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Title: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Aaron on July 31, 2016, 04:53:37 pm
NOTE: This thread is an archive of questions/discussion from mid-2016 to early December, 2016. Please see the last post in this thread for the new link to post your post-ATAR queries. Thanks, Aaron.

VTAC Course Applications 2016 - Ask your questions here!

VTAC Course Applications open from TOMORROW (1st of August, 2016)

By now you would have (or are going to sometime in the next few weeks) sat down with the designated career advisor(s) at your school to discuss potential courses for next year. We're lucky on ATARNotes that we've got a whole bunch of university students that have been in the exact same position as you are in right now (course preferences), who can answer all of your questions.

This thread serves as a Q&A thread for current Year 12 students who may need that extra bit of help figuring out the ins and outs of the VTAC Process. Please ask us if you have questions, it's important that you get it right (so you end up in the correct course!)

Helpful Links to get you started:

Remember:
- If you're a citizen or permanent resident, you should be choosing course preferences that have course codes ending in a 1. This means you are applying for a CSP (Commonwealth Supported Place), and as a result, you'll be entitled to defer your student contribution via the HECS-HELP system.
- Preferences are not final and you'll be able to change them even after you've received your ATAR. Check the VTAC Key Dates for change of preference periods.
- Choose the course(s) that you want to get into in order of desire, rather than probability. See Preference system explained
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: SONE0413 on August 10, 2016, 05:41:19 pm
For the evidence do i just type a paragraph of how im first child to go to uni in my fam and then how its annoying and then they will consider it? xoxo guys
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Aaron on August 10, 2016, 05:43:14 pm
For the evidence do i just type a paragraph of how im first child to go to uni in my fam and then how its annoying and then they will consider it? xoxo guys

Depends on the category you're applying for. You'll have to be a bit more convincing than that :P

Some more info for you to look at: http://www.vtac.edu.au/who/seas.html
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: SONE0413 on August 10, 2016, 05:43:32 pm
So i wanna go overseas for holidays
my career teacher said some unis u can apply online sum u needa be in person
anyone know if monash courses i can apply online? like arts and science?
xoxo
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: SONE0413 on August 10, 2016, 05:45:47 pm
Depends on the category you're applying for. You'll have to be a bit more convincing than that :P

Some more info for you to look at: http://www.vtac.edu.au/who/seas.html

how bout ill type an emotional af paragraph is that more convincing?? xoxo aaron
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Aaron on August 10, 2016, 05:47:24 pm
So i wanna go overseas for holidays
my career teacher said some unis u can apply online sum u needa be in person
anyone know if monash courses i can apply online? like arts and science?
xoxo

You apply for them through VTAC.

By the way, there is a thread here dedicated to course preferences and so on :) I've merged your topics with this one so we can keep the board clean :)
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: SONE0413 on August 10, 2016, 05:47:40 pm
Which uni courses generally require interview?
Like medicine? Am I right?

N it would say at the course info webpage on the uni website if interview is required or not right??! Like if i go to the arts webpage n if the additional requirement doesnt indicate interview then there isnt one needed right? xoxo
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: SONE0413 on August 10, 2016, 05:50:38 pm
You apply for them through VTAC.

By the way, there is a thread here dedicated to course preferences and so on :) I've merged your topics with this one so we can keep the board clean :)
thats okay aaron thx so much ur better than those arrogant so called coordinators at my school theyre useless af
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Maz on August 10, 2016, 06:12:28 pm
Which uni courses generally require interview?
Like medicine? Am I right?

N it would say at the course info webpage on the uni website if interview is required or not right??! Like if i go to the arts webpage n if the additional requirement doesnt indicate interview then there isnt one needed right? xoxo
Hey, the one I definitely know for sure about is medicine
Also, yes they will/should say it, and they will also most likely say how much it is worth as compared to your atar :)
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: grannysmith on August 10, 2016, 06:49:32 pm
Which uni courses generally require interview?
Like medicine? Am I right?

N it would say at the course info webpage on the uni website if interview is required or not right??! Like if i go to the arts webpage n if the additional requirement doesnt indicate interview then there isnt one needed right? xoxo
There are plenty of different degrees that require an interview. Undergraduate medicine typically requires an interview (most notably, Monash), but other degrees such as Physiotherapy (Monash) and even Bachelor of Science Advanced - Global Challenges (again, Monash) also require interviews.

