the diagrams of haemoglobin/ enterobactin etc.
But yeah I know what you mean, you don't know whether to memorize or work on applying knowledge..
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So are you guys memorising the names of classes/sub-phylums for each of the 7 phylum??
Impossiblleeeee
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So are you guys memorising the names of classes/sub-phylums for each of the 7 phylum??
Impossiblleeeee
Pretty much, it's best to balance them with lectures that don't have much memorizing though.
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I just did it today. I have so many fantastic, dirty analogies that aren't appropriate to post up.
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Animal section is driving me nut; stuff it i'm just gonna wing that section like a bosss.
I have terrible memory, so no way i would be able to memorise 30 random classes and each of their attributes.
How many hours a day you spending on revision El?
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SHOULD'VE GONE TO PHYSICS LECTURES.
AND TUTES.
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Animal section is driving me nut; stuff it i'm just gonna wing that section like a bosss.
I have terrible memory, so no way i would be able to memorise 30 random classes and each of their attributes.
How many hours a day you spending on revision El?
Maybe 2 hrs bio max. I have to balance all my other 4 subjects too. So far been at library from 10am-4pm just memorzing, then doing my chem prac exams/ questions, bio questions in the night. I think it's important to keep up with genetics problems.
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Animal section is driving me nut; stuff it i'm just gonna wing that section like a bosss.
I have terrible memory, so no way i would be able to memorise 30 random classes and each of their attributes.
How many hours a day you spending on revision El?
Maybe 2 hrs bio max. I have to balance all my other 4 subjects too. So far been at library from 10am-4pm just memorzing, then doing my chem prac exams/ questions, bio questions in the night. I think it's important to keep up with genetics problems.
I was at uni about the same time (but also going to help sessions) - proud of my efforts tbh haha. I still have memorised all of the plant/animal stuff for bio. Would you suggest making mind maps/summaries or just writing it out/saying it over and over again. I hate rote learning :(
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Animal section is driving me nut; stuff it i'm just gonna wing that section like a bosss.
I have terrible memory, so no way i would be able to memorise 30 random classes and each of their attributes.
How many hours a day you spending on revision El?
Maybe 2 hrs bio max. I have to balance all my other 4 subjects too. So far been at library from 10am-4pm just memorzing, then doing my chem prac exams/ questions, bio questions in the night. I think it's important to keep up with genetics problems.
I was at uni about the same time (but also going to help sessions) - proud of my efforts tbh haha. I still have memorised all of the plant/animal stuff for bio. Would you suggest making mind maps/summaries or just writing it out/saying it over and over again. I hate rote learning :(
Depends what works best for you. I know rote learning is boring, but is it effective? If it is i'd go with that. Otherwise rewriting, listening to lectures might help out.
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Predictions for section D questions anyone?
I was thinking about these ones for zoology:
1) Why arthropods are successful
2) Evolution of vertebrates
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Predictions for section D questions anyone?
I was thinking about these ones for zoology:
1) Why arthropods are successful
2) Evolution of vertebrates
I wanted to ask you that as well since you got it spot on last semester :P
Is there any other reasons than chitonous Exo-skeleton for the success of arthropods??
I mean there are diversification of appendages and segmentation but i don't see how diversity in it of itself can contribute to success?? Like Arthropods have varying number of legs but how does that help with success?
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Predictions for section D questions anyone?
I was thinking about these ones for zoology:
1) Why arthropods are successful
2) Evolution of vertebrates
I wanted to ask you that as well since you got it spot on last semester :P
Is there any other reasons than chitonous Exo-skeleton for the success of arthropods??
I mean there are diversification of appendages and segmentation but i don't see how diversity in it of itself can contribute to success?? Like Arthropods have varying number of legs but how does that help with success?
Lol it was my tutor last sem who inadvertently told us haha.
Good question. Well I suppose you could talk about the sensory structures, nervous system and that some have flight also.
Also perhaps for the plant section:
• What are the evolutionary steps that led to the development of land plants and most recently angiosperms? (Maybe the adaptations that were required for land plants to evolve?)
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Predictions for section D questions anyone?
I was thinking about these ones for zoology:
1) Why arthropods are successful
2) Evolution of vertebrates
I wanted to ask you that as well since you got it spot on last semester :P
Is there any other reasons than chitonous Exo-skeleton for the success of arthropods??
I mean there are diversification of appendages and segmentation but i don't see how diversity in it of itself can contribute to success?? Like Arthropods have varying number of legs but how does that help with success?
Lol it was my tutor last sem who inadvertently told us haha.
Good question. Well I suppose you could talk about the sensory structures, nervous system and that some have flight also.
