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Title: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 26, 2009, 01:33:46 pm
Please help

If Z has the standard normal distribution and Pr(Z< c)= a, where 0<c<3 and 0<a<1, then Pr(|Z|<c) is equal to:

ans. 2a-1
Title: Re: hard question
Post by: TrueTears on August 26, 2009, 01:39:09 pm
Pr(|Z| < c) is the same as Pr(-c < Z < c)

so since Pr(Z < c) = a

then Pr(Z > c) = 1-a

Using symmetry Pr(Z < -c) = 1-a

Therefore the area between -c and c is 1-(2(1-a)) = 1 - 2 + 2a = 2a - 1.
Title: Re: hard question
Post by: khalil on August 26, 2009, 02:51:17 pm
thanks bro
Title: Re: hard question
Post by: khalil on August 26, 2009, 08:23:54 pm
What does the are under a graph represent?
Title: Re: hard question
Post by: TrueTears on August 26, 2009, 08:26:16 pm
What does the are under a graph represent?
??????????????????????
Title: Re: hard question
Post by: NE2000 on August 26, 2009, 08:31:01 pm
What does the are under a graph represent?

Under a pdf (including a normal distribution curve), it represents the probability

If that's not what you're asking, I empathize with TT
Title: Re: hard question
Post by: khalil on August 26, 2009, 08:49:17 pm
My sincere apologies, I mean in terms of integration, I've found the area under the graph so much, but what does it represent. Like, can you give me an example of a situation in which it is used.
Title: Re: hard question
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on August 26, 2009, 09:31:15 pm
when you integrate a function, ur pretty much multiplying  y* x, eg. under a velocity-time graph, its the displacement which is just velocity * time
Title: Re: hard question
Post by: khalil on August 27, 2009, 09:49:06 am
What does proportional mean in terms of maths, eg. the nubmber of new days is proportional  to p(t). Does that simply mean there is a difference between both is a constant?
Title: Re: hard question
Post by: zzdfa on August 27, 2009, 10:00:21 am
it means new days = k * p(t) for some constant k
Title: Re: hard question
Post by: khalil on August 27, 2009, 10:14:00 am
so does that mean proportion of one thing and another is the multiple of k?
Title: Re: hard question
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on August 27, 2009, 03:26:48 pm
so does that mean proportion of one thing and another is the multiple of k?

it means when one thing increases, other thing increases too
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 27, 2009, 03:38:33 pm
At each of a series of trials, the probability of the occurence of a certain event is 0.5, except this cannot occur in 2 consecutive trials.

Show that the prob. of it occuring just twice in three trials is 0.25.
ans.
E=event
N=no event

ENE= 0.5*1*0.5= 0.25

My Question: why is N, 1?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: shinny on August 27, 2009, 04:39:10 pm
At each of a series of trials, the probability of the occurence of a certain event is 0.5, except this cannot occur in 2 consecutive trials.

Show that the prob. of it occuring just twice in three trials is 0.25.
ans.
E=event
N=no event

ENE= 0.5*1*0.5= 0.25

My Question: why is N, 1?


Because it's stated that the event (E) cannot occur in 2 consecutive trials. If E cannot occur, then N must occur, therefore Pr(N)=1.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 27, 2009, 04:42:20 pm
I don't understand. I thought if E cannot occur then N would be 1-0.5
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: shinny on August 27, 2009, 04:46:39 pm
I don't understand. I thought if E cannot occur then N would be 1-0.5

How so? The only events available that can happen is E or N. If E cannot occur twice consecutively, and E has already occurred on the first trial, then on the second trial, E cannot occur. If E cannot occur, then the only option left is for N to occur on the second trial, making the probability of N occurring 100%. Can you explain to me how you got 1-0.5 and maybe I could figure out what you don't understand?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: cobby on August 27, 2009, 04:47:19 pm
At each of a series of trials, the probability of the occurence of a certain event is 0.5, except this cannot occur in 2 consecutive trials.

Show that the prob. of it occuring just twice in three trials is 0.25.
ans.
E=event
N=no event

ENE= 0.5*1*0.5= 0.25

My Question: why is N, 1?

I did it this way..

First draw a tree diagram of all the possible events, then rule out all the options that have two consecutive occurrences left

Which should be ENE and NEN

Therefore the probabilities are

(0.5 * 0.5 * 0.5) + (0.5 * 0.5 * 0.5) = 0.25
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 27, 2009, 07:53:12 pm
I don't understand. I thought if E cannot occur then N would be 1-0.5

How so? The only events available that can happen is E or N. If E cannot occur twice consecutively, and E has already occurred on the first trial, then on the second trial, E cannot occur. If E cannot occur, then the only option left is for N to occur on the second trial, making the probability of N occurring 100%. Can you explain to me how you got 1-0.5 and maybe I could figure out what you don't understand?

Yep i understand know shinny, thanks
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 27, 2009, 08:14:46 pm
Katia and Mikki play a game in which a fair six-sided die is thrown 5 times. Katia will recieve $1 from Mikki if there is an odd number sixes, and Mikki will recieve $x from Katia if there is an even number of sixes. Find x for the game to be fair. (count zero as even)

ans. 76 cents
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on August 27, 2009, 08:47:58 pm
first you have to assign which is player is positive, ill take katia as positive
so its 1 and -x

1 = Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5)
-x = Pr(0) + Pr(2) + Pr(4) or you can just do 1-(Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5))

now in order it to be fare mean must equal zero

so Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5) - x(Pr(0) + Pr(2) + Pr(4)) = 0

solve for x

Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 27, 2009, 09:10:12 pm
ok thanks...
A newspaper seller buys papers for 50 cents and sells them for 75 cents, and cannot return
unsold papers.

