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Archived Discussion => English Studies => 2012 => End-of-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => English => Topic started by: VivaTequila on November 01, 2012, 10:58:59 am
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So guys, how did you all go!?
In continuing tradition from last year, post all of the funny stuff that happened in your exam, just like we did when we graduated in 2011.
And you never, ever have to study English again. Hoorah! Maybe.
I HOPE YOU GUYS DID AWESOME
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Funny moments from last year for those who cant be bothered reading the thread ;)
YES
at the end of the exam, our supervisor accidently said 'please put your multiple choice answer...'
Almost had a heart attack. Thank god she corrected herself. :P
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IT'S ALL OVER!!! Hope you all did well!
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BRACE YOURSELVES, the onslaught of posts are coming!
edit:
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^ Should've made a meme out of that. Hahaha
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The piss after busting to go to the toilet during the exam was so relieving.
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^ you heard it here first
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For the first time in English, not only have I not been able to finish one essay, I didn't finish two essays, can't explain my disappointment, but all hope is not lost, one bad exam won't kill me.
Don't know what happened, I was never in my 'zone', everything bothered me and I just couldn't get my writing to just flow.
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Are all the exams from one school marked by the same assessor or are they scattered arbirtraily? I lent my friend a sample essay to read over a few weeks ago and it seems as though he has memorised it and written the same one as I did for the exam.... Any chance of both of ours being read by the same assessors? :-\
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Randomly assigned, odds of anything happening even if the same examiner reads both are quite low. Tell your friend he's a dick and don't worry about it
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Finished it. Loved the Cosi prompt but my writing may have let me down. Loved context. L.A was good but my analysis was weak. Oh well. It's over!!
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WOO NO MORE ENGLISH \o/
It went pretty damn well, I thought. How I actually went, well we'll see, but I'm fairly pleased with how I went.
The topics and prompts were pretty good too. I liked the Encountering Conflict prompt and the prompts for Things We Didn't See Coming (decided to write on the first one).
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Randomly assigned, odds of anything happening even if the same examiner reads both are quite low. Tell your friend he's a dick and don't worry about it
Thank you. I was pretty happy after my exam with how I went but after hearing that my friend copied my essay... I'm pretty worried now. :(
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The feeling you get when you come out of that exam room knowing that you no longer have to do English ever again is absolutely amazing.
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Randomly assigned, odds of anything happening even if the same examiner reads both are quite low. Tell your friend he's a dick and don't worry about it
Thank you. I was pretty happy after my exam with how I went but after hearing that my friend copied my essay... I'm pretty worried now. :(
My english tutor (who was from xavier) gave my essay to the whole school last year.. And it was for context so easily copied and memorised.
Still got a decent score, so don't worry. Funny if you guys were actually using my essay :P
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That feeling when you done 1 essay and sensing UG grade on your English exam yay
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I think I went fairly decently, but only time will tell.
TR topics for 'On The Waterfront' were fairly good. Context for Encountering Conflict was amazing and LA was simple, easy to analyse although I wish there were better techniques in there, however I did end up saying 'anecdotal juxtaposition' for lols.
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I think I went fairly decently, but only time will tell.
TR topics for 'On The Waterfront' were fairly good. Context for Encountering Conflict was amazing and LA was simple, easy to analyse although I wish there were better techniques in there, however I did end up saying 'anecdotal juxtaposition' for lols.
What were they for OTWF?
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No funny exam moments this year? LOL
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I think I went fairly decently, but only time will tell.
TR topics for 'On The Waterfront' were fairly good. Context for Encountering Conflict was amazing and LA was simple, easy to analyse although I wish there were better techniques in there, however I did end up saying 'anecdotal juxtaposition' for lols.
What were they for OTWF?
i) How does Kazan create tension and suspense in On The Waterfront?
ii)'It is not only through physical violence that the mob maintains its power.' Do you agree?
I really didn't like the first question, I thought it was too film based to show my understanding of the concepts. I went with the second question, so I could explore all areas of conscience, isolation, overpowering authoritarians, falsified loyalty, collective action etc.
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I'll go scan in the exam question booklet then. It'll have the prompt I wrote on circled and a few lines here and there on the language analysis though (I don't highlight, annotate that much though, so it's still fairly clean).
I'll do a fairly rough scan though, scanner is pretty slow with high quality scans
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I'll go scan in the exam question booklet then. It'll have the prompt I wrote on circled and a few lines here and there on the language analysis though (I don't highlight, annotate that much though, so it's still fairly clean).
I'll do a fairly rough scan though, scanner is pretty slow with high quality scans
Not good enough. Photo-shop your circle out.
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Happy with the exam, reluctant fundamentalist topics were good, my context for identity and belonging a bit wishy washy haha, and i think i did ok on la. :) overall really pleased, fingers crossed! :)
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I'll go scan in the exam question booklet then. It'll have the prompt I wrote on circled and a few lines here and there on the language analysis though (I don't highlight, annotate that much though, so it's still fairly clean).
I'll do a fairly rough scan though, scanner is pretty slow with high quality scans
Not good enough. Photo-shop your circle out.
be grateful someone is providing a copy of the exam
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Can't believe, I didn't finish section A (the highest marked!) :'( What's went wrong with all my study :'(
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Can't believe, I didn't finish section A (the highest marked!) :'( What's went wrong with all my study :'(
I haven't finished section C. Was writing and they said pen down, my life ended
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I'll go scan in the exam question booklet then. It'll have the prompt I wrote on circled and a few lines here and there on the language analysis though (I don't highlight, annotate that much though, so it's still fairly clean).
I'll do a fairly rough scan though, scanner is pretty slow with high quality scans
Not good enough. Photo-shop your circle out.
be grateful someone is providing a copy of the exam
haha, nah I know Yendall was just making a joke (not going to bother editing it out though :P)
Scanned in now, uploading the files now.
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Can't believe, I didn't finish section A (the highest marked!) :'( What's went wrong with all my study :'(
all three sections are out of 20 marks!
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laseredd, upload here Re: 2012 Paper to avoid confusion please :)
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I'll go scan in the exam question booklet then. It'll have the prompt I wrote on circled and a few lines here and there on the language analysis though (I don't highlight, annotate that much though, so it's still fairly clean).
I'll do a fairly rough scan though, scanner is pretty slow with high quality scans
Not good enough. Photo-shop your circle out.
be grateful someone is providing a copy of the exam
haha I was just joking.
haha, nah I know Yendall was just making a joke (not going to bother editing it out though :P)
Scanned in now, uploading the files now.
Yeah you wouldn't.
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Can't believe, I didn't finish section A (the highest marked!) :'( What's went wrong with all my study :'(
all three sections are out of 20 marks!
I'm guessing pyro is doing ESL, where it's not evenly distributed.
laseredd, upload here Re: 2012 Paper to avoid confusion please :)
Yeah sure.
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The prompts for Dear America and Identity/Belonging were quite simple and easy to understand which was good.
The persuasive analysis slides/speech was straight to the point.. audience in the background information.. perfect
I think i did well. :)
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Can't believe, I didn't finish section A (the highest marked!) :'( What's went wrong with all my study :'(
all three sections are out of 20 marks!
nope, he does ESL. Section A is 40, B 30, C 30. A is the most important
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Can't believe, I didn't finish section A (the highest marked!) :'( What's went wrong with all my study :'(
I haven't finished section C. Was writing and they said pen down, my life ended
Yea. I feel you. Curse the damn clock for running so quick!