Also perhaps for the plant section:
• What are the evolutionary steps that led to the development of land plants and most recently angiosperms? (Maybe the adaptations that were required for land plants to evolve?)
Damn i forgot about the wings, sensory structures etc :( so depressed now :/
I have a feeling something about angiosperms will be on section D.....
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I really hope angiosperms are on section D.
That, or general differences in protista.
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If a gene locus has 4 alleles the number of different genotypes possible at the locus is ??
That is Question 30 on sample exam. I got 6 but the answer is 10. How would you work it out?
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If a gene locus has 4 alleles the number of different genotypes possible at the locus is ??
That is Question 30 on sample exam. I got 6 but the answer is 10. How would you work it out?
Someone asked that question on the discussion board :)
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If a gene locus has 4 alleles the number of different genotypes possible at the locus is ??
That is Question 30 on sample exam. I got 6 but the answer is 10. How would you work it out?
Someone asked that question on the discussion board :)
Oh i forgot about the discussion board..Will have a look
EDIT: Where is the question?? i can't find it :(
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^ Yeah I was like what he shit, too...
Can someone link me to it when it's discovered?
Also, I think I actually have a shot at passing chemistry this semester. I heard from two completely unrelated friends that 65% of students fail the exam (the exam, not the subject). Is there any way I can check this?
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If you go to page 5 on the discussion board, someone's posted it under "practice exam"
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If a gene locus has 4 alleles the number of different genotypes possible at the locus is ??
That is Question 30 on sample exam. I got 6 but the answer is 10. How would you work it out?
Someone asked that question on the discussion board :)
The answer to that is 10.
Redo the question, you might see that you forgot something that is relatively easy to miss.
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Alleles a, b, c ,d:
aa bb cc dd
ab bc cd
ac bd
ad
4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 10.
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Alleles a, b, c ,d:
aa bb cc dd
ab bc cd
ac bd
ad
4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 10.
Thanks i get it now.. It's kind of a stupid/pointless questions -.-
Anyway i hope Section D for biodiversity will be about Allee effect etc things that didn't have to be rote learnt.
If it is on regurgitating class/phyla names then i am done for...
Knowing how many pairs of legs and antennae there are across different classes of arthropods doesn't teach you shit! Might as well rename the exam a "memory test" lol
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I have left myself to memorize 3 lectures tomorrow... damn you chemistry
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I have left myself to memorize 3 lectures tomorrow... damn you chemistry
I feel your pain.
*hugs*
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I have left myself to memorize 3 lectures tomorrow... damn you chemistry
I feel your pain.
*hugs*
+ I need to look over plants/ protists again to refresh my memory (esp. for section D), and do some genetics problems too ahh.
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How's everyone feeling for tomorrow? Literally just crammed 3 lectures... not sure how much i'll remember of it :D
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I'm just finishing off the sample exam :/
Reading A Game of Thrones kept me from studying until now lol :(
good luck everyone!
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Dude I haven't revised 1-16 or done anything past animal biology properly, and I haven't gone to Physics all semester.
I'm thinking I'm pretty fucked on anything except protists.
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So how did everybody go??
Or are you guys still doing the exam :P
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So how did everybody go??
Or are you guys still doing the exam :P
Lol I would have been finishing the exam.
I thought i didn't do so well, you?
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So how did everybody go??
Or are you guys still doing the exam :P
Lol I would have been finishing the exam.
I thought i didn't do so well, you?
It found it easier than i had anticipated...Easier than last semester.
Section A was pretty straight forward apart from some of the genetic questions...I was relieved when we were told to cross out one of the genetic question on the exam and it was a really hard one!
Secontion B/C: The genetics component were the easiest this time. Struggled big time with naming the anatomy of the squid :( And there was a question with pictures of fossils and we had to name them. A bit harsh since i'm pretty sure picture in her slides are not on the lms lecture slides..But i knew most of the fossil except the one where you don't know which side is up or down.. I put down some name related to hallucination..Don't know if that is right though.
Section D: pretty straight forward, the selection question caught me off guard a bit but at least it wasn't asking about specific class differences.
LOL i think you wasted a bit of time memorising all of the different class names!! So relieved hardly any questions required you to know much about classes.
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Man the fossils! I only knew one.. archaeopteryx.
Pretty much forgot about x inactivation, the angiosperms question was expected (but my fourth reaason was pretty crap), made up complete bs about the selection questions. Yeah I probably did waste a little bit of time, but I guess its bonus marks.
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Did everyone pick up the error in Section B Q 4 with the 3 point test cross?
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What was the error?