Not too familiar with other universities but like you've correctly stated, the course requirements/information page of any degree should specify whether an interview is required or not.

Hope that helps :)

Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: SONE0413 on August 18, 2016, 06:55:26 pm
Hi if i wanna apply for SEAS first to attend uni in fam, what category would it be? N when it says first in fam does it mean my parents never went to uni n im the first one to go? or does it mean the first child in the fam to go to uni?? XOXO
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Aaron on August 18, 2016, 06:58:59 pm
Hi if i wanna apply for SEAS first to attend uni in fam, what category would it be? N when it says first in fam does it mean my parents never went to uni n im the first one to go? or does it mean the first child in the fam to go to uni?? XOXO

It's under category 1 SONE :) Feel free to have a look at this link, that tells you what unis take these things into account (and more importantly, which ones don't):

http://www.vtac.edu.au/who/seas/categories.html

Judging by this, only Fed Uni will take 'first in family' into consideration as part of SEAS.

Great to hear you'll be the first one to attend (I too was the first in my family to go to university!)
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: SONE0413 on August 18, 2016, 09:51:32 pm
It's under category 1 SONE :) Feel free to have a look at this link, that tells you what unis take these things into account (and more importantly, which ones don't):

http://www.vtac.edu.au/who/seas/categories.html

Judging by this, only Fed Uni will take 'first in family' into consideration as part of SEAS.

Great to hear you'll be the first one to attend (I too was the first in my family to go to university!)

sorry but i dont get it. so how does vtac know im first to attend uni in the fam? my dad went to uni like ages ago so am i still counted for being first in fam to attend uni? xoxo
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on August 19, 2016, 01:33:38 pm
my dad went to uni like ages ago so am i still counted for being first in fam to attend uni? xoxo

I don't think you count as being the "first in fam to attend uni" if your Dad attended uni.
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: cozno97 on August 24, 2016, 06:29:54 pm
Hi! I hope I'm posting this in the right place
I'm in my first year of a bachelors degree and am wanting to do a different bachelor course at a different uni. I called the uni im interested in and they told me that once my current uni gives me my yearly results at the end of the year, I need to submit transcripts to VTAC. Will VTAC accept my transcripts so late into the year? Also, do I need to submit transcripts of my current results of the first semester during the application process?
One last question: I meet the prerequisites for the course Im interested in based on my VCE science unit results completed last year and University English results from this year. Does VTAC send both my uni results and my VCE results to the prospective uni? thanks
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Aaron on August 24, 2016, 06:43:41 pm
Hi! I hope I'm posting this in the right place
I'm in my first year of a bachelors degree and am wanting to do a different bachelor course at a different uni. I called the uni im interested in and they told me that once my current uni gives me my yearly results at the end of the year, I need to submit transcripts to VTAC. Will VTAC accept my transcripts so late into the year? Also, do I need to submit transcripts of my current results of the first semester during the application process?
One last question: I meet the prerequisites for the course Im interested in based on my VCE science unit results completed last year and University English results from this year. Does VTAC send both my uni results and my VCE results to the prospective uni? thanks

When you register for a VTAC account, you have to enter in past history such as your old school, VCAA student number, current uni details and so on. You authorise VTAC to access and send these details to unis you put in your preference list. I am fairly sure they only take into account uni results unless an ATAR/other details are requested, but they do all that work for you (provided you put in the correct details so they can find it).

You personally won't need to submit transcripts unless VTAC asks for them. I know when I finished my bachelor degree and applied for a masters at a different uni, I didn't need to provide them with any transcripts or anything like that - I just gave them my uni details (student number, institution name, campus).
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: xjiaa on September 07, 2016, 05:54:02 pm
Hello,

I worried that I won't be able to be meet the prerequisite study score required for my course. If I don't, what are my options? Am I still eligible for the course?

Thank you.
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Aaron on September 07, 2016, 06:00:02 pm
Prerequisites are non negotiable. If you don't meet them, you won't get an offer for THAT particular course.

You could do the same course somewhere else and transfer over after one semester.. If you really had to.
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: AngelWings on September 07, 2016, 08:17:33 pm
Prerequisites are non negotiable. If you don't meet them, you won't get an offer for THAT particular course.