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Can't believe, I didn't finish section A (the highest marked!) :'( What's went wrong with all my study :'(
I haven't finished section C. Was writing and they said pen down, my life ended
Yea. I feel you. Curse the damn clock for running so quick!
yeah true, they even didn't let me write down the last word. How did you go with section B and C?
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Section A: Year of Wonders, first prompt was really really good and i think i did pretty well on that one.
B: Conflict and Paradise Road, prompt was good but i ran out of time and didn't finish it off as well as i could have.
C: Pretty easy in my opinion :) Was pretty happy with the analysis side of things. The contention was clear, and there was also a clear tone change that was easy to talk about.
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Can't believe, I didn't finish section A (the highest marked!) :'( What's went wrong with all my study :'(
I haven't finished section C. Was writing and they said pen down, my life ended
Yea. I feel you. Curse the damn clock for running so quick!
yeah true, they even didn't let me write down the last word. How did you go with section B and C?
Quite pleased with section B. My order was CAB, but A was so hard for me so I wasted a lot of time to plan out the essay. When I couldn't get anything to a paragraph, I quickly ran to B. When I finally came to A, there's only a short amount of time left.
BTW, I'm doing Cosi for A and conflict for B. How about u?
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Just a heads up, regardless of how you did and how tempting it is to think over it, the best thing you can do is to continue to prepare for your other exams!
Hope you all get more than what you deserve ;)
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Overall, I thought it was a fair exam.
Topics, Prompts and Language Analysis were all very reasonable and accessible.
I wrote so fast that I think I pulled a muscle in my hand (If that's even possible), my fingers keep twitching.
Glad its over though. A great weight has been lifted off my chest.
Next up - Psychology!
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I haven't finished section C. Was writing and they said pen down, my life ended
yeah true, they even didn't let me write down the last word. How did you go with section B and C?
You had one word to finishing right?
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Oh, and! I didn't have a single shred of adrenaline. My heart rate was not higher in anyway than my normal resting heart rate. That whole exam I was just like ""Cool... wonder when the adrenaline will kick in and give my word count a push... could really use some right now.... is it coming... hmm... nope... hmmm"" Not a shred. Was so weird. During my mid year I couldn't highlight questions properly because my hand was shaking so badly.
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Really don't know how I went. I was hoping for a 35+ but I think it's more likely going to be a low 30 now.
I went CBA (just realised that's the acronym for Commonwealth Bank of Australia of Australia LOL)
Text Response - By far the weakest for me, responded to the first prompt of Year of Wonders and overall really poorly worded and formed essay. My examples weren't too solid and whilst I had two properly integrated quotes I think I retold the story too much (didn't really see an opportunity to introduce metalanguage to keep me on track).
Context - Decent, my english tutor kept saying they'd probably do something about adopting a 'personna' to suit a situation or environment. So I had written on it before which is great, although I don't feel that my essay was special in any shape or form which is a tad concerning.
Language Analysis - I found it pretty difficult, there wasn't a whole lot of different techniques she used. The majority of them I found were: rhetorical questions, inclusive language and another two that have escaped my mind. But imo there was a LOT of tone change, so i ended up with paragraph one being how Elliot first establishes her tone, the image also reaffirming it. Paragraph two ended up as the tonal shifts that occured throughout the speech and Paragraph three was her use of inclusive language, rhetorical questions and another thing in combination to appeal to something haha.
EDIT: Yeah haha Brenden, I was like that aswell!
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Any idea what the highest possible mark for section A would be if I only completed 2 paragraphs? They were fairly long, ended up going onto the third page but weren't coherent or well-structured. 3 or 4 or less?
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Quite pleased with section B. My order was CAB, but A was so hard for me so I wasted a lot of time to plan out the essay. When I couldn't get anything to a paragraph, I quickly ran to B. When I finally came to A, there's only a short amount of time left.
BTW, I'm doing Cosi for A and conflict for B. How about u?
Don't worry too much, if you did well section B and C, they can compensate marks for section A
I did The reluctant fundamentalist for A and identity+belonging for B
I haven't finished section C. Was writing and they said pen down, my life ended
yeah true, they even didn't let me write down the last word. How did you go with section B and C?
You had one word to finishing right?
yeah but still important. I was writing "knowledge" but didn't have enough time to write the letter "e" in the end :P I didn't write conclusion in LA either but they said no conclusion need for ESL so...
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Any idea what the highest possible mark for section A would be if I only completed 2 paragraphs? They were fairly long, ended up going onto the third page but weren't coherent or well-structured. 3 or 4 or less?
You could get higher than four if you only had two paragraphs. If they weren't coherent you could get a 0 LOL. If you were aiming for 36 I'll assume you're a mid-high student and say you might be looking around a five at your version of incoherent?
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Ennjy, that is nothing to worry about LOL
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Ennjy, that is nothing to worry about LOL
Nah, its ESL, they care A LOT about grammar and spelling
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So happy that is over. I think I did very well. I did 9.5 pages altogether so I hope it was enough to yield a reasonable grade.
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Bombed the exam to shit.
Did like 5 pages each for context and text then proceeded to not have enough time for LA and did a uncompleted halfassed job....
Kill me with fire :(
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Overall I think it was a pretty good exam, soooo relieved it's over :D
I finished about 20 minutes early which was good because I've always had trouble with timing! Was really happy with the 'Whose reality' prompt, I was honestly expecting something so much harder and it fit my creative piece really well so I got it done very fast. A Christmas Carol prompts were alright, I've written better essays but whateverrrrr
Didn't really like the language analysis, only because it's always been the one I've struggled with but I'm glad it was a speech and nothing horrible like last years :P
I'm not expecting an amazing mark as English is not my strongest subject but it was nice walking out and not feeling like crap :P
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Funny moment straight after the exam i chucked my dictionary as soon as i left the room and accidently hit a yr 11 kid
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My funny story was that a girl was leaning on her seat in front of me and fell off.. She knocked over quite a bit. :P
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Got very excited about the Harry Potter reference!
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Got very excited about the Harry Potter reference!
Me too! It just about made my day! :)
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Got very excited about the Harry Potter reference!
Me too! It just about made my day! :)
Haha it seriously did :') Almost 11 years exactly since the first film came out!
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Hey guys, a few things.
My sac scores were A, B, A, B, A, A
I feel like i got around a B+ - A on the exam. What study score am i looking at? 35?
Thanks.
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Funny moment was when the kid on the table next to me dropped his pen and it rolled under my chair, I didn't notice until he got up and pretty much crawled under my seat...I was like WTF are you doing then one of the Nazi VCAA supervisors came over and they were not happy haha
Also the kid across from me dropped his drink bottle and it made the loudest noise and rolled away hahaha
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People started shouting "penis" after the exam hehe :P
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Funny moment was when the kid on the table next to me dropped his pen and it rolled under my chair, I didn't notice until he got up and pretty much crawled under my seat...I was like WTF are you doing then one of the Nazi VCAA supervisors came over and they were not happy haha
Also the kid across from me dropped his drink bottle and it made the loudest noise and rolled away hahaha
Hahah, pen drops are the funniest!! The best ones resonate across the whole room and all you see is the back of peoples heads because they're looking in the same direction :P
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http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/exams-begin-as-42000-put-pen-to-paper-20121101-28lzx.html
Hope everyone did well! :)
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Funny moment was when the kid on the table next to me dropped his pen and it rolled under my chair, I didn't notice until he got up and pretty much crawled under my seat...I was like WTF are you doing then one of the Nazi VCAA supervisors came over and they were not happy haha
Also the kid across from me dropped his drink bottle and it made the loudest noise and rolled away hahaha
Hahah, pen drops are the funniest!! The best ones resonate across the whole room and all you see is the back of peoples heads because they're looking in the same direction :P
I know hahaha I can't help but laugh!