If the newspaper seller stocks too many papers a loss is incurred. If too few papers are
stocked potential profit is lost because of the excess demand. Let s represent the number
of newspapers stocked, and X the daily demand.

a) If P is the newspaper seller’s profit for a particular stock level s, find and expression
for P in terms of s and X.

ans. 0.75x-0.5s  x<s
       0.5s-0.25x  x>s
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on August 27, 2009, 09:11:15 pm
I remember asking about this question... if my memory serves me correct I think the answers were wrong...
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 28, 2009, 02:52:47 pm
Then what were the actual answers?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 28, 2009, 04:09:20 pm
Why does 0! = 1?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on August 28, 2009, 04:27:27 pm
http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.0factorial.html
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 28, 2009, 05:21:45 pm
In the 2007 Exam 1 Q7) http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/mathematics/cas/pastexams/2007/2007mmCAS1-w.pdf
the assesor's report http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/mathematics/methods/assessreports/2007/mm-mmcas1_assessrep_07.pdf fails to mention that +C is included in antideriving. Does this mean we dont have to put +C in?

Also, in the assesor's report they quote 'The instruction ‘hence’ was often ignored,' I don't see the word hence in the question. Can someone explain.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: hyperblade01 on August 28, 2009, 05:24:53 pm
You'll see the question says

'AN antiderivative' which implies one only. +c kinda makes it general


Badly worded, I'm sure someone else can explain it better


EDIT: 'Use the fact' is the same as 'hence', 'therefore', 'now' etc
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on August 28, 2009, 05:29:49 pm
Yes hyperblade01 is right, remember the subtle difference b/w THE anti derivative and AN anti derivative.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 28, 2009, 05:40:02 pm
Yes hyperblade01 is right, remember the subtle difference b/w THE anti derivative and AN anti derivative.

Interesting. But if I did add C, they can't take off marks, could they?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on August 28, 2009, 05:42:25 pm
depends, they might if they are tight, because AN anti derivative means one, not the general solution.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 28, 2009, 09:04:59 pm
,
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on August 28, 2009, 09:12:30 pm
that is true.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on August 28, 2009, 09:12:40 pm
yes

EDIT: beaten
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 28, 2009, 09:30:11 pm
Are we supposed to know the law of total probability?
Pr(B)= Pr(B|A)\times Pr(A)+ Pr(B|{A}')\times Pr({A}')
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on August 28, 2009, 09:30:48 pm
Are we supposed to know the law of total probability?
Pr(B)= Pr(B|A)\times Pr(A)+ Pr(B|{A}')\times Pr({A}')

yep
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 28, 2009, 09:31:58 pm
Even memorise it?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on August 28, 2009, 09:32:13 pm
Isn't that kinda intuitive that formula?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 28, 2009, 09:39:29 pm
lol. well its not in my intuition. Can you please explain how it is spontaneous to your liking?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: /0 on August 28, 2009, 09:41:13 pm
You can use a tree-diagram to visualise that equation. The pathways ending in B are given by the terms on the RHS.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on August 28, 2009, 09:43:22 pm
refer to diagram
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 28, 2009, 09:49:25 pm
Ok thanks. Wow, Flaming_Arrow, did you prepare those diagrams right now...looks like you live up to ur username
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on August 28, 2009, 09:49:44 pm
Ok thanks. Wow, Flaming_Arrow, did you prepare those diagrams right now...looks like you live up to ur username

ye i did
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 28, 2009, 09:52:09 pm
So that means that Pr(B|A')Pr(A')=Pr(A n B')?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on August 28, 2009, 09:54:22 pm
So that means that Pr(B|A')Pr(A')=Pr(A n B')?

na

Pr(B|A')Pr(A')=Pr(B n A') \ Pr(A') * Pr(A') = Pr(B n A')
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 29, 2009, 12:31:17 pm
Pr(A) = Pr(A|B) Pr(B) + Pr(A|B') Pr(B')

Does Pr(B')=Pr(A)?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 29, 2009, 12:46:52 pm
At a certain school it was found that 35% of the 500 boys and 40% of the 400 girls enjoyed
bushwalking. One student from the school is chosen at random. Let G represent the event
that the student is a girl, and B represent the event that the student enjoys bushwalking.

Find Pr(G)....I dont know how to draw a tree diagram that will have an end branch of B and G
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: kamil9876 on August 29, 2009, 12:52:26 pm
(assuming that only boys and girls go to this school, ie: a third sex doesn't exist)
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: shinny on August 29, 2009, 12:57:08 pm
At a certain school it was found that 35% of the 500 boys and 40% of the 400 girls enjoyed
bushwalking. One student from the school is chosen at random. Let G represent the event
that the student is a girl, and B represent the event that the student enjoys bushwalking.

Find Pr(G)....I dont know how to draw a tree diagram that will have an end branch of B and G

You can ignore B for this question. It's just asking the probability of finding a girl; nothing regarding whether they enjoy bushwalking or not. If there's 500 guys, 400 girls, using simple probability, the chance of choosing a girl is
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 29, 2009, 01:18:37 pm
At a certain school it was found that 35% of the 500 boys and 40% of the 400 girls enjoyed
bushwalking. One student from the school is chosen at random. Let G represent the event
that the student is a girl, and B represent the event that the student enjoys bushwalking.