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The heterozygote in the test cross was written as (_,_,orange) when in fact it should have been (_,_,red) because looking at the offspring, none of the 2 phenotypes with 400+ had the phenotype (_,_,orange) but one did with (_,_,red). I couldn't believe they could make such an error. And I don't think everyone was told either as no announcement was made.
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Why didn't we have to do question 34 in the multiple choice :S
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No idea. Just be happy we didn't have to do an extra question :)
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It said that a brown male mated with a red male or something like that. Obviously two males can't mate and produce offspring and you needed to know the phenotype of each gender as it was a sex linkage question I think.
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The heterozygote in the test cross was written as (_,_,orange) when in fact it should have been (_,_,red) because looking at the offspring, none of the 2 phenotypes with 400+ had the phenotype (_,_,orange) but one did with (_,_,red). I couldn't believe they could make such an error. And I don't think everyone was told either as no announcement was made.
I was screwed over by this question as well and none of my friends seemed to notice the error. I think people just assumed it said red because it said that it was heterozygous. So I wasted minutes banging my head thinking *How the hell can the recessive gene be shown if it is heterozygous!!!*
Poor work by the people at biology, I didn't read question 34 but I'm guessing that was a screw up as well.
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It said that a brown male mated with a red male or something like that. Obviously two males can't mate and produce offspring and you needed to know the phenotype of each gender as it was a sex linkage question I think.
Different question. This was the linkage one where you had 3 different genes, one was for colour, and it was simply either red or orange. No epistasis/codominance, etc.
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There was also a stuff up for chem too. I wonder if this is going to be the case for all exams.
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It said that a brown male mated with a red male or something like that. Obviously two males can't mate and produce offspring and you needed to know the phenotype of each gender as it was a sex linkage question I think.
Different question. This was the linkage one where you had 3 different genes, one was for colour, and it was simply either red or orange. No epistasis/codominance, etc.
Was replying to el's question about 34a. Should have quoted
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There was also a stuff up for chem too. I wonder if this is going to be the case for all exams.
There were? Do you remember which ones? Didn't even notice them... Whoops
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Didn't notice any chem stuff ups, although I did find it annoying that we pretty much had to guess whether Ni2+ was tetrahedral or octahedral in a coordination compound with water, as I don't think people could actually know such a thing beforehand. I guessed tetrahedral because it was 2+ and it seemed more likely, but when I googled it after, I saw it was octahedral. Looks like I'm having no luck with these exams haha
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Didn't notice any chem stuff ups, although I did find it annoying that we pretty much had to guess whether Ni2+ was tetrahedral or octahedral in a coordination compound with water, as I don't think people could actually know such a thing beforehand. I guessed tetrahedral because it was 2+ and it seemed more likely, but when I googled it after, I saw it was octahedral. Looks like I'm having no luck with these exams haha
I said octahedral. But I stuffed it up because I wrote all the ligands were OH! And I didn't write the coordination number fml.
There was also a stuff up for chem too. I wonder if this is going to be the case for all exams.
There were? Do you remember which ones? Didn't even notice them... Whoops
Pretty sure the multiple choice. I heard someone ask the examiner about it behind me. The question was like "what is the oxidation number of the cobalt atom" in some coordination compound. Except the metal centre was chromium and the counter ligand was carbon monoxide (CO) so it was all confusing.
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Oh right the Cobalt-Chromium thing. I remember that. Idiots. You would think they'd re-read the exam before they handed it out to about 1000 students.
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Didn't notice any chem stuff ups, although I did find it annoying that we pretty much had to guess whether Ni2+ was tetrahedral or octahedral in a coordination compound with water, as I don't think people could actually know such a thing beforehand. I guessed tetrahedral because it was 2+ and it seemed more likely, but when I googled it after, I saw it was octahedral. Looks like I'm having no luck with these exams haha
I said octahedral. But I stuffed it up because I wrote all the ligands were OH! And I didn't write the coordination number fml.
There was also a stuff up for chem too. I wonder if this is going to be the case for all exams.
There were? Do you remember which ones? Didn't even notice them... Whoops
Pretty sure the multiple choice. I heard someone ask the examiner about it behind me. The question was like "what is the oxidation number of the cobalt atom" in some coordination compound. Except the metal centre was chromium and the counter ligand was carbon monoxide (CO) so it was all confusing.
When I read that question I almost shit myself - I was looking at it like, did I miss something? Since when...ahh.. oh someone help me..
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There was another error on the Biology exam. The twins were II5 and II6, not II6 and II7.
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There was another error on the Biology exam. The twins were II5 and II6, not II6 and II7.