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Is it just me or am i the only one who did imaginative landscape....?
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Funniest thing I've found so far...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/60702_10152222972955655_1660738199_n.jpg)
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only who described her as a boy in my language analysis (could've used the colour then :P)! I don't think it'll matter, but sucks for her lol.
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I think I remained gender neutral haha.
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Oh fuck - I said boy ~_~
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I'm not even kidding when I say one of my friend's is burning their English books. This was posted on facebook moments ago.
(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381775_4848055048729_473879320_n.jpg).
It's authentic.
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Hahha wow, someone who was actually serious about burning their books?! LOL
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LOL^^
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Funniest thing I've found so far...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/60702_10152222972955655_1660738199_n.jpg)
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only who described her as a boy in my language analysis (could've used the colour then :P)! I don't think it'll matter, but sucks for her lol.
Abnormally huge feet......
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Funniest thing I've found so far...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/60702_10152222972955655_1660738199_n.jpg)
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only who described her as a boy in my language analysis (could've used the colour then :P)! I don't think it'll matter, but sucks for her lol.
Abnormally huge feet......
She could have definitely chosen more gender appropriate socks as well lol.
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I'm more concerned with the pink and brown colour combination :/ Kids these days...
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Happy about the prompts...
A Christmas Carol was interesting wasn't expecting it, but I think I wrote a good piece,
Identity and Belonging was preety goood :P Growing up asian in australia/skin suited it :)
Section C for ESL was very good, felt as if I rushed it, but hope I get a good score for it!
Anyways!! Don't worry if you didn't do as well guys, let's smash the rest of our exams! :)
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Oh fuck - I said boy ~_~
Don't worry, I don't think you're the only one haha
Wait was the image in colour on the exam paper? If it wasn't, probably 99% of people said it was a guy since you wouldn't know the colours...
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Yeah it was in black and white. Don't worry I think many people said she was a boy.
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Yeah I seriously doubt anyone at all realised that it was a girl; I definitely thought it was a boy but inadvertently referred to her as a 'child'.
Plus, even if you were the only one you wouldn't lose marks for it. Chances are the examiners themselves won't know.
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What will happen if you accidently wrote section A in section B and vice versa?
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I felt very normal about this exam to be honest. I had to sit and think about the prompts during reading time instead of immediately getting stuck into it, but hopefully I linked to the prompts enough. LA was very pleasing though, I was content with it.
Walked out feeling a tremendous burden lifted off my shoulders, but I felt like the exam was like any other practise exam I've done. Just felt so normal... I finished writing with 2 mins to go, which was better than normal, and I really hope I net good scores.
Lots of people at MHS were really happy about the exam and lots said they were hoping to get over 40s after that, hopefully our cohort performed very strongly.
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What will happen if you accidently wrote section A in section B and vice versa?
Most likely nothing - remember that the examiners are teachers, they aren't there to punish you! They'll do everything possible to give you the best mark you deserve. Though things like this definitely don't help to get them onside haha.
How did you manage this, if you don't mind me asking?
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I felt very normal about this exam to be honest. I had to sit and think about the prompts during reading time instead of immediately getting stuck into it, but hopefully I linked to the prompts enough. LA was very pleasing though, I was content with it.
Walked out feeling a tremendous burden lifted off my shoulders, but I felt like the exam was like any other practise exam I've done. Just felt so normal... I finished writing with 2 mins to go, which was better than normal, and I really hope I net good scores.
Lots of people at MHS were really happy about the exam and lots said they were hoping to get over 40s after that, hopefully our cohort performed very strongly.
Don't you have around 130-150 scores of above 40 every year?
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The more i think about it the worse i think i went... which is exactly what happened with the UMAT i guess :S
My LA was not up to my usual standard at the first half of my first para, was a bit shaky and nervous and that hurt me a little bit.
Was a bit annoyed it was such a standard and 'easy' LA as it's so much harder to differentiate myself when it's that easy
Thought my context was pretty nice and my text was pretty nice, but not sure if they addressed the prompt enough. 1st KH topic was actually quite hard and had to do some dodgy defining shit. Hope their not too harsh
Not sure what will happen. Desperate to know my marks lol, could get an SS anywhere from 43 to 50 i feel :\
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The stress of exams, did C first and had done plans for A and B, wrote all of A in B and then when i went to write Context, had no where to write it :/
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I felt very normal about this exam to be honest. I had to sit and think about the prompts during reading time instead of immediately getting stuck into it, but hopefully I linked to the prompts enough. LA was very pleasing though, I was content with it.
Walked out feeling a tremendous burden lifted off my shoulders, but I felt like the exam was like any other practise exam I've done. Just felt so normal... I finished writing with 2 mins to go, which was better than normal, and I really hope I net good scores.
Lots of people at MHS were really happy about the exam and lots said they were hoping to get over 40s after that, hopefully our cohort performed very strongly.
Don't you have around 130-150 scores of above 40 every year?
English mean is 37ish so yeah sounds about right.
Like Bazza, I'm unsure about how I went. But I just hope I didn't drop down into an 8 for anything.
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The more i think about it the worse i think i went...
My LA was not up to my usual standard at the first half of my first para, was a bit shaky and nervous and that hurt me a little bit.
Was a bit annoyed it was such a standard and 'easy' LA as it's so much harder to differentiate myself when it's that easy
This.
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The more i think about it the worse i think i went...
My LA was not up to my usual standard at the first half of my first para, was a bit shaky and nervous and that hurt me a little bit.
Was a bit annoyed it was such a standard and 'easy' LA as it's so much harder to differentiate myself when it's that easy
This.
Yeah that's exactly how I felt too. I did LA last so ran out of time and had to rush, only ended up writing three pages and a bit and I didn't even talk about the second slide. So not feeling too good about that, especially since I know I could have written so much more and in way better quality. But overall I guess the exam wasn't too bad. I'm happy with my context and just a bit worried that my text response doesn't focus on the topic enough. Fingers crossed...
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On the subject of writing in the wrong sections..
I know people overuse the expression, "my heart stopped", but I know exactly what that feels like.
I did C,B then A, so after I finished C, I thought I forgot to flip to the section C part of my answer booklet and I almost died, but I was all good.
Then it happened again when I did B but I was all good there as well!
Frustrations.
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Someone dropped their dictionary and it was so freaking loud ahahahahahahahah.
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Are all the exams from one school marked by the same assessor or are they scattered arbirtraily? I lent my friend a sample essay to read over a few weeks ago and it seems as though he has memorised it and written the same one as I did for the exam.... Any chance of both of ours being read by the same assessors? :-\
If you memorised a sample essay and wrote that in the exam, you're technically plagiarising and you're just as much an idiot as your friend is and you're both equally guilty of copying...just putting that out there, you don't have any higher moral ground when you did the exact same thing as him.
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I think he means one of his essays...
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Someone dropped their dictionary and it was so freaking loud ahahahahahahahah.
ahahahahaha
How were the supervisors?? Ours was pretty cool, I got the same guy and lady for Physics too.
Heard that there were a few Nazis?