Find Pr(G)....I dont know how to draw a tree diagram that will have an end branch of B and G

You can ignore B for this question. It's just asking the probability of finding a girl; nothing regarding whether they enjoy bushwalking or not. If there's 500 guys, 400 girls, using simple probability, the chance of choosing a girl is

lol. That was simple. Thanks
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 29, 2009, 01:21:53 pm
Pr(A) = Pr(A|B) Pr(B) + Pr(A|B') Pr(B')

Does Pr(B')=Pr(A)?

Also, Pr(A|B)=Pr(B|A)?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: shinny on August 29, 2009, 01:32:33 pm
Pr(A) = Pr(A|B) Pr(B) + Pr(A|B') Pr(B')


Draw up a Venn diagram and you'll get...

Does Pr(B')=Pr(A)?
No, not in a general case. Venn diagram it and you'll see. Remember that there's things outside of both A and B.
Also, Pr(A|B)=Pr(B|A)?
No. , while

But seriously, just go learn how to start using Venn diagrams and you can derive all of these yourself. You're not learning anything by asking us to prove every single one of these for you, as shown by your continual need to keep asking. Spend some time and learn how to do it yourself. I don't mind helping, but there's no point if you're not getting anything out of it.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on August 29, 2009, 04:05:59 pm
When I mean does Pr(A)= P(B'), I meant it in this situation.
Because isnt this how we get the law of probability? If not, someone please draw another tree diagram.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: shinny on August 29, 2009, 04:15:47 pm
Oh, then yeh it would in a binary case with both events being mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: jaja on September 01, 2009, 08:42:26 pm
first you have to assign which is player is positive, ill take katia as positive
so its 1 and -x

1 = Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5)
-x = Pr(0) + Pr(2) + Pr(4) or you can just do 1-(Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5))

now in order it to be fare mean must equal zero

so Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5) - x(Pr(0) + Pr(2) + Pr(4)) = 0

solve for x


i know it has been a long time but i forgot to ask...why does one have a negative value'?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on September 01, 2009, 09:17:29 pm
first you have to assign which is player is positive, ill take katia as positive
so its 1 and -x

1 = Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5)
-x = Pr(0) + Pr(2) + Pr(4) or you can just do 1-(Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5))

now in order it to be fare mean must equal zero

so Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5) - x(Pr(0) + Pr(2) + Pr(4)) = 0

solve for x


i know it has been a long time but i forgot to ask...why does one have a negative value'?

because its in terms of the players perspective, that is when one player loses money when another wins
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 01, 2009, 10:16:33 pm
first you have to assign which is player is positive, ill take katia as positive
so its 1 and -x

1 = Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5)
-x = Pr(0) + Pr(2) + Pr(4) or you can just do 1-(Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5))

now in order it to be fare mean must equal zero

so Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5) - x(Pr(0) + Pr(2) + Pr(4)) = 0

solve for x


i know it has been a long time but i forgot to ask...why does one have a negative value'?

because its in terms of the players perspective, that is when one player loses money when another wins

I dont get it either! Please explain further!
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on September 01, 2009, 10:29:50 pm
first you have to assign which is player is positive, ill take katia as positive
so its 1 and -x

1 = Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5)
-x = Pr(0) + Pr(2) + Pr(4) or you can just do 1-(Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5))

now in order it to be fare mean must equal zero

so Pr(1) + Pr(3) + Pr(5) - x(Pr(0) + Pr(2) + Pr(4)) = 0

solve for x


i know it has been a long time but i forgot to ask...why does one have a negative value'?

because its in terms of the players perspective, that is when one player loses money when another wins

I dont get it either! Please explain further!

ok just say i was playing a game with a friend where i win $1 if if its heads and he wins $1 if its tails, if he wins the game, i lose the the game i lose $1, which means -1
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 01, 2009, 10:33:38 pm
Much better thanks. can someone help me out with this question. I teacher is terrible and cant answer it. PLEASE HELP.

A newspaper seller buys papers for 50 cents and sells them for 75 cents, and cannot return
unsold papers.

If the newspaper seller stocks too many papers a loss is incurred. If too few papers are
stocked potential profit is lost because of the excess demand. Let s represent the number
of newspapers stocked, and X the daily demand.

a) If P is the newspaper seller’s profit for a particular stock level s, find and expression
for P in terms of s and X.

ans. 0.75x-0.5s  x<s
       0.5s-0.25x  x>s
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on September 02, 2009, 07:12:49 pm
I remember asking about this question... if my memory serves me correct I think the answers were wrong...
Ok I've confirmed the book having the wrong answers.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 02, 2009, 08:21:25 pm
but what are the right answers?...should i just avoid the question?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on September 04, 2009, 11:08:37 pm
integrate
x/2√x . = ( x ) ( 2 x ^ -1/2 )
              = [( x^2 )/2] x[( 2 x ^1/2 )/ .5]
              = ???

a bit rusty. this question is taken from essetials 16C
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: d0minicz on September 04, 2009, 11:15:32 pm
If its
=
=
=
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on September 04, 2009, 11:24:44 pm
why did x^1/2 move to the top. i know x^1/2 = squareroot x.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Damo17 on September 04, 2009, 11:33:48 pm
why did x^1/2 move to the top. i know x^1/2 = squareroot x.

Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 06, 2009, 04:16:23 pm

Say that the probability of something being accepted it 0.86 and prob of  another thing being accepted is 0.77. They are not dependent.

