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Title: First-time Myki user
Post by: vcestudent94 on February 26, 2013, 09:58:54 pm
I hardly use public transport and have never used myki. After some researching, I'm getting the concession myki (health care card) and going to use myki money because I'm only going to travel 4 days x 13 weeks per semester and it will be a little cheaper.

What I'm confuse about is the touching off process. I know I have to touch on, but do I need to touch off when all my travel is going to be within zone 1? (To Melbourne Uni and back to Brunswick)
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: jasoN- on February 26, 2013, 10:17:13 pm
going to uni: touch on at brunswick station, touch off at melbourne central (or wherever) to get through the gates
 
tough on/off on trams if u wish (some people don't bother, it doesnt change anything)

going home: touch on at melbourne central to get through gates, travel to brunswick, touch off (or not, this doesn't matter either as you'll be charged for the full day regardless)


Also as a side note, it's good to get your myki registered online (if it isn't already when you bought it) so u can track where you've touched on and off, and it allows you to top up your myki online too which is convenient
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: nacho on February 26, 2013, 10:23:15 pm
touch on when you enter a public transport vehicle and touch off when you get off.

otherwise it will charge you more because eventually the bus will venture into a zone 2, or it will think of your travel as a daily instead of 2hr
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: vcestudent94 on February 26, 2013, 10:33:36 pm
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(some people don't bother, it doesnt change anything)
But wouldn't this be illegal if I'm using myki money?

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otherwise it will charge you more because eventually the bus will venture into a zone 2, or it will think of your travel as a daily instead of 2hr
This is what I'm confused about. Look at the orange box at the bottom of this page:
http://www.myki.com.au/How-to-use/Touching-on---Touching-off
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: alondouek on February 26, 2013, 10:37:48 pm
^All the above advice is good.

Fun (slightly depressing) fact:

Cost of implementing Myki - $1.5 billion
Cost of Mars Rover mission - $777 million


 :o

Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: ninwa on February 26, 2013, 10:57:01 pm
Also as a side note, it's good to get your myki registered online (if it isn't already when you bought it) so u can track where you've touched on and off, and it allows you to top up your myki online too which is convenient

just a warning though, it can take up to 24 hours for online top up to go through

fucking myki
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 26, 2013, 11:03:22 pm
^All the above advice is good.

Fun (slightly depressing) fact:

Cost of implementing Myki - $1.5 billion
Cost of Mars Rover mission - $777 million


 :o



oh gahd
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: vcestudent94 on February 26, 2013, 11:18:34 pm
I get it now. If your tram trip is not entirely in zone 2, you don't new to touch off.
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: alondouek on February 26, 2013, 11:23:42 pm
I get it now. If your tram trip is not entirely in zone 2, you don't new to touch off.

nononono. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but you get charged MORE if you travel between zones (or even if the system thinks you did).

If you travel from zone 1 to 2 (or vice versa), TOUCH OFF.

If you're travelling within a zone, you don't need to.
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: Professor Polonsky on March 06, 2013, 04:26:56 pm
nononono. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but you get charged MORE if you travel between zones (or even if the system thinks you did).

If you travel from zone 1 to 2 (or vice versa), TOUCH OFF.

If you're travelling within a zone, you don't need to.
All trams are within Zone 1. There is no need to touch off, as it will simply charge you a Zone 1 fare on a tram if you do not. The only time you do need to touch off is if you are travelling exclusively in the Zone 1+2 Overlap, in which case you should touch off to receive the cheaper Zone 2 fare (it is cheaper than Zone 1).

This is an unusual scenario though, as only small parts of three tram routes are within the overlap.
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: Hutchoo on March 06, 2013, 04:38:28 pm
just a warning though, it can take up to 24 hours for online top up to go through

fucking myki

This pisses me off so much. I put $20 on my account the day before I travelled and it didn't go through,  which meant I had to put more money onto my account just so I could travel for the day. FUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: ShiCarnt on March 07, 2013, 09:27:45 pm
while travelling on trains, you must touch on AND off otherwise you will be charged the zone 1 and 2 fare. on trams you will not need to touch off, unless your trip is entirely within zone 2 (zone 2 only fare is cheaper than zone 1).
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: Gloamglozer on March 07, 2013, 09:50:42 pm
on trams you will not need to touch off, unless your trip is entirely within zone 2 (zone 2 only fare is cheaper than zone 1).

But that's not possible to do because isn't the entire tram network in zone 1?

So if you are travelling on a tram, just touch on and that's it.
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: ShiCarnt on March 09, 2013, 12:31:54 pm
But that's not possible to do because isn't the entire tram network in zone 1?

as stated before, tram routes 75, 86 and 109 do enter the zone 1/2 overlap (http://ptv.vic.gov.au/maps-stations-stops/metropolitan-maps/metropolitan-tram-network-map/) so when your tram trip takes place entirely within the zone 1 and 2 overlap, you will get charged a cheaper fare if you touch off
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: BigAl on March 09, 2013, 12:43:01 pm
And what I've realised during past few days, your balance isn't deducted when travelling only one stop..don't abuse the system...but keep it in mind if you are really stuck
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: Genericname2365 on April 27, 2013, 08:19:07 pm
Anyone know if you can transfer funds between mykis? I accidentally put a month's funds on the wrong myki online (a broken one which I think I threw out a while ago...wish I'd taken its listing off the myki website). If you can't then it's going to be interesting trying to get it back...  :(
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: sjayne on April 27, 2013, 09:01:17 pm
Actually I'm not sure if this is all correct. I know if I don't touch off my myki (I travel in zone 1) that it takes off the balance next time and also fines me a dollar.

 If you still have the number for the other myki then you can say you lost it and get the money back but otherwise I would just ring up and ask.
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: alondouek on April 27, 2013, 09:11:09 pm
Anyone know if you can transfer funds between mykis? I accidentally put a month's funds on the wrong myki online (a broken one which I think I threw out a while ago...wish I'd taken its listing off the myki website). If you can't then it's going to be interesting trying to get it back...  :(

You can sort of transfer funds... I got a full-fare card and put $20 onto it, but then got a concession Myki through Monash. I asked the train-station guy to transfer the funds when he was 'creating' the concession Myki; he couldn't actually transfer the funds, but he took the balance of my old Myki and credited an equivalent amount to the new one.
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: Professor Polonsky on April 27, 2013, 11:08:01 pm
Actually I'm not sure if this is all correct. I know if I don't touch off my myki (I travel in zone 1) that it takes off the balance next time and also fines me a dollar.
On trains or trams? You're fine not to touch off on trams, but otherwise you need to touch off.
Title: Re: First-time Myki user
Post by: Checkmate on April 27, 2013, 11:53:58 pm
On trains or trams? You're fine not to touch off on trams, but otherwise you need to touch off.
I've seen people skip the touch off for buses too and they didn't get deducted more than a dollar (probably cause it's within a zone or something). That said, last year and before that the system was severely stuffed and touching off on buses didn't register and I copped $5 off each time until I started touching off at the train station instead.