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Just for the future, if anything like this happens again (with regard to writing in the wrong sections, etc) tell a supervisor ASAP. They will not bite your head off, you only serve to benefit.
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You guys must be so relieved that you never have to sit another 3 hour English exam ever again!!!
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You guys must be so relieved that you never have to sit another 3 hour English exam ever again!!!
You have no idea! I put in so much into that exam I feel incredibly sick right now. Exhausted on every level, never done an exam that's so gruelling. Including the GAT.
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You guys must be so relieved that you never have to sit another 3 hour English exam ever again!!!
You have no idea! I put in so much into that exam I feel incredibly sick right now. Exhausted on every level, never done an exam that's so gruelling. Including the GAT.
yea I had the exact same feeling last year :P So carefree and liberated!
All my exams at Uni are 3:15 hours long though.... Well at least they aren't all essay based.
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Are all the exams from one school marked by the same assessor or are they scattered arbirtraily? I lent my friend a sample essay to read over a few weeks ago and it seems as though he has memorised it and written the same one as I did for the exam.... Any chance of both of ours being read by the same assessors? :-\
If you memorised a sample essay and wrote that in the exam, you're technically plagiarising and you're just as much an idiot as your friend is and you're both equally guilty of copying...just putting that out there, you don't have any higher moral ground when you did the exact same thing as him.
It was an essay that I wrote myself, and I was helping my friend out by sending it to him because he's not that great at English.
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Are all the exams from one school marked by the same assessor or are they scattered arbirtraily? I lent my friend a sample essay to read over a few weeks ago and it seems as though he has memorised it and written the same one as I did for the exam.... Any chance of both of ours being read by the same assessors? :-\
If you memorised a sample essay and wrote that in the exam, you're technically plagiarising and you're just as much an idiot as your friend is and you're both equally guilty of copying...just putting that out there, you don't have any higher moral ground when you did the exact same thing as him.
It was an essay that I wrote myself, and I was helping my friend out by sending it to him because he's not that great at English.
As long as he didn't copy off you during the exam you are fine.
IF you lent it to him then he obviously had your permission as well.
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It was an essay that I wrote myself, and I was helping my friend out by sending it to him because he's not that great at English.
In that case, if you have evidence that you wrote it yourself and he plagiarised, I would report that to the relevant authorities ASAP - I just find it highly disrespectful that he would plagiarise one of your essays without informing you prior and this potentially puts you at risk - I would seriously suggest you see your co-ordinator which relevant evidence in order to back up your claims - always be pre-cautionary.
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You guys must be so relieved that you never have to sit another 3 hour English exam ever again!!!
You have no idea! I put in so much into that exam I feel incredibly sick right now. Exhausted on every level, never done an exam that's so gruelling. Including the GAT.
Have you tried the UMAT?
I ate a muesli bar before I went in, for fear of it being confiscated.
By the time everyone was seated, however, one and a half hours had passed, and I was starving!
After the three hour exam, I was ready to eat the table. That was by far the most gruelling exam for me.
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You guys must be so relieved that you never have to sit another 3 hour English exam ever again!!!
You have no idea! I put in so much into that exam I feel incredibly sick right now. Exhausted on every level, never done an exam that's so gruelling. Including the GAT.
yea I had the exact same feeling last year :P So carefree and liberated!
All my exams at Uni are 3:15 hours long though.... Well at least they aren't all essay based.
None of the subjects I plan to take next year have exams, except for chemistry breadth. Arts ftw hehehe.
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It was an essay that I wrote myself, and I was helping my friend out by sending it to him because he's not that great at English.
In that case, if you have evidence that you wrote it yourself and he plagiarised, I would report that to the relevant authorities ASAP - I just find it highly disrespectful that he would plagiarise one of your essays without informing you prior and this potentially puts you at risk - I would seriously suggest you see your co-ordinator which relevant evidence in order to back up your claims - always be pre-cautionary.
Since when did you change your name from paulsterio to some random letters lol
VILPQ?
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Idk, someone changed it :\
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None of the subjects I plan to take next year have exams, except for chemistry breadth. Arts ftw hehehe.
And you wonder why people make fun of Arts :P
Jokes jokes, but yeah, if there aren't any exams, in return you get a lot more assignments that tend to be worth quite a fair bit, which is good I guess if you put in steady work over the semester :P
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You guys must be so relieved that you never have to sit another 3 hour English exam ever again!!!
You have no idea! I put in so much into that exam I feel incredibly sick right now. Exhausted on every level, never done an exam that's so gruelling. Including the GAT.
yea I had the exact same feeling last year :P So carefree and liberated!
All my exams at Uni are 3:15 hours long though.... Well at least they aren't all essay based.
None of the subjects I plan to take next year have exams, except for chemistry breadth. Arts ftw hehehe.
Breadth??
Sounds like melbourne uni :D
welcome welcome :) great place to go to
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I think the exam was certainly fair - I think it provided scope for stronger students to really shine, but was certainly approachable for weaker English students.
I ended up writing on On the Waterfront for text response, and I went for the second prompt. I was a little shocked when I read the prompts during reading time - I can honestly say that the prompts were not what I was expecting. But I absolutely hated Cosi so writing on that wasn't an option. So I just adapted something I'd previously written and hopefully it answered the question well enough!
I loved the prompt for Encountering Conflict in section B, I thought it was fantastic and very versatile, which is always nice! :) I feel quite confident with my performance in this section particularly, I wrote about 5.5 pages and it was essentially an adapted story I'd written the day before to time which a teacher at my school who is a VCAA marker for English said would most likely score a 9 or 10!
Language analysis... I laughed when I read the Harry Potter reference, haha. Language analysis has always been my least favourite section of the exam, but regardless I wrote 6 pages and still finished the exam with 5 minutes to go, which was just enough time to speed read over everything and check for little spelling and grammatical errors.
All in all I think the exam was a good one, and I am quite happy with my performance.
I did the exam in the order of A, B, C, because I knew I could complete the first 2 sections in under an hour!
With my straight A+ SAC's and a bit of luck, I've got my fingers crossed for a low to mid-40 study score in English! :D
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None of the subjects I plan to take next year have exams, except for chemistry breadth. Arts ftw hehehe.
And you wonder why people make fun of Arts :P
Jokes jokes, but yeah, if there aren't any exams, in return you get a lot more assignments that tend to be worth quite a fair bit, which is good I guess if you put in steady work over the semester :P
I will take that any day haha - I've done three VCAA exams and under performed in each of them. And today was just ridiculously draining. Would rather write ridiculously long essays in 5 minute bursts with plenty of food and entertainment breaks hehehe.
But yeah, not a great rapport for Arts, I must admit :P
You guys must be so relieved that you never have to sit another 3 hour English exam ever again!!!
You have no idea! I put in so much into that exam I feel incredibly sick right now. Exhausted on every level, never done an exam that's so gruelling. Including the GAT.
yea I had the exact same feeling last year :P So carefree and liberated!
All my exams at Uni are 3:15 hours long though.... Well at least they aren't all essay based.
None of the subjects I plan to take next year have exams, except for chemistry breadth. Arts ftw hehehe.
Breadth??
Sounds like melbourne uni :D
welcome welcome :) great place to go to
You have no idea how much I'm looking forward to it!
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Also, in regards to funny moments in exams - a girl in my mid-year biology exam rocked up about 20 minutes late, and then a few minutes after she'd sat down and started writing, her phone went off, and her ringtone was Wild Ones... It was in my head for the rest of the exam! >:(
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Also, in regards to funny moments in exams - a girl in my mid-year biology exam rocked up about 20 minutes late, and then a few minutes after she'd sat down and started writing, her phone went off, and her ringtone was Wild Ones... It was in my head for the rest of the exam! >:(
haha I LOL'ed.