To find the probability that they are both rejected, do we do this
(1-0.86)*(1-0.77) or this 1-(0.86*0.77)?  The latter is correct, but why not the former?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on September 06, 2009, 04:17:40 pm

Say that the probability of something being accepted it 0.86 and prob of  another thing being accepted is 0.77. They are not dependent.

To find the probability that they are both rejected, do we do this
(1-0.86)*(1-0.77) or this 1-(0.86*0.77)?  The latter is correct, but why not the former?

(1-0.86)*(1-0.77)
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 06, 2009, 04:26:33 pm

Say that the probability of something being accepted it 0.86 and prob of  another thing being accepted is 0.77. They are not dependent.

To find the probability that they are both rejected, do we do this
(1-0.86)*(1-0.77) or this 1-(0.86*0.77)?  The latter is correct, but why not the former?

(1-0.86)*(1-0.77)

?????
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: /0 on September 06, 2009, 04:29:54 pm
Flaming Arrow is right

0.86*0.77 is the probability that both are accepted, so 1-(0.86*0.77) is the probability that NOT both of them are accepted, i.e. AT LEAST one is rejected.

(1-0.86)(1-0.77) is the probability that both are rejected.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: shinny on September 06, 2009, 04:31:17 pm

Say that the probability of something being accepted it 0.86 and prob of  another thing being accepted is 0.77. They are not dependent.

To find the probability that they are both rejected, do we do this
(1-0.86)*(1-0.77) or this 1-(0.86*0.77)?  The latter is correct, but why not the former?

The first one represents the probability that both are rejected while the second represents the probability that not both are accepted. The difference is, the second one includes the cases where one is accepted, and the other not, whereas the first is specifically finding the probability of both being rejected.

EDIT: /0 beat me to it ]:
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 12, 2009, 04:02:14 pm
The length of an engine part must be between 4.81 and 5.20 cm. In mass production it is found that 0.8% are too short and 3% too long. Assume it is normally distributed!

Each part costs $4 to produce; those that turn out too long are shortened at an extra cost of $2 and those that turn out to be too short have to be rejected. Find the exprected total cost of producing 100 parts that meet the requirements.

I did this: 96.2*4+0.03*4+0.008*6= 401.6....but the answers say 409.28
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: kamil9876 on September 12, 2009, 04:46:53 pm
you worked out something different. I think you tried to work out the expected cost if we pick 100 parts and do whatever it is we are supposed to do with them.

The question is different, it wants how much you have to pay to be expected 100 GOOD parts. Let's say we need X parts in order to be expected to get 100 GOOD parts. Out of those X parts we expect of them to be NOT too short and hence have the potential to be GOOD parts. Setting #goodparts=100 we get:



Hence we will pay 4X for the production and 2*0.03X for the shortening since 3% of them are too long.

That means altogether we pay"

4X+0.06X=4.06X=409.27$
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 12, 2009, 08:37:45 pm
I never thought of it that way, thanks again Kamil
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 13, 2009, 08:16:47 am
How do you get this from this:  ?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Mao on September 13, 2009, 08:55:47 am


It's something I picked up in specialist to rationalize surds:
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 13, 2009, 08:07:59 pm
Thank you
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: kamil9876 on September 13, 2009, 08:33:10 pm
no it shouldn't.

Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on September 13, 2009, 10:16:49 pm
Essentials Text Book. !
CH 17A . Q4c) ii].

Quesiton is . f(x) = [1/5√2pie]e^[(1/2)((x+4)/5)^2]

Find E(X^2) .
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: /0 on September 13, 2009, 10:27:02 pm
Do you mean ?

Then

However your calculator will probably have a hard time integrating this.

Instead note that the normal distribution is

So we have and

So now we can say:



Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on September 13, 2009, 10:29:10 pm
Or just use the NormalCDF if this was MC Q.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on September 13, 2009, 10:35:25 pm
THANK YOU TO YOU BOTH ^_^. got a tad confused there. ;) .
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: /0 on September 13, 2009, 10:39:07 pm
Or just use the NormalCDF if this was MC Q.

How would you use normCDF?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Gloamglozer on September 14, 2009, 06:21:47 pm
Or just use the NormalCDF if this was MC Q.

How would you use normCDF?

When it is a normal distribution and you need to add in a range of values.

EDIT:  Actually, come to think of it, we never use normpdf, do we?  So aren't we supposed to use normcdf if it a normal distribution?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: /0 on September 14, 2009, 06:49:23 pm
Or just use the NormalCDF if this was MC Q.

How would you use normCDF?

When it is a normal distribution and you need to add in a range of values.


Yes but can you find expected values somehow?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on September 14, 2009, 06:52:25 pm
Or just use the NormalCDF if this was MC Q.

How would you use normCDF?

When it is a normal distribution and you need to add in a range of values.

EDIT:  Actually, come to think of it, we never use normpdf, do we?  So aren't we supposed to use normcdf if it a normal distribution?
Yeah normPDF gives the height of the density function. CDF gives the probability.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Gloamglozer on September 15, 2009, 07:23:25 pm
Or just use the NormalCDF if this was MC Q.

How would you use normCDF?

When it is a normal distribution and you need to add in a range of values.

EDIT:  Actually, come to think of it, we never use normpdf, do we?  So aren't we supposed to use normcdf if it a normal distribution?
Yeah normPDF gives the height of the density function. CDF gives the probability.

When do we need to find the height of a density function?  That's just the mode, right?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on September 15, 2009, 09:00:48 pm
Or just use the NormalCDF if this was MC Q.

