I vote Mildred , the candidate from Old Friends Senior Dog Sanctuary. I think her dogma is the opposite of a catastrophe. She is not a pugilistic candidate, she is very peaceful. Come on guys, embark on the Mildred Ship!That was so cringeworthy, it made me smile. :o
Edit: In all seriousness though, I'd say it'd be very difficult for a third party candidate to win without first solidifying their party as the third party, not a third party.
I'm going to both enjoy and hate the next 24 hours. Bigly.Same. #bigAmericancircus
If Hillary wins Florida, it's all over for Trump. But, it is a bit of a retirement state...I saw a program yesterday that went to several groups for retired people around Florida and took some polls (lawn bowls, bingo, even a knitting group lol), and Trump was an overwhelming winner amongst that demographic. OBVIOUSLY, this is not some reputable poll, but I don't doubt that an older demographic would admire the stability and security "promised" in Trump's campaign.
I hope Hillary wins, I think she's very admirable.
Edit: Polls closing in Floria...
Results are firming for Trump, with the NY Times now giving him a 66% chance of victory. This is from an 80% chance of a Clinton victory when the count started; so momentum is well and truly with Trump.
TL;DR: gg world
Results are firming for Trump, with the NY Times now giving him a 66% chance of victory. This is from an 80% chance of a Clinton victory when the count started; so momentum is well and truly with Trump.
TL;DR: gg world
...this has to be some sort of sick joke.
There is no way an orange xenophobe who thinks he can 'grab her (ANY female) by the pussy' will be the next president of USA. No freaking way.
Yeah it is ridiculous but realistically, we were always left between a rock and a hard place. Although, I'm sure I can say for everyone that we're all looking forward to seeing what he does in his first few days as president. Buckle up for a rollercoaster ride everyone.A rock and a qualifidd presidential candidate, maybe. lol
First, there was the first black president of the US, now Americans need to prepare for the first orange president. yay#orangelivesmatter
A rock and a qualifidd presidential candidate, maybe. lolI agree with that to an extent. Hillary is obviously experienced and she knows how to communicate with others to get what she wants and in that way she is very professional. But at the same time, she's not genuine. I would personally have voted for Hillary due to Trump's ridiculous ideas (past and most likely future) but at the same time, her ulterior motives make me wonder "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't".
I agree with that to an extent. Hillary is obviously experienced and she knows how to communicate with others to get what she wants and in that way she is very professional. But at the same time, she's not genuine. I would personally have voted for Hillary due to Trump's ridiculous ideas (past and most likely future) but at the same time, her ulterior motives make me wonder "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't".
I agree with that to an extent. Hillary is obviously experienced and she knows how to communicate with others to get what she wants and in that way she is very professional. But at the same time, she's not genuine. I would personally have voted for Hillary due to Trump's ridiculous ideas (past and most likely future) but at the same time, her ulterior motives make me wonder "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't".
Are there any major implications of Trump becoming president, especially towards Australia? If not, I'll continue laughing away.
Are there any major implications of Trump becoming president, especially towards Australia? If not, I'll continue laughing away.
Oh yeah, because the man who made billions of dollars ripping people off is more "genuine" when he says that he's going to be the one to battle for American workers and American jobs. The man who, literally, said that he wanted to run for the Republican party because they're "so stupid I could just lie and they'd believe everything I said" is more genuine.I never actually implied Trump is genuine. Believe me I'm not saying one's better than the other. I'm just saying that neither should be the POTUS.
Compare this to the woman who has spent ALL of her life fighting for civil rights. Who has spent all of her life in public life when, frankly, she could be making an absolute shit tonne doing other shit, is the one who's less genuine.
Many. A lot of it is fairly complex stuff and I can't pretend that I really get it all, but basically:
His policies are really anti-free trade. For instance, he wants to end NAFTA (which is a free trade agreement) and also wants to add 40% tarrifs on Chinese products—basically increase the price of every good from China by 40%. This basically reduces the capacity of the businesses with which we do trade to make money. If they make less money, there's less money for them to buy shit from us, then we lose out.