But you go to Frankston High school so i guess that's expected ;) I almost went there.
I went to the primary school next door to it; overport.
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ahahahah @ late comer and phone!
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It was an essay that I wrote myself, and I was helping my friend out by sending it to him because he's not that great at English.
In that case, if you have evidence that you wrote it yourself and he plagiarised, I would report that to the relevant authorities ASAP - I just find it highly disrespectful that he would plagiarise one of your essays without informing you prior and this potentially puts you at risk - I would seriously suggest you see your co-ordinator which relevant evidence in order to back up your claims - always be pre-cautionary.
Problem is I'm not at school anymore so I don't know how I would contact my teachers. I'm really worried now. :-\ What are the chances that both our essays would be marked by the same assessors though? Very likely?
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Idk, someone changed it :\
I swear, I thought your Alias was PaulStereo. How come everyone keeps saying it's PaulSterio, even the quote thing sometimes says that.
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It was an essay that I wrote myself, and I was helping my friend out by sending it to him because he's not that great at English.
In that case, if you have evidence that you wrote it yourself and he plagiarised, I would report that to the relevant authorities ASAP - I just find it highly disrespectful that he would plagiarise one of your essays without informing you prior and this potentially puts you at risk - I would seriously suggest you see your co-ordinator which relevant evidence in order to back up your claims - always be pre-cautionary.
Problem is I'm not at school anymore so I don't know how I would contact my teachers. I'm really worried now. :-\ What are the chances that both our essays would be marked by the same assessors though? Very likely?
Highly unlikely. Even if that happened the assessors mark so many essays in one day that they would hardly recognise the similarities. Let alone know which person's exam it was similar to.
Assessors don't give a shit about copying; that is the Invigilators' job. They just want to mark quickly as possible for the most $$$$$.
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Well, it certainly wasn't fucking funny when I was trying to write a piece in half an hour but a bird flew through my examination room! Good times.
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Well, it certainly wasn't fucking funny when I was trying to write a piece in half an hour but a bird flew through my examination room! Good times.
Nice! How on earth did a bird get in there?!
IN our lit prac exam we were in a room with englang students, but they forgot to give us paper. None of us realised until the end of reading time that we had nothing to write on. When the girl next to me eventually told the supervisor, needless to say, his reaction was classic. Here's hoping nothing like that will happen next week. ;)
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I've spend the last week looking for the 'perfect' pen to use
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ended up using kilometrico :p
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My school thinks that choosing the niche books and contexts will give its students an advantage so I was one of those unlucky students stuck with The Imaginative Landscape, which you need to put your own personal experiences into to even get a good mark so I made up a story of moving houses etc.
Did 'Life Of Pi' for text response and found it quite alright, hopefully my markers do not want me to go into too much detail on faith as many of the references to Christianity are lost on me and so I decided to write about the fantastical elements of the text.
I think VATE prepared its students fairly well for the speech on this years paper, so quite happy that I did their practice exam.
Now all I am dreading is my Lit exam next Friday.
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Did 'Life Of Pi' for text response and found it quite alright, hopefully my markers do not want me to go into too much detail on faith as many of the references to Christianity are lost on me and so I decided to write about the fantastical elements of the text.
Wow, somebody else actually did Life of Pi!!! I didn't mention much of religion either, only briefly mentioned it in one sentence. I felt the first topic was OK, but forgot to mention the Japanese investigators and "no factual difference" hopefully wont be too damaging :-\ I did do a nice bit on the novel set in Portugal though. The second topic was awful!
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Language analysis wasen't hard, however my analysis itself was weak...
Smashed the encountering conflict prompt
My text; The Reluctant Fundamentalist provided the prompt that i had been wishing for!
All in all, quite satisfied, but would love to have performed better on the language analysis.. ahh well
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Funny moment when it's not until you're halfway through your analysis that you realise the picture of the child with the e-book is a girl! *face palm*
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Funny moment when it's not until you're halfway through your analysis that you realise the picture of the child with the e-book is a girl! *face palm*
Shit I don't think I noticed that at all... luckily I'm pretty sure I just described them as a child/teenager
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Well, it certainly wasn't fucking funny when I was trying to write a piece in half an hour but a bird flew through my examination room! Good times.
Nice! How on earth did a bird get in there?!
IN our lit prac exam we were in a room with englang students, but they forgot to give us paper. None of us realised until the end of reading time that we had nothing to write on. When the girl next to me eventually told the supervisor, needless to say, his reaction was classic. Here's hoping nothing like that will happen next week. ;)
That's an absolute pisser
I swear all literature invigilators are retarded, even if they supervise other subjects' exams.
I had one that was all up in ma grill last year, leaning on the back of my chair for support as he bent down to pick up my placecard that had fallen off of my desk in the last five minutes of writing time. I audibly said "What the Fuck, man?" and they didn't pull me up on it because they realized that they were being incredibly disruptive. Everyone heard it and asked be about it afterwards, but it didn't petrify the atmosphere. It just kinda let everyone know something sucked.
Nothing happened after that.
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Language analysis wasen't hard, however my analysis itself was weak...
Smashed the encountering conflict prompt
My text; The Reluctant Fundamentalist provided the prompt that i had been wishing for!
All in all, quite satisfied, but would love to have performed better on the language analysis.. ahh well
yay! another student who did the reluctant fundamentalist, i choose topic 2, what did you choose?
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Well, it certainly wasn't fucking funny when I was trying to write a piece in half an hour but a bird flew through my examination room! Good times.
Nice! How on earth did a bird get in there?!
IN our lit prac exam we were in a room with englang students, but they forgot to give us paper. None of us realised until the end of reading time that we had nothing to write on. When the girl next to me eventually told the supervisor, needless to say, his reaction was classic. Here's hoping nothing like that will happen next week. ;)
That's an absolute pisser
I swear all literature invigilators are retarded, even if they supervise other subjects' exams.
I had one that was all up in ma grill last year, leaning on the back of my chair for support as he bent down to pick up my placecard that had fallen off of my desk in the last five minutes of writing time. I audibly said "What the Fuck, man?" and they didn't pull me up on it because they realized that they were being incredibly disruptive. Everyone heard it and asked be about it afterwards, but it didn't petrify the atmosphere. It just kinda let everyone know something sucked.
Nothing happened after that.
Last year in methods, during reading time, the examiner kept trying to chat about the weather with me and the aircon at her house. She did that for about a full five minutes. I would've laughed if I wasn't so stressed at the time :P
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I was so hopeless yesterday. There was a couple of mainstream student's responses amongst my notes. So I picked one and memorised it. The exam question was same. I wrote 4.5 pages in just 30 mins. Expecting a 10
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I was so hopeless yesterday. There was a couple of mainstream student's responses amongst my notes. So I picked one and memorised it. The exam question was same. I wrote 4.5 pages in just 30 mins. Expecting a 10
That is just pathetic
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I was so hopeless yesterday. There was a couple of mainstream student's responses amongst my notes. So I picked one and memorised it. The exam question was same. I wrote 4.5 pages in just 30 mins. Expecting a 10
That is just pathetic
I call it 'luck'
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I was so hopeless yesterday. There was a couple of mainstream student's responses amongst my notes. So I picked one and memorised it. The exam question was same. I wrote 4.5 pages in just 30 mins. Expecting a 10
Karma will give you a 9. Or less :)
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I was so hopeless yesterday. There was a couple of mainstream student's responses amongst my notes. So I picked one and memorised it. The exam question was same. I wrote 4.5 pages in just 30 mins. Expecting a 10
Plagiarism...?