How would you use normCDF?

When it is a normal distribution and you need to add in a range of values.

EDIT:  Actually, come to think of it, we never use normpdf, do we?  So aren't we supposed to use normcdf if it a normal distribution?
Yeah normPDF gives the height of the density function. CDF gives the probability.

When do we need to find the height of a density function?  That's just the mode, right?
Yeah the mode is the X value that produces the height, not the actual height. Remember that XD
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Gloamglozer on September 16, 2009, 04:38:26 pm
Thanks TT.  You gun.  :D
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 27, 2009, 09:59:30 pm
How do you derive f(g(x^2)), using the simplest method?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on September 27, 2009, 10:06:45 pm
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 27, 2009, 10:09:03 pm
Which rules did you use?
I can do it but I have to use the chain rule twice, first to derive g(x^2) then the whole thing
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on September 27, 2009, 10:09:40 pm
Extended chain rule.

http://web.mit.edu/wwmath/calculus/differentiation/chain.html
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 27, 2009, 10:25:36 pm
Is this for spesh?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on September 27, 2009, 10:26:09 pm
No.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 27, 2009, 10:28:23 pm
Is it in the Essentials methods text?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on September 27, 2009, 10:28:52 pm
For chain rule - yes.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: QuantumJG on September 27, 2009, 10:37:42 pm
Why does 0! = 1?

Factorial (n!) is defined as the continued multiplication of 1...n (I.e. n! = 1*2*3*4*...*(n-2)*(n-1)*n, where n>0.

0! = 1, since, the product of no numbers is defined as equalling 1.

The only thing you need to know in maths methods is that 0! = 1. Even if that is required?

I hope in university I'll see how this is actually proved.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: kamil9876 on September 27, 2009, 10:48:42 pm
True, it's a convention so that things work nicely. As Quantum pointed out it's the product of no numbers and this can be a useful concept in certain problems (similairly like x^0=1 for all x besides 0). Say for example I have the number 10, and i want to multiply it by the first 3 consecutive numbers, I get 10*1*2*3. If i want to multiply it by the first n consecutive numbers I get 10*n!. But if i want to multiply it by no numbers(0 numbers) the number won't change, still be 10, hence it has the same affect as multiplying by 1. Also, it makes the binomial formula work well and things like that since there are is only one way of choosing nothing( similairly because there is only one way of choosing what not to choose in order to choose nothing).
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ryley on September 27, 2009, 11:06:14 pm
If you want a more formal definition, this is way I was taught it (no, the following is not in methods).

(http://i33.tinypic.com/wbew5k.jpg)
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 29, 2009, 10:11:02 pm


Would this transformation be a dilation from the x or y axis.
Cos' when the graph is transformed it it 4/x
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on September 29, 2009, 10:16:03 pm
dilation of factor 4 from the y axis
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 30, 2009, 12:42:00 am
Why not from the x-axis? It is dilated by 4 hence new equation 4/x
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on September 30, 2009, 12:47:56 am


Would this transformation be a dilation from the x or y axis.
Cos' when the graph is transformed it it 4/x
Let be the coordinates of the transformed graph.





Thus the graph of has gone to



and

Thus is mapped onto

So this is a dilation of factor 4 from the y axis.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: kamil9876 on September 30, 2009, 12:50:21 am


Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 30, 2009, 08:52:56 am
Then why does this work out also?












Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: kamil9876 on September 30, 2009, 12:27:47 pm
Note: The possible tranformations from one function to another is not unique.

e.g:

y=x^2 to y=4x^2

could be seen as dilating 4 from x axis. However by expressing the second function as y=(2x)^2 you get dilation by factor of 1/2 from y axis. Different transformations that yield same result.

A more simple and intuitive example:

y=x to y=(x+2)  could also be seen as y=x to (y-2)=x.  This means that Moving the line y=x 2 units left has the same affect as moving the line y=x 2 units up(draw this to see yourself). Hence different transformations can give same result.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 30, 2009, 05:01:48 pm
So, for my question, can the answer be both dilation from the x and y axis?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: kamil9876 on September 30, 2009, 08:01:19 pm
yep.



a=4 is your case.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 30, 2009, 10:50:02 pm
The picture below shows two graphs. I started of with f'(x) and from that I needed to draw f(x). I understood where the turning points went, but how do I determine its y intercept?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: m@tty on September 30, 2009, 10:59:25 pm
You can't tell the intercepts, with the gradient function only. Thus the indefinite '+c', when integrating.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on September 30, 2009, 11:22:58 pm
True, but how do I know that the y int of f(x) will be postive and not negative
There must be some sort of rule to draw these graphs
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 01, 2009, 04:23:46 pm
True, but how do I know that the y int of f(x) will be postive and not negative
There must be some sort of rule to draw these graphs
You won't know because the +c is vertical translation.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 03, 2009, 04:18:25 pm
Why don't I round off when finding the mean of people (click below)
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 04, 2009, 11:42:56 am
MC Question. Suppose that weights of males at a health club are normally distributed. If 70% of the males weight more than 90KG, 10% weight more than 120kg, then the mean and the SD of weight in this club are equal to:

A) U = 100.4 . sd = 18.3
B) U = 111.3 . sd = 16.6
C) U = 69.2   . sd = 39.6
D) U = 110.8 . sd = 39.6
E) U = 98.7  . sd = 16.6
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 04, 2009, 03:54:10 pm
Let X be the random variable for the weight and Z as the standard normal variable.