He's also all for nuclear proliferation. He's on the record as saying that more countries should have access to nukes. Don't even need to explain why that's bad.
Anyway, shit explanation, but those are a couple of examples of why Trump is bad from us, aside from the identity politics of it as well. Australians know US presidents well. They get a lot of coverage here. So the things he says are things that will also hit home here. All the racist rhetoric. The anti-women rhetoric, etc. That has an impact here, too.
I never actually implied Trump is genuine. Believe me I'm not saying one's better than the other. I'm just saying that neither should be the POTUS.
pfft, what's he gonna do? Build a wall around me and make the Mexicans pay for it?
Come at me, Donald -.-
Why does everyone seem so upset.
I would've preferred Hilary too just because of what kind of person trump is but either way US was fucked.
I haven't been keeping up with the election a great deal bar today nor have I read through all of this thread but I am a fan of Trump's plan to build a barrier on the Mexican border.
Her policy positions are largely agreeable too. She's for gun laws, pro-choice, in favour of same sex marriage. She's in favour of allowing illegal immigrants, who have lived in and contributed to the US for years, to stay. She's also pro-trade and respected by world leaders all around the world.
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Her policy positions are agreeable to you. The American working class feel very differently and I think the most significant part of this result is just how badly they were underestimated. Clinton is as establishment as they get, up there with Bush and Kennedy and by all accounts the perception of an influential elite costing the average American their opportunities to succeed resonated with the country. Her campaign didn't really fight on that axis and it seems to have been a mistake (calling Trump supporters deplorable was monumentally stupid).
I also disagree that the email scandal was a non-issue, there was plenty of content that fed right into the above concerns about corruption and self-interest, from being given debate questions in advance to inappropriate use of money etc.
Although I'm no supporter of Trump, whenever people bring up Trump's sexual assault allegations, I just think it reeks of hypocrisy- a 5 second google search of "Bill Clinton" highlights this reality...
Although I'm no supporter of Trump, whenever people bring up Trump's sexual assault allegations, I just think it reeks of hypocrisy- a 5 second google search of "Bill Clinton" highlights this reality...
Bill Clinton wasn't running for president?
I'm pretty shocked that the polls got it this wrong, frankly. The minute she had to wait to win Virginia (should have been an easy win), the fact that she's going to lose Florida and the entire Rust Belt, yeah. It's pretty incredible. Points to a major electoral realignment.There was, and still is, a stigma behind being a Trump supporter. Worsened by Clinton's extreme celebrity support, few would be open about being a Trump supporter in fear of being ridiculed or attacked. Predictions and polls did not and could not account for all the hidden Trump supporters who came out of the bushes to vote.
There was, and still is, a stigma behind being a Trump supporter. Worsened by Clinton's extreme celebrity support, few would be open about being a Trump supporter in fear of being ridiculed or attacked. Predictions and polls did not and could not account for all the hidden Trump supporters who came out of the bushes to vote.
There's a couple of other things - there are vocal Trump supporters (the hat-wearing, #MAGA crowd) and I think people though that all Trump voters were like that. In the last few days, Republican holdouts seemed to have gone to Trump in the end (instead of staying home or voting for a third party.)
In the end, it also appears that the so-called 'hidden Hispanic' vote didn't eventuate, or at least not to the levels that Clinton needed to flip states like Florida and Arizona.Agreed.
Her policy positions are agreeable to you. The American working class feel very differently and I think the most significant part of this result is just how badly they were underestimated. Clinton is as establishment as they get, up there with Bush and Kennedy and by all accounts the perception of an influential elite costing the average American their opportunities to succeed resonated with the country. Her campaign didn't really fight on that axis and it seems to have been a mistake (calling Trump supporters deplorable was monumentally stupid).
I also disagree that the email scandal was a non-issue, there was plenty of content that fed right into the above concerns about corruption and self-interest, from being given debate questions in advance to inappropriate use of money etc.
However, the American people clearly haven't been able to remove their image of her as part of the problem she had hoped to address.
One things for sure though - great time to go and spend your hard-earned moolah in America
Last I checked, $1 USD= $1.30 AUD
Go now before the walls up! ;)