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I was so hopeless yesterday. There was a couple of mainstream student's responses amongst my notes. So I picked one and memorised it. The exam question was same. I wrote 4.5 pages in just 30 mins. Expecting a 10
Plagiarism...?
I'm esl student and actually similar topic was my practice essay question. My ideas were just same...just sharpened my expressions. that's it.
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You just contradicted yourself...
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On the Waterfront I was fairly confident with, smashed a solid 5 and a half pages on the maintaining power question, hoping for a 9-10 on that one.
Context I&B was also about 5 and a bit pages, prompt was a bit weird but I just kept referring and linking back to the prompt to be safe, hopefully a 9 on this.
Then e-books came along. MAKE UP YOUR MIND MRS ELLIOT WHICH ONE DO YOU LIKE MORE. I ended up screwing up my contention and because I was just so confused at the time and was rushing on time I didn't analyse any of the advantages of e-books and just completely ignored the first visual. Instead I analysed the crap out of why books are better and should be preserved. Probably getting around a 7 on this but who knows :( brb burning my kindle.
Overall I thought I put out 2 strong essays and 1 average one, hopefully I achieve my goal of 45 :)
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You just contradicted yourself...
only difference was 'misused power' and and power used to punish those who cannot fight back. Isn't that the same or similar? whatever it is
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Yeah, but you memorised a mainstream student's essay. Beats the whole purpose of studying ESL...
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Yeah, but you memorised a mainstream student's essay. Beats the whole purpose of studying ESL...
While those who have stayed in Australia for 6 years and are capable of studying mainstream English don't beat the purpose of studying ESL, my attempt to memorise a random essay beats it? While those rich ones coming to Australia for their education don't beat the purpose of ESL but when I study day and night..only by myself..with youth allowance, I beat it? Yeah I beat the whole purpose of ESL.
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I don't think you get the point, all English students who present their OWN work are deserving of their marks. That is all.
Those who are capable of beating mainstream students are the ones who are doing what the subject asks of - they're not defeating the purpose of the subject... you are, by memorising someone's essay rather than write your own, which is the whole point of the subject.
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I don't think you get the point, all English students who present their OWN work are deserving of their marks. That is all.
Those who are capable of beating mainstream students are the ones who are doing what the subject asks of - they're not defeating the purpose of the subject... you are, by memorising someone's essay rather than write your own, which is the whole point of the subject.
but why would they not just do mainstream English instead of ESL? Scared of being a random student in that group? Now their decisions are not immoral but mine is? If they are not studying mainstream English just to be a number one in ESL in spite of their capabilities, I have a right to memorise a mainstream student's essay to equalise myself...
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I dont think you understand the point. You didnt do your own work. No one cares about capabilities, maybe if you did the work yourself you could have equalised yourself anyway. Those 'capable' students did their own work regardless to get to such a level. You did not.
You are going to get disapproval here because you plagiarized.
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I dont think you understand the point. You didnt do your own work. No one cares about capabilities, maybe if you did the work yourself you could have equalised yourself anyway. Those 'capable' students did their own work regardless to get to such a level. You did not.
You are going to get disapproval here because you plagiarized.
Yeah by studying english for 6 years while I've only studied it for 2 years.
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I dont think you understand the point. You didnt do your own work. No one cares about capabilities, maybe if you did the work yourself you could have equalised yourself anyway. Those 'capable' students did their own work regardless to get to such a level. You did not.
You are going to get disapproval here because you plagiarized.
Yeah by studying english for 6 years while I've only studied it for 2 years.
What the...
Anyway, next year, I want to play the humming game during reading time. One person starts humming and everyone joins in hahahha
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Are all the exams from one school marked by the same assessor or are they scattered arbirtrarily? I lent my friend a sample essay to read over a few weeks ago and it seems as though he has memorised it and written the same one as I did for the exam.... It was a really good one as well, 9-10 easy. Any chance of both of ours being read by the same assessors? And would it jeopardise my score in any way? :-\ :( >:(
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I don't think you get the point, all English students who present their OWN work are deserving of their marks. That is all.
Those who are capable of beating mainstream students are the ones who are doing what the subject asks of - they're not defeating the purpose of the subject... you are, by memorising someone's essay rather than write your own, which is the whole point of the subject.
but why would they not just do mainstream English instead of ESL? Scared of being a random student in that group? Now their decisions are not immoral but mine is? If they are not studying mainstream English just to be a number one in ESL in spite of their capabilities, I have a right to memorise a mainstream student's essay to equalise myself...
Nobody has the 'right' to memorise another person's essay and write it as their own under any circumstances. It's appalling that you think it is okay to do so.
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I don't think you get the point, all English students who present their OWN work are deserving of their marks. That is all.
Those who are capable of beating mainstream students are the ones who are doing what the subject asks of - they're not defeating the purpose of the subject... you are, by memorising someone's essay rather than write your own, which is the whole point of the subject.
but why would they not just do mainstream English instead of ESL? Scared of being a random student in that group? Now their decisions are not immoral but mine is? If they are not studying mainstream English just to be a number one in ESL in spite of their capabilities, I have a right to memorise a mainstream student's essay to equalise myself...
Nobody has the 'right' to memorise another person's essay and write it as their own under any circumstances. It's appalling that you think it is okay to do so.
See above. The same thing happened to me because my friend memorised my essay and wrote it, and I also wrote it as well. What are the chances of the same assessor reading it and would this jeopardise my mark in any way? >:( >:(
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Well if the same assessor read it, you'd both get 0 and VCAA would probably want to have a chat with you two.
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Well if the same assessor read it, you'd both get 0 and VCAA would probably want to have a chat with you two.
Even though I didn't do anything wrong?! >:( Would they consult us before hand or would they automatically give me a zero?
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Well if the same assessor read it, you'd both get 0 and VCAA would probably want to have a chat with you two.
Even though I didn't do anything wrong?! >:( Would they consult us before hand or would they automatically give me a zero?
You gave your essay to someone, so you did do something. Obviously you can't help if he copied your essay word for word, however you can prevent him from copying it by not giving it to him in the first place. If they catch you (which is possible as you're at the same school) then there could be serious consequences, and I don't think there is really any justification that will save you.
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Well if the same assessor read it, you'd both get 0 and VCAA would probably want to have a chat with you two.
Even though I didn't do anything wrong?! >:( Would they consult us before hand or would they automatically give me a zero?
You gave your essay to someone, so you did do something. Obviously you can't help if he copied your essay word for word, however you can prevent him from copying it by not giving it to him in the first place. If they catch you (which is possible as you're at the same school) then there could be serious consequences, and I don't think there is really any justification that will save you.
I didn't give it to him during the exam, it was ages ago because he wanted to see a sample essay. I don't see how I've done anything wrong.
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If you can prove you wrote the essay and if he says you wrote the essay then you *could* get a lesser penalty (somehow).
It's a grey area, but you're not in a good position if VCAA finds out.
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Well if the same assessor read it, you'd both get 0 and VCAA would probably want to have a chat with you two.
Even though I didn't do anything wrong?! >:( Would they consult us before hand or would they automatically give me a zero?