Let = s.d and = mean

Pr(X > 90) = 0.7

Pr(X > 120) = 0.1

Inverse normal of 0.7 = -0.5244

Inverse normal of 0.1 = 1.28155

Thus



Solve simultaneously.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 04, 2009, 06:19:34 pm
What about my question :(
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 04, 2009, 06:22:42 pm
What about my question :(
Expected value is never to be rounded. It's the 'expected' value.

It's kind of like finding the average, say you have heaps of numbers eg, 1, 4, 7, 12, 15 and you want to find the average of those, the number you get will probably not be one of those numbers, but you still take it as the "average" that is similar to expected value, the value you "expect" doesn't have to make sense with the situation.

EDIT: sailor mars too fast =(
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 04, 2009, 06:25:10 pm
What about my question :(
Expected value is never to be rounded. It's the 'expected' value.

It's kind of like finding the average, say you have heaps of numbers eg, 1, 4, 7, 12, 15 and you want to find the average of those, the number you get will probably not be one of those numbers, but you still take it as the "average" that is similar to expected value, the value you "expect" doesn't have to make sense with the situation.

EDIT: sailor mars too fast =(

thanks sailor moon!
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: VeryCrazyEdu. on October 04, 2009, 06:34:29 pm
Let X be the random variable for the weight and Z as the standard normal variable.

Let = s.d and = mean

Pr(X > 90) = 0.7

When using inverses you have to make sure all the probabilities are Pr(X<__) otherwise it won't work. The inverse always measures the area from the left. so you should inverse Pr(X<90)=.3 etc.

i dunno if this is what you meant but hope i helped :)

Pr(X > 120) = 0.1

Inverse normal of 0.7 = -0.5244

Inverse normal of 0.1 = 1.28155

Thus



Solve simultaneously.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: VeryCrazyEdu. on October 04, 2009, 06:36:35 pm
lol sorry my reply didn't come up! haha

you have to make sure that all probabilities are in the form Pr(X<__) because inverse measures the area from the left.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 04, 2009, 06:39:36 pm
lol sorry my reply didn't come up! haha

you have to make sure that all probabilities are in the form Pr(X<__) because inverse measures the area from the left.
Actually don't, from the calc it is always the upper right bound, so just take opposite sign of the answer from the calc because it's symmetrical about 0.

Forgot to mention: only use symmetrical properties if it's the normal standard you are dealing with, if it is just normal distribution, you gonna have to do some arithmetic around the mean.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: VeryCrazyEdu. on October 04, 2009, 06:43:41 pm
oh really? wow thanks for that! saves me some time.. i'm afraid then i probably can't help you! im not very good with latex :(
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: jaja on October 04, 2009, 10:22:27 pm
Insight 2008, Mc Q3)......

"the number of solutions to the equation (X^2 - a) (x^3 - b^3) (X + c)=0  where a,b,c is an element of R+....

the ans is 4.. however why????

when solving for x wouldn't  X = plus or minus square root of a??? wouldn't we ignore the - since "a in an element of R+??? this goes the same for when X = -c
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 04, 2009, 10:25:39 pm
Insight 2008, Mc Q3)......

"the number of solutions to the equation (X^2 - a) (x^3 - b^3) (X + c)=0  where a,b,c is an element of R+....

the ans is 4.. however why????

when solving for x wouldn't  X = plus or minus square root of a??? wouldn't we ignore the - since "a in an element of R+??? this goes the same for when X = -c
would have 2 solutions.

which would have 1 solution.

would have 1 solution

Total number of solutions: 4
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 04, 2009, 10:54:17 pm
bah. =S . need help with this question, one of the ones i got wrong in my prac exams.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 04, 2009, 10:59:24 pm
You just try to find no?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 04, 2009, 11:05:19 pm
yeah, but not sure where i went wrong, need someone to diff it so i can compare lol .
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 04, 2009, 11:09:46 pm
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 04, 2009, 11:28:37 pm
ty ty
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: jaja on October 04, 2009, 11:37:36 pm
Insight 2008, Mc Q3)......

"the number of solutions to the equation (X^2 - a) (x^3 - b^3) (X + c)=0  where a,b,c is an element of R+....

the ans is 4.. however why????

when solving for x wouldn't  X = plus or minus square root of a??? wouldn't we ignore the - since "a in an element of R+??? this goes the same for when X = -c
would have 2 solutions.

which would have 1 solution.

would have 1 solution

Total number of solutions: 4


i get that part.. but the question states "where a,b,c are elements of R+.... All pOSITIVE REAl NUMBERS......


Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Mao on October 04, 2009, 11:46:37 pm
a, b, c are all positive real numbers, but that does not place any restrictions on the roots (i.e. x can still be anything)

Hence, there are 4 roots as shown by TT.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: jaja on October 05, 2009, 09:18:59 pm
ahh thx.. got it now!
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: jaja on October 05, 2009, 09:36:35 pm
2008 Insight exam short question Q2e?? anyone???.. also Q 2f

also in VCCA sample exam 1, 2006; Q2a... when it asks to differentiate 3x^4 (times) tan(x)........would we lose marks if we just left it like.................3x^3 (4tanx + 3x/(cosx)^2)

6b)....find Pr (X<0.5)... since its a probability density function when finding the answer, can the answer be  in units square, since its the area????