Please don't tell me that was the correct answer...
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There was another error on the Biology exam. The twins were II5 and II6, not II6 and II7.
Please don't tell me that was the correct answer...
Yea there were no twins II6/7 so i was confused....
But if the exam meant II5/6 then it would have been right since they were monozygous....i think
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Man the fossils! I only knew one.. archaeopteryx.
Pretty much forgot about x inactivation, the angiosperms question was expected (but my fourth reaason was pretty crap), made up complete bs about the selection questions. Yeah I probably did waste a little bit of time, but I guess its bonus marks.
I got lucky with the fossils.. I knew about Acanthostega because of one of the questions the same exam asked what was unusual about the first tetrapods (8 digits). I knee of them were ammonites or trilobites; then i remembered trilobites were arthropods from the exam exam so i picked the insect looking thing as trilobite and the snail looking thing as ammonite. the bird one was pretty obvious.
I guess section D depends sort of on luck and how much you know about the topic. IF i have gotten a question about distinction between sub-classes and a question about DNA manipulation (methylation/acetylation) then i probably would've failed lol.
EDIT:
Just got an email from Dawn saying
Dear Students,
Unfortunately there were two questions on the exam today in which there were
errors.
Please be reassured that the questions affected by these errors will not be
included in the assessment.
Regards, Dawn
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Man the fossils! I only knew one.. archaeopteryx.
Pretty much forgot about x inactivation, the angiosperms question was expected (but my fourth reaason was pretty crap), made up complete bs about the selection questions. Yeah I probably did waste a little bit of time, but I guess its bonus marks.
I got lucky with the fossils.. I knew about Acanthostega because of one of the questions the same exam asked what was unusual about the first tetrapods (8 digits). I knee of them were ammonites or trilobites; then i remembered trilobites were arthropods from the exam exam so i picked the insect looking thing as trilobite and the snail looking thing as ammonite. the bird one was pretty obvious.
I guess section D depends sort of on luck and how much you know about the topic. IF i have gotten a question about distinction between sub-classes and a question about DNA manipulation (methylation/acetylation) then i probably would've failed lol.
EDIT:
Just got an email from Dawn saying
Dear Students,
Unfortunately there were two questions on the exam today in which there were
errors.
Please be reassured that the questions affected by these errors will not be
included in the assessment.
Regards, Dawn
Sorry to crush your confidence, but Ammonite was the Omastar looking thing and the Trilobite was the Kabuto type thing. They were both on there.
I happened to know all 5 fossils from completely distinct, random, separate phenomena. I remember looking through the lecture notes thinking "I really want to know what a hallucigenia looks like[/b], so I looked it up.
The others, I dunno. I just knew them lol.
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Did everyone pick up the error in Section B Q 4 with the 3 point test cross?
The heterozygote in the test cross was written as (_,_,orange) when in fact it should have been (_,_,red) because looking at the offspring, none of the 2 phenotypes with 400+ had the phenotype (_,_,orange) but one did with (_,_,red). I couldn't believe they could make such an error. And I don't think everyone was told either as no announcement was made.
For our one there was an error with a 3 point test cross question, but they gave marks because there was an error (in one word in the question) lol. They sent us the email (but I do BIOL10002).
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Man the fossils! I only knew one.. archaeopteryx.
Pretty much forgot about x inactivation, the angiosperms question was expected (but my fourth reaason was pretty crap), made up complete bs about the selection questions. Yeah I probably did waste a little bit of time, but I guess its bonus marks.
I got lucky with the fossils.. I knew about Acanthostega because of one of the questions the same exam asked what was unusual about the first tetrapods (8 digits). I knee of them were ammonites or trilobites; then i remembered trilobites were arthropods from the exam exam so i picked the insect looking thing as trilobite and the snail looking thing as ammonite. the bird one was pretty obvious.
I guess section D depends sort of on luck and how much you know about the topic. IF i have gotten a question about distinction between sub-classes and a question about DNA manipulation (methylation/acetylation) then i probably would've failed lol.
EDIT:
Just got an email from Dawn saying
Dear Students,
Unfortunately there were two questions on the exam today in which there were
errors.
Please be reassured that the questions affected by these errors will not be
included in the assessment.
Regards, Dawn
Sorry to crush your confidence, but Ammonite was the Omastar looking thing and the Trilobite was the Kabuto type thing. They were both on there.
I happened to know all 5 fossils from completely distinct, random, separate phenomena. I remember looking through the lecture notes thinking "I really want to know what a hallucigenia looks like[/b], so I looked it up.
The others, I dunno. I just knew them lol.
What do you mean?