You gave your essay to someone, so you did do something. Obviously you can't help if he copied your essay word for word, however you can prevent him from copying it by not giving it to him in the first place. If they catch you (which is possible as you're at the same school) then there could be serious consequences, and I don't think there is really any justification that will save you.
I didn't give it to him during the exam, it was ages ago because he wanted to see a sample essay. I don't see how I've done anything wrong.
Yes, I understand what you're saying. But you initially gave him the essay leaving it open for plagiarism. If you do get caught, he could admit to copying, if he doesn't then you're both probably in the wrong. I wouldn't stress over it though.
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If you can prove you wrote the essay and if he says you wrote the essay then you *could* get a lesser penalty (somehow).
It's a grey area, but you're not in a good position if VCAA finds out.
But why would I get a penalty in the first place? What's wrong with my giving a sample essay to a friend? Teaches give out sample essays all the time.
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As I said, if he claims you copied him (to save his own ass) then you're going to be in a fair bit of trouble. I'd say VCAA would probably get you both in trouble for it unless he outrightly says he's guilty. Again, it's a grey area.
Did you specifically tell him not to copy?
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As I said, if he claims you copied him (to save his own ass) then you're going to be in a fair bit of trouble. I'd say VCAA would probably get you both in trouble for it unless he outrightly says he's guilty. Again, it's a grey area.
Did you specifically tell him not to copy?
No, but I didn't think he would memorise it word for word and write it out. Besides, he's not the brightest fellow and the essay was at least a 9-10, and I'm ranked very high in my school for SACs and my other 2 essays in the exam would surely prove that I was the one who originally wrote it? Surely common sense would prevail here.
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As I said, if he claims you copied him (to save his own ass) then you're going to be in a fair bit of trouble. I'd say VCAA would probably get you both in trouble for it unless he outrightly says he's guilty. Again, it's a grey area.
Did you specifically tell him not to copy?
No, but I didn't think he would memorise it word for word and write it out. Besides, he's not the brightest fellow and the essay was at least a 9-10, and I'm ranked very high in my school for SACs and my other 2 essays in the exam would surely prove that I was the one who originally wrote it? Surely common sense would prevail here.
VCAA could look into rankings and scores if it were to come down to that.
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As I said, if he claims you copied him (to save his own ass) then you're going to be in a fair bit of trouble. I'd say VCAA would probably get you both in trouble for it unless he outrightly says he's guilty. Again, it's a grey area.
Did you specifically tell him not to copy?
No, but I didn't think he would memorise it word for word and write it out. Besides, he's not the brightest fellow and the essay was at least a 9-10, and I'm ranked very high in my school for SACs and my other 2 essays in the exam would surely prove that I was the one who originally wrote it? Surely common sense would prevail here.
VCAA could look into rankings and scores if it were to come down to that.
Oh man. I was quite pleased with how I went after the exam and now this has gotten me all worried. How are the essays distributed to assessors though? Completely arbitrarily?
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^ To be honest, who knows how they distribute essays around now, because the whole exam booklet is scanned in. And it used to be 3 separate booklets.
Last week, I found out that one student from last year basically copied word for word one of my term 1 essays for their last SAC, I didn't realise til one of my students brought in sample A+ essays that were photocopied for the class. Literally 50% of the essay was all my wording, I mean not even I could remember the exact wording in a SAC, so clearly they cheated and brought in notes OR spent ages memorising... Not sure if they copied in the exam as well but meh nothing happened. Just moral of the story for anyone doing the subject next year - don't show anyone your essays! Haha
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I think you all might be blowing this out of proportion.
The chances that the same assessor is going to read these two essays is unbelievably miniscule, given that there are over 150000 essays written each year.
Also, just think about how many kids, out of the 50000 across the state, wrote memorised essays in the exam. I am sure there are teachers everywhere who give all their students essays to memorise for exams, especially for context. It's not illegal at all. Imagine how many people, if there essays were similar to others, would get "talked to by VCAA"? Probably the majority.
For French orals, probably the majority schools, not mine, get their class to memorise the same introduction and the same answers to any possible questions. And due to the limited amount of assessors, the same assessors will hear the same introduction and hear very similar answers to questions. (My teacher is an assessor) Do these students and schools get in trouble? Of course not. And it happens almost all of the time. They are told to mark each student independently from the other.
I'm quite sure that each essay will be marked independently from the other. And it's not illegal or anything. Nor is it cheating. Cheating is looking over somebody's shoulder and writing what they're writing. Nobody knows the prompts, so using something that you have memorised, that may be someone else's work, is not cheating. You use your resources to answer the unknown.
I'm sure "Deleted User" is one of many who memorised essays, and who shared them around. It makes sense. Let's not pretend the whole state are angels hahaha
I hope that all makes sense. I know what he may have done is morally wrong, but nothing will happen. It's the way exams work.
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Personally I was extremely pleased with how I went in my exam. For once in my life, I actually finished all 3 essays and it felt like all of my hard work (I'd written 25-30 essays to time just in the last 2-3 weeks) paid off immensely! I ended up writing 20+ pages and I just felt an overwhelming sense of satisfaction afterwards and I hope my study score reflects it.
^moral of the story for anyone doing the subject next year - don't show anyone your essays! Haha
I totally disagree. If you lend out your work to other people, it's likely that they'll take some of your ideas and use it in their own essays. Personally I did it all the time because I was willing to help my cohort out so they could achieve a higher score and the school's marks would go up. And I had some people tell me that they really liked this particular idea and were going to use it in their essays which I had no issues with.
Deleted User, I doubt that firstly, your essays are identical word for word (because the probability of that is like 0. Secondly, that it will be classified as cheating if they are similar, because the examiners and assessors will read essays of the same text expressing the exact same ideas like 75% of the time, so if 2 essays are similar, so be it. Don't worry about it so much, I'm sure you did fine!
I agree with Hermione11.
I hope you all did fantastically yesterday.
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Good point Hermione!
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Just wondering what the repercussions of not putting the text I drew my ideas from in the box at the top in my context essay?
My piece was an expository, but as I only analysed The Crucible it is pretty obvious what I drew my examples from.
Just wondering if what (if any) impact this will have on my mark?
English is one of my strongest subjects and I'm near the top of a strong cohort, but context has always been my least favourite piece and averaged about 8, I hope this stuff up doesn't bring it any lower :-\
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using something that you have memorised, that may be someone else's work, is not cheating
Using someone else's work is cheating. It doesn't matter whether you're looking over their shoulder or you've memorised it.
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using something that you have memorised, that may be someone else's work, is not cheating
Using someone else's work is cheating. It doesn't matter whether you're looking over their shoulder or you've memorised it.
I am referring to cheating in a VCE examination, not the actual definition of cheating.
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using something that you have memorised, that may be someone else's work, is not cheating
Using someone else's work is cheating. It doesn't matter whether you're looking over their shoulder or you've memorised it.
I am referring to cheating in a VCE examination, not the actual definition of cheating.
Do you think I'll be okay then?
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I totally disagree. If you lend out your work to other people, it's likely that they'll take some of your ideas and use it in their own essays. Personally I did it all the time because I was willing to help my cohort out so they could achieve a higher score and the school's marks would go up. And I had some people tell me that they really liked this particular idea and were going to use it in their essays which I had no issues with.
Agreed, sharing work is very good for the entire cohort (provided that it's a hard-working one)
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I totally disagree. If you lend out your work to other people, it's likely that they'll take some of your ideas and use it in their own essays. Personally I did it all the time because I was willing to help my cohort out so they could achieve a higher score and the school's marks would go up. And I had some people tell me that they really liked this particular idea and were going to use it in their essays which I had no issues with.