Q8c) if question states find "an- anti- derivative" does that mean C can be any value????
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TonyHem on October 05, 2009, 11:35:25 pm
?
Q8c) if question states find "an- anti- derivative" does that mean C can be any value????
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,17530.0.html

and for the derivative question, you made a mistake but that form is fine unless you mean whether you have to fully simplify - which is most likely unless its like a 1 mark q.


Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: dcc on October 05, 2009, 11:45:00 pm
6b)....find Pr (X<0.5)... since its a probability density function when finding the answer, can the answer be  in units square, since its the area????

I don't have the question your asking, but if it's asking for a probability, it just means a unitless number in between 0 and 1 (inclusive).  While the concept of 'area under the curve' is useful for understanding some of the properties of integrals, it doesn't always work the other way (i.e. an integral isn't necessarily an area) :P
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: jaja on October 06, 2009, 12:49:37 am
ahhh got it, thx mate!
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: jaja on October 06, 2009, 01:09:16 am


2007 VCCA exam 1........Q11)... can i just leave than answer as (0.4 * 0.8) + (0.6 * 0.6)... or would i need to multiply and then add the decimals??? if i
just leave it like that would i still get the full 2 marks???

Q8b)... how do you get 7/4.. .didn't understand VCCA's answer
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TonyHem on October 06, 2009, 01:43:03 am
Multiply it out
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 07, 2009, 11:08:31 am
For this question, if I just wrote: cos^-1(y), y cannot take values greater than 1, would this suffice?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 07, 2009, 11:20:19 am
Also, do they mean a<0 in this question or am I just drunk?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on October 07, 2009, 01:41:54 pm
For this question, if I just wrote: cos^-1(y), y cannot take values greater than 1, would this suffice?

when therefore the asympotote
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on October 07, 2009, 01:42:30 pm
Also, do they mean a<0 in this question or am I just drunk?

yes a<0
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 09, 2009, 09:27:18 pm
quick question: if question says dilate along y axis, does that mean the x values change or the y values?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: kurrymuncher on October 09, 2009, 09:28:26 pm
quick question: if question says dilate from y axis, does that mean the x values change or the y values?

X values
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 09, 2009, 09:31:55 pm
srry, I meant 'along'
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: kurrymuncher on October 09, 2009, 09:32:27 pm
then the Y values will change
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 09, 2009, 09:36:32 pm
Then is there a mistake in the insight exam 1 2006 Q2)c)...please check
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: kurrymuncher on October 09, 2009, 09:39:10 pm
Then is there a mistake in the insight exam 1 2006 Q2)c)...please check

lols maybe Im just wrong, I had too many trial exams in the past three days  :buck2:

wait for TT
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 09, 2009, 10:01:24 pm
srry, I meant 'along'
Along y axis just means dilate FROM the x axis, so the y values will change. kurrymuncher is right :) pr0 pr0
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 09, 2009, 10:27:04 pm
Can
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 09, 2009, 10:32:42 pm
Assuming [A reason for the assumption is 1. A lack of information 2. Working backwards from answer]

Dilation factor of along y axis means from x axis.













Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 09, 2009, 10:36:24 pm
In orther words, the answer given is wrong?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 09, 2009, 11:03:44 pm
In orther words, the answer given is wrong?
Yeah.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 12, 2009, 01:06:27 am
In orther words, the answer given is wrong?
Yeah.

phew. just did it lol. thought i got it wrong as well. didnt do too well on this prac exam. 75% :S .
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 12, 2009, 01:11:59 am
In orther words, the answer given is wrong?
Yeah.

phew. just did it lol. thought i got it wrong as well. didnt do too well on this prac exam. 75% :S .
I'm sure you will improve, just do more exams :P

Good luck :)
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 12, 2009, 08:45:10 pm
TSFX sent this, and they don't mention how to do it correctly to lure us to their lectures...can someone explain
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 13, 2009, 04:22:25 pm
TSFX sent this, and they don't mention how to do it correctly to lure us to their lectures...can someone explain

Went to their lectures on the holidays and my lecturer didn't mention it.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 13, 2009, 04:32:23 pm
Does anyone know the difference between solve and nSolve?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 13, 2009, 04:42:37 pm
nSolve will just give you real solutions so in questions where you want only real answers, then the calculator may be faster.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: GerrySly on October 13, 2009, 04:44:13 pm
Does anyone know the difference between solve and nSolve?
nSolve gives numeric answers and solve gives exact answers. I think nSolve is faster being it doesn't have to rationalise or anything like that
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 13, 2009, 04:48:39 pm
So is that why when I type in solve(invNorm(x,8,2)=9,x)|x>0, I don't get a solution cos' its exact value would be a huge fraction? Also, with nSolve do I always have to specify a domain. Moreover, does the n in nSolve stand for numeric?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 13, 2009, 05:19:48 pm
Does ANY1 know how to move the cursor in the Ti-nspire calc to the start of a number in the entry line....eg. 1234| < how do I move | to the front without clicking entry pad 4 times?

I've spent so long trying to figure this out
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 13, 2009, 05:22:54 pm
I don't use Ti-nspire but it may be the same.