You could do the same course somewhere else and transfer over after one semester.. If you really had to.
Just adding on to Aaron's statement here, you can also choose to do a bridging course or do an internal transfer (do a semester in another course at the same institution, get a good enough WAM/ GPA and apply for transfer).
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Litigator on September 07, 2016, 08:50:13 pm
When you register for a VTAC account, you have to enter in past history such as your old school, VCAA student number, current uni details and so on. You authorise VTAC to access and send these details to unis you put in your preference list. I am fairly sure they only take into account uni results unless an ATAR/other details are requested, but they do all that work for you (provided you put in the correct details so they can find it).

You personally won't need to submit transcripts unless VTAC asks for them. I know when I finished my bachelor degree and applied for a masters at a different uni, I didn't need to provide them with any transcripts or anything like that - I just gave them my uni details (student number, institution name, campus).

Yeah not even student number is necessary.

And if someone wants to know if their details have been confirmed; all the details you give about your bachelor degree is a 'claim'. If you check those  claims in 2-3 business days they will appear as 'locked' and if so it means they have been checked and confirmed.
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: xjiaa on September 07, 2016, 08:57:16 pm
Just adding on to Aaron's statement here, you can also choose to do a bridging course or do an internal transfer (do a semester in another course at the same institution, get a good enough WAM/ GPA and apply for transfer).

If I do a bridging course, does that mean I will be doing a different course then transfer into the one I want?

Thank you :)
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: AngelWings on September 14, 2016, 06:41:06 pm
If I do a bridging course, does that mean I will be doing a different course then transfer into the one I want?

Thank you :)

I'm no expert in this area, so take this with a grain of salt, but the bridging courses are similar to your intended course. There are a limited amount of them, so please check up whether this is the case with your desired course (and institution) and what route to take from there.

One example that comes to mind is MIBT/ Deakin College for Deakin. (They're designed so you do all the pre-req content in one year and then transfer into Deakin from MIBT straight to second year. - Or at least, this is according to what I recall.) Other unis have similar versions. 
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: HasibA on September 24, 2016, 05:13:45 pm
hey guys- so im rechecking my Vtac to see if im missing anything, and im kinda confused.
basically, ive submitted a SEAS application, and filed under each respective category that pertains to me- but does this mean i qualify for things like the Monash Guarantee? like i come from an under-represented school, receive financial support from the government etc. and basically meet all the requirements for the Monash Guarantee- but is there a way of knowing if ive been accepted, or is it something i'll find out after course confirmations are out? :) thanks!
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Floatzel98 on September 24, 2016, 10:50:45 pm
hey guys- so im rechecking my Vtac to see if im missing anything, and im kinda confused.
basically, ive submitted a SEAS application, and filed under each respective category that pertains to me- but does this mean i qualify for things like the Monash Guarantee? like i come from an under-represented school, receive financial support from the government etc. and basically meet all the requirements for the Monash Guarantee- but is there a way of knowing if ive been accepted, or is it something i'll find out after course confirmations are out? :) thanks!
The Monash Guarantee is not done through VTAC, Monash itself decides it based on the information you submit through VTAC. So you won't know through VTAC if you are eligible. Monash do send an email about about it though. I remember I got mine about a week before results day, so like the 8th of December, confirming I was eligible for it. If your SEAS application was similar to mine (which it seems based on what you wrote above) you should be fine. If I do remember, I think you have to submit a VTAC Scholarship application as well along with SEAS.
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: HasibA on September 25, 2016, 05:27:04 pm
not sure where to post this:
say you get into your second preference course, and you dont meet the prerequisite for your first preference (say a 25SS in methods)
what is the way you can transfer into the first preference course without meeting the prerequisite? like in terms of transferring? are they those 'bridging courses' people talk about?
eg. you get into RMIT InfoTech, which you meet all the prerq's, but you want to get into Monash Commerce, which needs a 25 in methods/chem, which you may not have- how do you get in? is this process available for midyear transfers/
[sorry if i have been unclear- thanks guys!!]
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: AngelWings on September 26, 2016, 01:28:11 pm
not sure where to post this:
say you get into your second preference course, and you dont meet the prerequisite for your first preference (say a 25SS in methods)
what is the way you can transfer into the first preference course without meeting the prerequisite? like in terms of transferring? are they those 'bridging courses' people talk about?
eg. you get into RMIT InfoTech, which you meet all the prerq's, but you want to get into Monash Commerce, which needs a 25 in methods/chem, which you may not have- how do you get in? is this process available for midyear transfers/
[sorry if i have been unclear- thanks guys!!]