Agreed, sharing work is very good for the entire cohort (provided that it's a hard-working one)
Yeah but not if they copy your essay word for word.
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I'm a goner my context essay was rubbish i waffled it all the way. I'm extremely disappointed because i know i could have done much much better :(
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By how much exactly can your cohort bring you down? I would say I'm in the top 3 of the cohort but the rest (well, most of them) aren't very hard workers and some of them didnt even do a section of the exam. I know that will affect my study score, but by how much? :-\
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By how much exactly can your cohort bring you down? I would say I'm in the top 3 of the cohort but the rest (well, most of them) aren't very hard workers and some of them didnt even do a section of the exam. I know that will affect my study score, but by how much? :-\
Not at all if the two above you are as good or better than you.
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Hey, my friend is concerned that during the eam stress he coloured in the right box for which text response he was doing, but then failed to colour in the right question. Eg: wrote on question II) when coloured box I) :S will this matter or will the examiners see this and realise the minor mistake??
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It won't matter.
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By how much exactly can your cohort bring you down? I would say I'm in the top 3 of the cohort but the rest (well, most of them) aren't very hard workers and some of them didnt even do a section of the exam. I know that will affect my study score, but by how much? :-\
Not at all if the two above you are as good or better than you.
Damn. The boy ranked no1 said he stuffed up the exam and didn't even finish the paper whereas I thought I did a good job... That seriously sucks :\
Oh well, thanks for your help :)
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By how much exactly can your cohort bring you down? I would say I'm in the top 3 of the cohort but the rest (well, most of them) aren't very hard workers and some of them didnt even do a section of the exam. I know that will affect my study score, but by how much? :-\
Not at all if the two above you are as good or better than you.
Damn. The boy ranked no1 said he stuffed up the exam and didn't even finish the paper whereas I thought I did a good job... That seriously sucks :\
Oh well, thanks for your help :)
This doesn't matter - so long as there are two people in your cohort who did really well. For example, I'm just hoping that at least one person in my entire cohort of 250 got full marks in the exam (or close) haha. That's all that matters.
For chem I'd need a few people to do really well in the exam for my SAC scores to be good, as I'm ranked highly but not quite #1. Those people don't necessarily have to be higher than me. Say I'm ranked #5, if 5 people do extremely well my SACs will scale up to near full.
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By how much exactly can your cohort bring you down? I would say I'm in the top 3 of the cohort but the rest (well, most of them) aren't very hard workers and some of them didnt even do a section of the exam. I know that will affect my study score, but by how much? :-\
Not at all if the two above you are as good or better than you.
Damn. The boy ranked no1 said he stuffed up the exam and didn't even finish the paper whereas I thought I did a good job... That seriously sucks :\
Oh well, thanks for your help :)
This doesn't matter - so long as there are two people in your cohort who did really well. For example, I'm just hoping that at least one person in my entire cohort of 250 got full marks in the exam (or close) haha. That's all that matters.
For chem I'd need a few people to do really well in the exam for my SAC scores to be good, as I'm ranked highly but not quite #1. Those people don't necessarily have to be higher than me. Say I'm ranked #5, if 5 people do extremely well my SACs will scale up to near full.
You go to Glenny, your SACS will scale up :P
I was ranked so bad for English and still got 2 A+ for sacs. And by bad I mean 60% On one of my sacs.. And none near the top
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What would one get for SACs in Methods if they only scored 75/100 at Glenny? 32/40 for Unit 4 and 44/60 for Unit 3...haha.
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What would one get for SACs in Methods if they only scored 75/100 at Glenny? 32/40 for Unit 4 and 44/60 for Unit 3...haha.
thats not even that bad.. Dw smash the exam and 40+ is still easily achievable
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Anyone have any funny moments , one girl started to cry in my exam
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Anyone have any funny moments , one girl started to cry in my exam
It's not really that funny is it :(
I tend to feel really sorry for those who really had it tough in the exam. Like it's all down to this and I've stuffed up. :'( I can't believe to imagine what that would feel like!
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Anyone have any funny moments , one girl started to cry in my exam
It's not really that funny is it :(
I tend to feel really sorry for those who really had it tough in the exam. Like it's all down to this and I've stuffed up. :'( I can't believe to imagine what that would feel like!
Arrrrrh. My message didn't work she cried because her pen was confiscated
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Where we had to do our exam is this oldish room that was big enough for all of us. Windy cold day. The whole place was making noise. Every minute someone would look up at the roof (lights swinging) expects the roof to fall down :P
I was sick of Mrs. Elliot by the end.
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Anyone have any funny moments , one girl started to cry in my exam
It's not really that funny is it :(
I tend to feel really sorry for those who really had it tough in the exam. Like it's all down to this and I've stuffed up. :'( I can't believe to imagine what that would feel like!
Arrrrrh. My message didn't work she cried because her pen was confiscated
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, context does help. :D
Why did they confiscate her pen, and did she not bring a spare pen... One would think that's a wise idea.
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Anyone have any funny moments , one girl started to cry in my exam
It's not really that funny is it :(
I tend to feel really sorry for those who really had it tough in the exam. Like it's all down to this and I've stuffed up. :'( I can't believe to imagine what that would feel like!
Arrrrrh. My message didn't work she cried because her pen was confiscated
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, context does help. :D
Why did they confiscate her pen, and did she not bring a spare pen... One would think that's a wise idea.
I had 10+ pens haha
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Anyone have any funny moments , one girl started to cry in my exam
It's not really that funny is it :(
I tend to feel really sorry for those who really had it tough in the exam. Like it's all down to this and I've stuffed up. :'( I can't believe to imagine what that would feel like!
Arrrrrh. My message didn't work she cried because her pen was confiscated
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, context does help. :D
Why did they confiscate her pen, and did she not bring a spare pen... One would think that's a wise idea.
I had 10+ pens haha
Always go in with at least 5 pens. And from experience, go in with at least 4 highlighters.
ALso make sure you buy at least 3 rubbers cause those bastards always seem to disappear
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I took in 15 pens, 5 highlighters and countless other stationery items. Only used the one pen haha.
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I took in 15 pens, 5 highlighters and countless other stationery items. Only used the one pen haha.
glenny tradition
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I took in 15 pens, 5 highlighters and countless other stationery items. Only used the one pen haha.
Story of my year of English.
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I took in 15 pens, 5 highlighters and countless other stationery items. Only used the one pen haha.
glenny tradition
I was on the lighter side too; some people filled their plastic sleeves to the brim.
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I took in 15 pens, 5 highlighters and countless other stationery items. Only used the one pen haha.
Heeeeh. :P
I take in 15 and I use at least half. I like to change pens per piece or per paragraph or plan or what not.
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i brought in 6 but one had a grip so i used that one for the whole exam :P
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Did anyone else get blisters on their fingers? I got this massive hump on mine it actually hurt to write for the last hour and a half :(
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Did anyone else get blisters on their fingers? I got this massive hump on mine it actually hurt to write for the last hour and a half :(
...the fuck? Hadn't you written for an extended period of time recently?
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Physical pain was the least of my problems really. I think it was more the pressure I put on gripping the actual pen that hurt me the most.
My friend showed me his pen and simply gravity is enough for it work! I reckon I would've written a lot more if I used a better pen.
Live and learn I guess!!