I use 2ND + <- for TI-83
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 13, 2009, 05:49:27 pm
 :-\ it doesnt work, thanks anyway
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: jaja on October 14, 2009, 07:19:17 pm
I need help
If a panel of two people is selected at random from the population, 60% of whom are aged 25 years or less, find:
the probability that the panel contains the same number of people aged 25 years or less and people aged over 25 years

Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: bigtick on October 14, 2009, 08:25:45 pm
0.6x0.4+0.4x0.6=0.48
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: khalil on October 15, 2009, 09:33:07 am
Q) 3)a) please...
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 18, 2009, 09:26:05 pm
heres a few brain teasers that i failed

Question 19
The probability of Kimmy getting a maths question correct in a test is 0.24. What is the fewest number of questions the maths teacher should set to ensure that the probability of Kimmy getting at least two questions correct is more than 0.95?
A. 18
B. 17
C. 16
D. 15
E. 14


Question 2
Which of the following is the definition of an odd function?
A. f(-x) = - f(x)
B. f(x) = f(-x)
C. f(x) = xn, where n is odd
D. f(x) = - f(0)
E.  f(x) = -x


Question 14
The remainder when the function f(x) = x5 - 4x4 + 3x3 + 2x + 1 is multiplied by            is:
A.  0
B.  9
C. 24
D. -3
E. -32


Question 15
2000 metres up in the air, a plane is flying horizontally at a constant speed. At a particularly point in time, the angle is 30◦ and decreasing, and the speed of the aeroplane is 450 km/h. How quickly is the angle decreasing at this point?
A. – 0.013 degrees per hour
B. 0.23 degrees per hour
C. -0.23 degrees per hour
D. 0.11 degrees per hour
E. 0.0140 degrees per hour

Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 18, 2009, 09:27:58 pm
lol is that from the Medtutor exam?

Anyway

Q2. A, the definition of a odd function is that a reflection in the x axis is the same as a reflection in the y axis.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 18, 2009, 10:17:02 pm
lol is that from the Medtutor exam?

Anyway

Q2. A, the definition of a odd function is that a reflection in the x axis is the same as a reflection in the y axis.

yup. i kinda dislike this exam for some reason. maybe i screwed up a lot of the questions LOL .
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TonyHem on October 19, 2009, 12:47:09 am
for 19)Probability of success = 0.24
N = unknown
X = at least 2

1 - binomCDF(n,0.24,1) - you can just do trial and error here.
or
1- nc0(0.24)^(0)*(0.76)^n + nc1(0.24)(0.76)^(n-1) > 0.95
1 - (0.76^(n) + n(0.24)(0.76)^(n-1) > 0.95

0.76^(n) + 0.24n(0.76)^(n-1) < 0.05 or <-- this may be easier

I dunno how to actually "solve it" properly :/
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 25, 2009, 12:45:20 pm
TSFX.

tech free 09

sketch the graph wit equation f(x) = -(x-4)(x+2)^2(1-x)^5 labelling the coordinates of the axes intercepts.

how the f*** would i sketch that without a calc ?
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on October 25, 2009, 12:51:06 pm
TSFX.

tech free 09

sketch the graph wit equation f(x) = -(x-4)(x+2)^2(1-x)^5 labelling the coordinates of the axes intercepts.

how the f*** would i sketch that without a calc ?

well its in factor form so just sketch the interceps and sub in random values of x(0,1,-1) etc to sektch it
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TrueTears on October 25, 2009, 03:01:34 pm






Looking at the highest power of x which is x^8, it is an even power so it will look like the "even" power graphs.

You will have a x axis intercept at x = 4 and x = -2 and one at x = 1

However lets take a look at the furthest to the right x intercept. Since f(x) is "positive" that means it comes down from the positive half of the y axis. So it comes down from the first quadrant going into the fourth.

At , since it's to the power of 5, it will look similar to as if it is to the power of 3. So it looks like a cubic graph.

Then at it just touches the x axis since it's to the power of 2.
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 29, 2009, 10:25:10 pm
just a general question

say e^x = x

for my next line do i need to put

loge (e^x) = loge(x)

or can i just put

x = loge(x)

ty
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: /0 on October 29, 2009, 10:29:10 pm
you can skip to x = loge(x)
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 29, 2009, 10:40:04 pm
sweet. was curious. cause i do all my prac exams on like 2 sheets. like 2 pages per a piece of paper. be good if i could skip a line ^^
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 29, 2009, 10:43:01 pm
wait one more

say the q was

0=4cos(pie/x)-2

can i just write

1/2=cos(pie/x) for the next line

methods might actually be fun for me now LOL
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TonyHem on October 29, 2009, 11:01:26 pm
yeah you can just write 1/2 = cos(pi/x)

edit: no sorry, you can't write pie or pi, you must write

hehe
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 29, 2009, 11:10:05 pm
lol nah ima be cool and write pie.  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 29, 2009, 11:18:29 pm
finally an exam where i only screwed up 1 Q LOL ^^

heres the question cause i dont understand the theory

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3295/mav08.jpg)

part b

u know when it says f(2x) which i misread has 2(f(X))

if it was f(2x) it would be
2cos[2(pie/x)]-1

if it was 2(f(x)) it would be
2[2cos(pie/x)-1]

right. hence it explains my earlier question lol ==' .
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TonyHem on October 29, 2009, 11:27:31 pm
divide? :S
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 29, 2009, 11:32:22 pm
nono. i meant to i put the 2inside the bracket when it says f(2(x))
Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: TonyHem on October 29, 2009, 11:36:47 pm


part b
if it was f(2x) it would be
2cos[2(pie/x)]-1 ( I mean here, you have pi/x, but the equation is , so wouldn't changing x for 2x just give you )

if it was 2(f(x)) it would be
2[2cos(pie/x)-1]

Title: Re: My thread of questions
Post by: ngRISING on October 29, 2009, 11:54:24 pm
right right. my typo. makes sense. ty ^^