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Archived Discussion => Health & Physical Education => 2014 => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Health & Human Development => Topic started by: Rod on November 05, 2014, 06:00:49 pm
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How did everyone go? I found that it was accessible, but long. I didn't have time to check over answers.
A couple of questions were surprises [questions that normally don't come up] - eg the fat differences, and human rights. Everything else was expected.
Application + theory ... What would you guys say? I reckon it was a bit of both...
In difficulty compared to other exams, I think it was similar to 2013, so the cut off should be around 75%.
Good luck for your other exams :).
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Also the case studies were surprisingly so short. And I thought they were extremely easy to dissect. Data analysis wasn't too complicated, except for me, Ifor data with loads of statistics, I found it hard to choose which stats would be best to use.
And another thing... I ran out of space to write, and they did not give me an extra 'script sheet' as promised by VCAA. They instead gave me another exam, and I used the extra writing space on that exam. Was it the same case for you guys?
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How did everyone go? I found that it was accessible, but long. I didn't have time to check over answers.
A couple of questions were surprises [questions that normally don't come up] - eg the fat differences, and human rights. Everything else was expected.
Application + theory ... What would you guys say? I reckon it was a bit of both...
In difficulty compared to other exams, I think it was similar to 2013, so the cut off should be around 75%.
Good luck for your other exams :).
Great to know the exam was accessible! :) And dw about the script sheet thing, when I needed extra space in my Texts & Trads exam they gave me a few single loose leaf paper and made me put my student number on each one haha so you're totally fine! :)
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I was very surprised with this exam, mainly for how long it was! If you struggled with content, then this exam would have been very challenging. There was a lot more 'memory recollection' than there was case study analysis. All of the graphs and case studies I thought were very easy to understand, however on the other hand, to compensate that 'simplicity' there was a hell of a lot of memory work. Lots of programs too! 4/6 of the Unit 4 programs we had to look at were addressed. (Safe water/sanitation/HIV/immunisation)
I know I screwed up the fats question..
Trans - increases LDL AND decreases LDL
Sat - increases LDL
I think otherwise it was a fairly straight forward exam. But just a lot of memory work. A lot of memory work.
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Apparently we're not allowed to use age a determinant of dementia? I used it ):
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Apparently we're not allowed to use age a determinant of dementia? I used it ):
... I used it too.
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... I used it too.
Oh wait we could, omg stupid me LOL
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I definitely think there should be more application. Memorisation makes the subject a bit bland + boring.
For example the MDG progress question (application) was so awesome. To answer it, you need great understanding of the goal, and it's targets. THen you need to analyse the graph, the progress of each of the regions, and also using all your knowledge apply and explain why these trends occur, and whether the targets will be reached.
This is pure application, don't like it when it's like 'discuss a program you have memorized' or 'define' this and that.
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I definitely think there should be more application. Memorisation makes the subject a bit bland + boring.
For example the MDG progress question (application) was so awesome. To answer it, you need great understanding of the goal, and it's targets. THen you need to analyse the graph, the progress of each of the regions, and also using all your knowledge apply and explain why these trends occur, and whether the targets will be reached.
This is pure application, don't like it when it's like 'discuss a program you have memorized' or 'define' this and that.
I have to agree with you Rod. This exam tested more memory than it did application in my opinion which was disappointing.
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I didn't think the exam was overly long actually. Maybe it's because my teacher always made our SACs really long, so I was used to writing under those sort of time constraints? I loved the fats question and I'm so glad that there was only a 3 mark question on the WHO Agenda because I absolutely hated learning that. I'm surprised that there wasn't all that much on DFAT (especially the priorities). I was really expecting more on DFAT because of how AusAID doesn't exist anymore and has become DFAT.
I thought the VicHealth case study was really accessible and I'm also surprised there weren't more questions on MDGs as these end next year. On the whole, I think I went really well. I think HHD will be my best subject :) Only one more exam to go!
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I stuffed the fats question. Was thinking about the LDL and HDL cholesterol but didn't know which one was for which so ehh..
And for the life of me I couldn't remember the name of the dementia program was referring to.