There's really a few options:
1. Go to another uni with all the pre-reqs you can cover* and transfer. (Bear in mind, it's best if you want to graduate faster that you try to stick to the general area you're intending to transfer into, e.g. do Zoology at Deakin to transfer into Science at Monash. Sometimes the units you do at another uni can actually be credited at your intended uni and essentially won't need to do certain units when you're finally in your first preference course.)
2. Do another course with similar areas of interest at your intended uni and do an internal transfer (i.e. transfer within same uni).
3. Do the appropriate bridging course at the intended uni and then transfer into the course after some time.

Please note that you should check whether all these options are available for your intended course/ area. As for midyear transfers for first years, your intended institution will look at your uni grades (GPA and WAM) and ATAR where need be. (They will combine both as factors of consideration.)
Definitely don't take these as the final word, as things are constantly changing and alternate pathways are always appearing/ disappearing. This is just a general overview of the 3 main pathways.   

* I have friends which have done this who've failed to meet the pre-reqs in Year 12 and made up for it by doing their studies elsewhere and transferring in.
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: HasibA on September 27, 2016, 05:56:58 pm
There's really a few options:
1. Go to another uni with all the pre-reqs you can cover* and transfer. (Bear in mind, it's best if you want to graduate faster that you try to stick to the general area you're intending to transfer into, e.g. do Zoology at Deakin to transfer into Science at Monash. Sometimes the units you do at another uni can actually be credited at your intended uni and essentially won't need to do certain units when you're finally in your first preference course.)
2. Do another course with similar areas of interest at your intended uni and do an internal transfer (i.e. transfer within same uni).
3. Do the appropriate bridging course at the intended uni and then transfer into the course after some time.

Please note that you should check whether all these options are available for your intended course/ area. As for midyear transfers for first years, your intended institution will look at your uni grades (GPA and WAM) and ATAR where need be. (They will combine both as factors of consideration.)
Definitely don't take these as the final word, as things are constantly changing and alternate pathways are always appearing/ disappearing. This is just a general overview of the 3 main pathways.   

* I have friends which have done this who've failed to meet the pre-reqs in Year 12 and made up for it by doing their studies elsewhere and transferring in.

hmm i see. thanks for the help.
so lets say i want to do InfoTech at monash, and cover the prereqs, but then want to do a double degree in fiance/InfoTech, but dont have the methods pre-req for it, id have to do a bridging course? or because i got into InfoTech i can do a straight transfer? etc.
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Aaron on September 27, 2016, 06:01:49 pm
hmm i see. thanks for the help.
so lets say i want to do InfoTech at monash, and cover the prereqs, but then want to do a double degree in fiance/InfoTech, but dont have the methods pre-req for it, id have to do a bridging course? or because i got into InfoTech i can do a straight transfer? etc.

You would need to do the equivalent unit of methods at university level to satisfy the prerequisite (fairly sure its MTH1010, someone can confirm). Does the IT degree allow you to choose an elective/free unit? If so, that would be ideal.
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: HasibA on September 27, 2016, 06:15:58 pm
You would need to do the equivalent unit of methods at university level to satisfy the prerequisite (fairly sure its MTH1010, someone can confirm). Does the IT degree allow you to choose an elective/free unit? If so, that would be ideal.
yeah i think the IT degree has an elective/free unit. but in case it didnt, what would my options be? would i be able to do it on a uni break (the methods prereq-thanks!

similarly, what if i didn't get a 25 for english? what would happen then?
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Aaron on September 27, 2016, 06:19:10 pm
yeah i think the IT degree has an elective/free unit. but in case it didnt, what would my options be? would i be able to do it on a uni break (the methods prereq-thanks!

similarly, what if i didn't get a 25 for english? what would happen then?

That unit in particular is only offered in Semester 1 - so you wouldn't be able to. This is something you'd have to contact Monash about because it applies to each university individually (e.g. find out if they accept anything other as the equivalent). That's good you have a free unit - you can fill up that space with MTH1010 and do a transfer mid-year if you really wanted to (provided you pass it).