I got them right... Trilobite,ammonite and hallucigenia.
Trilobite = insect looking one
ammonite = the large snail
Hallucigena= spiky worm on both sides
Edit: maybe poor wording on my previous post i think..i didin't proof read it lol
The acanostega was the 8 fingered tetrapod i think and the bird was the archerotexy or some name like that...
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How did you guys know the diagrams? I don't even remember what lecture they were in, I remember the archaeopteryx one though
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How did you guys know the diagrams? I don't even remember what lecture they were in, I remember the archaeopteryx one though
The sample exam had questions about which species died during the two extinction periods so i had to learn about Trilobites (Cretaceous-Tertiary) and Ammonites (Permian-Triassic).
The Hallucigenia i vaguely remember the lecturer talking about how they named it so when they thought they were hallucinating lol.
And the 8 digit tetrapod was in one of the sample exam question so i knew what it looked like...
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Man the fossils! I only knew one.. archaeopteryx.
Pretty much forgot about x inactivation, the angiosperms question was expected (but my fourth reaason was pretty crap), made up complete bs about the selection questions. Yeah I probably did waste a little bit of time, but I guess its bonus marks.
I got lucky with the fossils.. I knew about Acanthostega because of one of the questions the same exam asked what was unusual about the first tetrapods (8 digits). I knee of them were ammonites or trilobites; then i remembered trilobites were arthropods from the exam exam so i picked the insect looking thing as trilobite and the snail looking thing as ammonite. the bird one was pretty obvious.
I guess section D depends sort of on luck and how much you know about the topic. IF i have gotten a question about distinction between sub-classes and a question about DNA manipulation (methylation/acetylation) then i probably would've failed lol.
EDIT:
Just got an email from Dawn saying
Dear Students,
Unfortunately there were two questions on the exam today in which there were
errors.
Please be reassured that the questions affected by these errors will not be
included in the assessment.
Regards, Dawn
Sorry to crush your confidence, but Ammonite was the Omastar looking thing and the Trilobite was the Kabuto type thing. They were both on there.
I happened to know all 5 fossils from completely distinct, random, separate phenomena. I remember looking through the lecture notes thinking "I really want to know what a hallucigenia looks like[/b], so I looked it up.
The others, I dunno. I just knew them lol.
What do you mean?
I got them right... Trilobite,ammonite and hallucigenia.
Trilobite = insect looking one
ammonite = the large snail
Hallucigena= spiky worm on both sides
Edit: maybe poor wording on my previous post i think..i didin't proof read it lol
The acanostega was the 8 fingered tetrapod i think and the bird was the archerotexy or some name like that...
How did I misinterpret your original post so badly? What the...?
LOL.
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How did you guys know the diagrams? I don't even remember what lecture they were in, I remember the archaeopteryx one though
The sample exam had questions about which species died during the two extinction periods so i had to learn about Trilobites (Cretaceous-Tertiary) and Ammonites (Permian-Triassic).
The Hallucigenia i vaguely remember the lecturer talking about how they named it so when they thought they were hallucinating lol.
And the 8 digit tetrapod was in one of the sample exam question so i knew what it looked like...
Man that's what 4 exams in a week does to you. No time to finish the sample exams or anything :(
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How did you guys know the diagrams? I don't even remember what lecture they were in, I remember the archaeopteryx one though
The sample exam had questions about which species died during the two extinction periods so i had to learn about Trilobites (Cretaceous-Tertiary) and Ammonites (Permian-Triassic).
The Hallucigenia i vaguely remember the lecturer talking about how they named it so when they thought they were hallucinating lol.
And the 8 digit tetrapod was in one of the sample exam question so i knew what it looked like...
Man that's what 4 exams in a week does to you. No time to finish the sample exams or anything :(
yea your exam schedule is so jam packed...
Lucky mine are spread out so i only had two concentrate on 2 exams for the past week.
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How did you guys know the diagrams? I don't even remember what lecture they were in, I remember the archaeopteryx one though
The sample exam had questions about which species died during the two extinction periods so i had to learn about Trilobites (Cretaceous-Tertiary) and Ammonites (Permian-Triassic).
The Hallucigenia i vaguely remember the lecturer talking about how they named it so when they thought they were hallucinating lol.
And the 8 digit tetrapod was in one of the sample exam question so i knew what it looked like...
Man that's what 4 exams in a week does to you. No time to finish the sample exams or anything :(
yea your exam schedule is so jam packed...
Lucky mine are spread out so i only had two concentrate on 2 exams for the past week.
Sigh. That was me last semester. Except my exam timetable was even better... a 10 day gap between exam 1 and exam 2.