Considering I haven't picked up a book since my dad died... I'm thrilled with how much I remembered.
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Was it just me, or was this exam really really easy?
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I didn't think the exam was overly long actually. Maybe it's because my teacher always made our SACs really long, so I was used to writing under those sort of time constraints? I loved the fats question and I'm so glad that there was only a 3 mark question on the WHO Agenda because I absolutely hated learning that. I'm surprised that there wasn't all that much on DFAT (especially the priorities). I was really expecting more on DFAT because of how AusAID doesn't exist anymore and has become DFAT.
I thought the VicHealth case study was really accessible and I'm also surprised there weren't more questions on MDGs as these end next year. On the whole, I think I went really well. I think HHD will be my best subject :) Only one more exam to go!
I wasn't sure where to allocate the 3 marks for that question for the WHO. I mentioned Fostering Health Security, then gave a brief definition, then an example.
I thought the Vic Health was easy too. Wasn't too happy that the inter-relationships question was in the middle somewhere.
Glad to hear you found it good. :)
I feel like the cut off will be a bit lower than last years. As I said about a hundred times already, the sheer amount of memory work will really separate people.
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hey guys, for the fats question, it didn't cross my mind to write anything about cholesterol. I said that saturated fat is found naturally in food, while trans fats are man made and resembled with hydrogen atoms added and are mostly found in processed foods. Is there any way i could still get the marks??
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hey guys, for the fats question, it didn't cross my mind to write anything about cholesterol. I said that saturated fat is found naturally in food, while trans fats are man made and resembled with hydrogen atoms added and are mostly found in processed foods. Is there any way i could still get the marks??
That is a difference, so, you're answering the question haha.
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I stuffed the fats question. Was thinking about the LDL and HDL cholesterol but didn't know which one was for which so ehh..
And for the life of me I couldn't remember the name of the dementia program was referring to.
Considering I haven't picked up a book since my dad died... I'm thrilled with how much I remembered.
Hey bluegirl, really happy you did so well! Good luck for your other exams
I actually read that really sad post you made in the 14 thread a couple of days after you had posted it, so I didn't get the chance to say how sorry I am. Your dedication, and hard work even after all that had happened to you this year really inspires me, I have looked up to a couple of atarnote users and you are one of them.
Hope you are well, and like so many have already said, feel free to pm me if you would like to discuss anything. We are all here for you! Let's do this, together!
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hey guys, for the fats question, it didn't cross my mind to write anything about cholesterol. I said that saturated fat is found naturally in food, while trans fats are man made and resembled with hydrogen atoms added and are mostly found in processed foods. Is there any way i could still get the marks??
Can smiley, yearning and co confirm?
I wrote the exact same thing and have been feeling so bad about it since, because I knew I cholesterol stuff but it didn't come to me at the time.
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I stuffed the fats question. Was thinking about the LDL and HDL cholesterol but didn't know which one was for which so ehh..
And for the life of me I couldn't remember the name of the dementia program was referring to.
Considering I haven't picked up a book since my dad died... I'm thrilled with how much I remembered.
I don't think I've replied to you before but can I just say that it is so so admirable that you've been able to put on a brave face and sit your exams? Wow... it truly takes a strong character to be able to do that, you should be really proud of yourself. So many students across the state are complaining about how draining exams are, and yet you've lost a loved one yet found the courage to still sit your exams. It's truly nothing short of incredible. Good luck with the rest of your exams, and my thoughts and prayers go out with your family during this excruciatingly sad time. <3
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I have to agree with you Rod. This exam tested more memory than it did application in my opinion which was disappointing.
My only thoughts on this exam.
What did y'all get for that DFAT question? You know the one about HIV/AIDs? I don't really remember..
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Can smiley, yearning and co confirm?
I wrote the exact same thing and have been feeling so bad about it since, because I knew I cholesterol stuff but it didn't come to me at the time.
well it is a difference so we should be all sweet hopefully! :D
What did you guys get for the question, in relation to obesity whats an issue facing developing countries thats not faced by developed countries? is there a range of answers for this question, just wondering?