You could always do an extra unit (e.g. 5 instead of 4 for that semester - but the workload is massive with 4... you really don't want to be in that position to begin with). I'm not familiar with the accepted equivalents - perhaps someone more experienced in this space could reply?
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: HasibA on September 28, 2016, 10:12:15 pm
so preferences are due tomorrow, and i've filed a SEAS application - and it keeps asking for evidence to be photocopied/uploaded, but the only thing that potentially might need evidence would be my parents receiving centrelink benefits, which i've given the CRN for the centrelink thingo [dont know it wel..xD] and given permission for VTAC to confirm it through centrelink etc.
anything else i may potentially need? :O
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on September 30, 2016, 03:51:32 pm
so preferences are due tomorrow, and i've filed a SEAS application - and it keeps asking for evidence to be photocopied/uploaded, but the only thing that potentially might need evidence would be my parents receiving centrelink benefits, which i've given the CRN for the centrelink thingo [dont know it wel..xD] and given permission for VTAC to confirm it through centrelink etc.
anything else i may potentially need? :O

If your parents are the ones receiving the benefits, you can't give the CRN. You have to actually submit a centrelink letter because they can't confirm it otherwise; something about how you need to be the one receiving the benefit for them to be able to confirm it through centrelink. The SEAS deadline is coming up too so you may want to get on that ASAP.

Have you submitted a scholarship application? + Have you checked if you're eligible for any of the other SEAS categories?
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: HasibA on September 30, 2016, 05:19:58 pm
If your parents are the ones receiving the benefits, you can't give the CRN. You have to actually submit a centrelink letter because they can't confirm it otherwise; something about how you need to be the one receiving the benefit for them to be able to confirm it through centrelink. The SEAS deadline is coming up too so you may want to get on that ASAP.

Have you submitted a scholarship application? + Have you checked if you're eligible for any of the other SEAS categories?
what if im the one receiving benefits as well? and yeah i have, but im still really unsure how to provide evidence for the SEAS and scholarships? i'll double check- thanks :)
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Aaron on September 30, 2016, 05:26:34 pm
what if im the one receiving benefits as well? and yeah i have, but im still really unsure how to provide evidence for the SEAS and scholarships? i'll double check- thanks :)

If you personally receive benefits, you should have a separate CRN and centrelink account. In that case, you would enter your own CRN into the provided space. I know when I was receiving Youth Allowance back in Year 12, I had to enter in my CRN and that was it for SEAS financial disadvantage category. I'd double check this to make sure though.

Some info from VTAC which could help you: http://www.vtac.edu.au/who/seas/categories/category3.html
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: knightrider on October 02, 2016, 04:51:57 pm
Do you have to submit  an impact statement and  statement of support when applying for scholarships through VTAC.

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: P.GUAN on October 28, 2016, 05:29:23 pm
When do we know if our SEAS application is successful?
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Aaron on October 28, 2016, 06:51:58 pm
When do we know if our SEAS application is successful?

As far as i'm aware you don't get notified - it gets submitted as part of the course application and the universities consider your eligibility. Meaning it'll all be taken into account and depending on that you will or won't get an offer.
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: knightrider on October 30, 2016, 06:59:40 am
Will we  know if our scholarship application is successful?

Also do we get notification if our access monash application is successful ?

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on October 30, 2016, 08:46:16 am
Will we  know if our scholarship application is successful?

Also do we get notification if our access monash application is successful ?

Thanks  :)

I'd assume you'd know if your scholarship application is successful when you get a scholarship?

Access Monash:

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Applications will be assesed in full after 30 October 2016. If you are successful in moving on to the next stage of the selection process you will be notified via email by 11 November 2016.

Selection interviews will be held from 15 - 25 November 2016.

If you are a new applicant you must be available for an interview during this period.
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: knightrider on October 30, 2016, 09:20:12 am
I'd assume you'd know if your scholarship application is successful when you get a scholarship?

Access Monash:

Thankyou very much HLS  :)
Title: Re: VTAC Course Preferences 2016 - Questions
Post by: Aaron on December 09, 2016, 05:16:19 pm
This thread will now be locked as an alternative thread has been created for the purposes of Post-ATAR course related queries. This thread will remain available to read as it does contain answers to some pretty important information. Please find the new thread here, where you will be able to ask your questions:

Post-ATAR Course Question Thread

If you wish to post a new thread (for whatever reason), you may still do so by visiting: VTAC Discussion

Thanks.