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well it is a difference so we should be all sweet hopefully! :D
What did you guys get for the question, in relation to obesity whats an issue facing developing countries thats not faced by developed countries? is there a range of answers for this question, just wondering?
I talked about having lack of access to safe water therefore increasing risk of waterborne diseases in developing countries.
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My only thoughts on this exam.
What did y'all get for that DFAT question? You know the one about HIV/AIDs? I don't really remember..
Ohh that question. ::) :o
I was firstly thinking, 'they've already mentioned burden of disease in the question, what else am I supposed to address?'
But I put a few things down about forming better relationships, promoting trading opportunities and security.
I could be wrong. Happy to see other answers.
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I talked about having lack of access to safe water therefore increasing risk of waterborne diseases in developing countries.
Huh? That contributes to obesity :/. I went completely off track to saying that developed countries are educated about the harm processed foods, alcohol and tobacco smoking does to people and that in developing countries they are not educated about the risks... shit.
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Huh? That contributes to obesity :/. I went completely off track to saying that developed countries are educated about the harm processed foods, alcohol and tobacco smoking does to people and that in developing countries they are not educated about the risks... shit.
I read the question like
"Other than obesity, what is another challenge facing developing countries"
I could have read the question completely wrong.
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hey guys, for the fats question, it didn't cross my mind to write anything about cholesterol. I said that saturated fat is found naturally in food, while trans fats are man made and resembled with hydrogen atoms added and are mostly found in processed foods. Is there any way i could still get the marks??
My heart dropped when I noticed most people were talking about HDL and LDL cholestoral in terms of the difference between the two cause I also talked about how they occur/are made! But I'm quiet sure both answers are valid.. after all it just broadly stated to establish a 'difference' not 'difference in their effects on the body' so I'm quiet sure our answer should be fine :)
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A+ cutoff?
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I read the question like
"Other than obesity, what is another challenge facing developing countries"
I could have read the question completely wrong.
Please don't take my word for it, because exam stress may have caused me to misread it, but I thought the question was asking how developing countries were more adversely affected by obesity than developed. I thought it specified in the question to talk about obesity.
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can someone please explain the human rights question. straight over my head
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A+ cutoff?
I'm predicting 75/100 (so 150/300) or 75%.
Although 40 scales down to like 37 lol.
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Please don't take my word for it, because exam stress may have caused me to misread it, but I thought the question was asking how developing countries were more adversely affected by obesity than developed. I thought it specified in the question to talk about obesity.
The question was in relation to obesity......., i just simply stated that access to health care is an issue in developing countries more than developed countries, so individuals who are obese in developing countries have less opportunity to treat there disease etc, in comparison to developed countries! i hope that pulls me a mark, i was a bit lost for that question!
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The question was in relation to obesity......., i just simply stated that access to health care is an issue in developing countries more than developed countries, so individuals who are obese in developing countries have less opportunity to treat there disease etc, in comparison to developed countries! i hope that pulls me a mark, i was a bit lost for that question!
I said that developing nations would have less income than developed nations to purchase medical technologies needing to treat obesity, leading to worse outcomes for obese people in developing nations compared to developed nations.
I also didn't like that question - I left it until last.
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Aaarggh. Far out. The things we do when we're under stressful conditions. Oh well. Let's try look at the positives.
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I thought the obesity question branched off the context of global marketing.Ugh stress & nerves got the better of me tbh.
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I thought the obesity question branched off the context of global marketing.Ugh stress & nerves got the better of me tbh.
It did - I believe you could only use alcohol or fast foods as your examples of global marketing as these could increase obesity risk due to their high energy content.
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I thought the obesity question branched off the context of global marketing.Ugh stress & nerves got the better of me tbh.
I heard from an examiner that the highest he's ever marked was 95/100. They got a 50. Don't worry about it too much, I think we all succumbed to the stress a little bit.
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Yea I think with awesome sac results, you can afford to lose about 6 marks to 50 health. I think about 20 people get 50 each year. And even if you don't, 40+ is still a really hood score.
Hey, after my English exam I was like 'fuck yes no more essays ever again', but after my health exam I was feeling a bit emotional, health was an awesome subject, and my cohort and teacher was so great. I'm gonna miss health :"(
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Hey, after my English exam I was like 'fuck yes no more essays ever again', but after my health exam I was feeling a bit emotional, health was an awesome subject, and my cohort and teacher was so great. I'm gonna miss health :"(
Yeah I know that feeling. I started VCE with my HHD teacher because I had her for Food Tech, so I've really gotten to know her quite well these past few years. Her classes and my class were the best.
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It did - I believe you could only use alcohol or fast foods as your examples of global marketing as these could increase obesity risk due to their high energy content.
it asked for something about what do developing countries experience that developed countries don't. i said they're not educated on processed foods, alcohol and tobacco hence they consume it-->obesity.
I heard from an examiner that the highest he's ever marked was 95/100. They got a 50. Don't worry about it too much, I think we all succumbed to the stress a little bit.
I actually lost heaps of marks, i just know it :'(. There should've been more interrelationship questions. I did the DFAT questions relating/linking to their priorities :(
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it asked for something about what do developing countries experience that developed countries don't. i said they're not educated on processed foods, alcohol and tobacco hence they consume it-->obesity. I actually lost heaps of marks, i just know it :'(. There should've been more interrelationship questions. I did the DFAT questions relating/linking to their priorities :(
I think it's best that you don't think about all this! It's stressing your out, what's done is done. You can't change anything.
Also, remember its HHd, so there may be more than one approach to answering a question, your approach could have also been correct.
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I think it's best that you don't think about all this! It's stressing your out, what's done is done. You can't change anything.
Also, remember its HHd, so there may be more than one approach to answering a question, your approach could have also been correct.
It's stressing me out too. I reckon I've lost heaps of marks all over the place ahahaa. Far out. Look, I think some of the questions were slightly more ambiguous than others, so I think there's room for lots of different answers.
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Well done on completing the exam guys!
Don't stress out about the exam because they are plenty of ways to answers some questions.
I'm sure you did really well :)
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YES! Guys we did it. :) Amazing achievement.
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(on another note)
I'm curious to hear opinions about the A+ cut-off for this years exam. At least with all my peers we were all really a mixed bag in terms of what we thought of the exam. Half of us thought the exam was easy and short, the other half *including me* thought it was longer and slightly more challenging than practice papers and previous VCAA ones.
I spoke to my health teacher who thought the exam was slightly more difficult and content heavy than last years. Who knows really what will happen, but I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks the cut off will be for this year.
I think it will probably stay at what it was last year, 74% (I think), maybe a bit lower.
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(on another note)
I'm curious to hear opinions about the A+ cut-off for this years exam. At least with all my peers we were all really a mixed bag in terms of what we thought of the exam. Half of us thought the exam was easy and short, the other half *including me* thought it was longer and slightly more challenging than practice papers and previous VCAA ones.
I spoke to my health teacher who thought the exam was slightly more difficult and content heavy than last years. Who knows really what will happen, but I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks the cut off will be for this year.
I think it will probably stay at what it was last year, 74% (I think), maybe a bit lower.
For some reason, most years the HHD exam cut-off for an A+ remains at or around the 75% range - the past few years have been like that and I'm guessing this year will be similar (Unless they decide to make minor changes due to it being the new study design...but I don't think they will! :) ). But I haven't really seen the exam so who knows what it could be! :P In any case, I hope all of you get the awesome marks you truly deserve! :D
Also, don't worry too much about having lost marks here and there (you can only actually guess or assume that you lost marks, but there isn't a set format or "set answer" for any Q in the exam - so chances are, you'll do better than you think and that the VCAA assessor(s) marking your paper - I hope you all get angelic assessors who are kind - will see the light and train of thought within your answers :) Like i wrote so much crap for the ottawa charter enabling, mediating, advocating Q back in 2011 and was sure I wouldn't get any marks for it...but in the end it didn't totally stuff me over! :) so hey if you've written something, you're very likely to get marks for it so be positive :D).
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(on another note)
I'm curious to hear opinions about the A+ cut-off for this years exam. At least with all my peers we were all really a mixed bag in terms of what we thought of the exam. Half of us thought the exam was easy and short, the other half *including me* thought it was longer and slightly more challenging than practice papers and previous VCAA ones.
I spoke to my health teacher who thought the exam was slightly more difficult and content heavy than last years. Who knows really what will happen, but I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks the cut off will be for this year.
I think it will probably stay at what it was last year, 74% (I think), maybe a bit lower.
Personally, i felt that this year's exam was quite strange like some of the questions were really unexpected. Though i feel this years exam was harder than other years. I really hope the A+ cutoff is lowered or stays the same. PLS. I do agree, this years exam was very content heavy.
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What would be the 45+ cutoff?
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What would be the 45+ cutoff?
I spoke to an Atarnote user earlier this year and he got;
Unit 3 -> 99/100
Unit 4 -> 97/100
Exam -> 91% and pulled a 45.
But another friend
Unit 3 -> 100/100
unit 4 -> 100/100
Exam -> 87% -> also 45
SAC marks are extremely influential, especially in health where they contribute for 50%
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I really wouldn't bother asking what the SAC scores/ exam scores people got to attain the marks they did. What really matters is the strength of your cohort and your RANK in the cohort for sacs/exam.
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I think the only curve ball questions I found were the difference between saturated and trans fats (but even then it wasn't hard to come up with a difference) and human rights. Overall it was alright! Not getting my hopes up though, anything could happen.
Fingers crossed.
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can someone help me predict what i get for health?
unit 3 sacs: 87%
unit 4 sacs: 92%
exam 77%
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can someone help me predict what i get for health?
unit 3 sacs: 87%
unit 4 sacs: 92%
exam 77%
Like 41
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thankyou so much!
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would I lose mark if i used dot points?
As in when describing a program just write down points on what it does and how
and what? age wasn't a determinant?
I wrote down advancing age .. would that be correct as opposed as just age..
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would I lose mark if i used dot points?
As in when describing a program just write down points on what it does and how
and what? age wasn't a determinant?
I wrote down advancing age .. would that be correct as opposed as just age..
No no, age was a determinant. I think the dot points should be fine as long as it makes sense.
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hey guys, I've never actually posted on this site before, ever though i look at it almost every day :P but I'm still worried about what answers i put for some questions and desperately need some confirmation on my responses! for the DFAT question on why they provide the HIV program, what did you guys say? and what were reasonable responses? that was the only question where i had to make things up so im really worried, i said that it would reduce poverty and also promote Australia's national interest :/
thanks! also, if someone wanted to predict my study score, that would also be helpful!
GA1: 88/100
GA2: 98/100
GA3: 90ish/100
very strong cohort (rank top 10)
thank you so so much in advance :D
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Hey guys,
I was just wondering if you think I could get a 40+ study score. So scared I'll miss out, get 37, and it will go to 33...
My average for sacs was 87% (quite disappointed tbh, our school has difficult sacs apparently).
And for the exam, 80 - 95/100.
Thanks in advance :)
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Oh and for the fats question.
I wrote "Saturated fat is solid at room temperature, whereas trans fats are liquid at room temperature due to a process known as hydrogenation".
Hope they give it to me, but I doubt it.
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Hey guys,
I was just wondering if you think I could get a 40+ study score. So scared I'll miss out, get 37, and it will go to 33...
My average for sacs was 87% (quite disappointed tbh, our school has difficult sacs apparently).
And for the exam, 80 - 95/100.
Thanks in advance :)
@joystarr -> 80-95/100 will comfortably get you 40+
Studylove -> Those scores and 90+ in the exam should get you 45+
And for the HIV/AIDS question, I really can't remember what I wrote. But it was something in the lines of if HIV/AIDS is reduced, less funds will need to be directed at aid for HIV/AIDS, so the funds can be directed else where.
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thank you so much!
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Thank you Rod, for putting my mind at ease :)
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How many marks overall was the exam?
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Marked out of 100. Heard examiners are strict this year, especially with definitions and data.